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features. Like being able to use video booth effects or actually
change the backdrop on video chats?...you know, the green-
screen effects where it looks like you are standing in front of a
waterfall etc....
Well, I just spent 15 minutes trying to toy around with it and
figure it out. Well, it turns out that you need an intel processor
to use any of those new features. Are you kidding me?? It hasn't
been that long since they upgraded to the new Intel processors
so I can't imaging them leaving out full blown highlighted
leopard features for the millions of people who bought a
computer more than a year and a half ago??
So far, this upgrade has only been mildy worth it...Apple is
starting to worry me with this kind of bogus false advertising. I
mean, first it was the iMovie thing...now this...I wonder what
other features I'll find out I don't get because I don't have an
intel processor? They had all this time and not that much was
even changed other than slowing down my 1.33 GHz laptop.
The dock feature is probably the biggest improvement (which is
minor really since it's only cosmetic).
I guess it's been almost 2 1/2 years so I'm probably due for
another $3000 laptop but it sucks that I have to give this GREAT
17" mint condition laptop to someone who won't be able to be a
part of new features and upgrades. And what about the
millions of other folk and schools who can't switch all of their
networks to Intel processors? They've made it so that unless
you can switch ALL of your computers, there won't be uniformity
on computers that were purchased over 2 years ago...this is not
good.
Basically, my G4 laptop and G5 desktop have become zero
priority by Apple after only 2 years. I wish I had known
this...Thanks for the secrecy Apple! I guess you had to do
something with all those G4,G5 processors!
just ranting and raving...
PPC support.
They've done the same thing with XTools, so the newer versions
of software I use all the time are NOT fully optimised to run on
PPC. I fI had an Intel Mac there wouldn't be an issue, but this IS a
big kick in the teeth for my G4 Powerbook (not even 18 months
old).
I can understand their P.O.V. over this, but it should be a more
gradual shift as there's far too much hardware out there being
used every day by people who aren't ready to buy a new
machine for a good 2 years or more.
The thing is, this software WILL/DOES run on the PPC
architecture. Apple have set up their installers to check your
machine though. If you don't have an Intel Mac, tough luck! Not
a good approach.
There are hacks around to get iMovie '08 to run on a G4, so
there may be something for the new photobooth stuff in iChat -
have a look. ;)
I upgraded on Monday. I did the upgrade on two Intel-based iMacs we have in the house. Both went flawlessly. As suggested, I did an "Archive and Install" for the upgrade. I removed all 3rd Party non-compatible apps before the install, and did a complete backup of my Hard Drive to an External HD. In addition, I backed up documents (photos, movies) that were irreplaceable on to my Dot Mac account.
The install took about 45 minutes on each computer; each booted up with absolutely no problems. Wireless Networking was up and running immediately. User Profiles and Preferences were exactly as they should have been.
The only issue I had was with my Intego Firewall/Spam Filter/Virus suite: the upgrade had erased my Serial Numbers and put these products into "Trial Mode". This happened despite Intego's update of the previous week which was supposed to be Leopard compatible. (I guess this was due to the Golden Master not being released until 10/26...which was news to me!). I entered my Serial Numbers, and the programs were up and running.
As for the OS itself, I'm noticing a slight improvement in speed; Time Machine actually saved my life yesterday; and the Core Audio/Video is noticeably better. There's lots of eye candy here, but a lot under the hood as well; and I'm only touching the surface of what Leopard can do.
I've read all of the negatives and issues this past week, and all I can say is I've had none of them. I can't help but wonder if a lot of the problems were as a result of a straight Upgrade as opposed to an Erase or Archive and Install, or an inordinate amount of 3rd party apps on people's Macs.
In any event, I'm extremely pleased so far. I'm looking forward to any improvements that come along in the future.
had ZERO problems with Leopard. In fact, most of the time I keep
forgetting that I've upgraded at all.
This isn't to say that there aren't quite a few reasons to do so. I will
also say that I'm really glad I did.
For once in my life I'm actually backing up my computer all the time
and not having to worry about. I've even purposely deleted something
and had the fun, what? FUN of restoring the file. When have you ever
hard the word "fun" and "restoring a file" in the same sentence.
Everything else has just worked for me. I'm ok with the 3D dock. I'm
not bothered by the reflections. Note that I loved the Dock from Tiger
and I love it now. Windows Taskbar is one of the worst things about
any OS. The Dock is great!
maintain an OS while taking into account all of the third party software that's out there. Make a choice between between first release bugs and upgrade bugs. Wait for
10.5.1, and if you're heavy on low-quality 3rd party system modifications you might have a problem with 10.5.2.
The majority of these cases are caused by incompatible third party software, namely a long-standing system modification call "Application Enhancer." Application Enhancer
has been a problem for many years, from a security and stability standpoint it takes the Mac OS a notch towards Windows.
As far as update problems, this is a lightweight, especially considering the number of changes and additions.
The following article describes the issue, and more importantly provides a non-invasive solution:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306857
I lost interest in the article rest of the article, I assume it's more typical cnet sneaky jabs and lefty compliments posing as objective journalism.
For news and reviews outside of the Microsoft Editorial and fan club, use google and add -cnet to your search.
Now you have two choices: when installing Leopard do an Archive & install or erase & install. If you erase & install use the Migration utility to migrate your user accounts to your "golden system".
If all fails you still have a clone of your old system to clone back to your boot drive and nothing should be lost.
I cloned, then performed erase & install, migrated my users and everything works great!
Archive & Install should work for most but I prefer the erase/install/migrate method.
And I'm not just talking about tech journalists. Where is the responsibility? Now,
I'm assuming that many of the stories deriding Vista are the same kind of
opinionated "truths". (As a Mac guy I kind of like VIsta. ) I suppose you need to
leave room for interpretation but it's obvious from the headline that this story
attempts to paint a dire scene. Does anyone know where I can go to read real tech
journalism, without the hidden agendas?
Leopard has been a total nightmare from this article, but most
people don't seem to have a problem in the comments field.
Could it be that people that don't have problems makes for
boring news. Only report the few people having trouble and
everybody will think that everybody is having problems.
Could you take a poll and ask how many of the early adopters
are suffering? Oh, the humanity of it all! Those poor people.
For now I trust Apple to only have kinks. Vista on the other hand has to remove some "features" that don't benefit users so that Drivers and other issues can be easier to fix.
There were apparently more pressing aspects for them to work
on. Java 6 will be completed for Leopard when it becomes a
higher priority.
Apple is not responsible for installation to caused by APE. Its
guidelines specifically say not to place third party code in the
system area of the kernel. Unsanity, Logitech and a few small
developers violate the guidelines.
MacFixit continually cries wolf to attract traffic to its ad dependent
site. Tidbits recently called MacFixit's behavior "despicable."
Seems appropriate.
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few staff that need a little extra technology, Leopard is super.
My copy shipped to me at school Fri Oct 26 at 9:30am by Fed
Ex, and I installed it rather quickly. I did a ProCare just 2 days
later to see all the new features and some that will make life
easier for me. I am eager to try out translations--did it with
my G3 iBook too. I have a student whose parents do not speak
English; this will be great, no more waiting for someone to send
it to me and by the time I get it --it is too late.
I have not found any quirks. I updated to Panther-back in the
days of dial up. Tiger was DSL.
So if this is suffering, come join me~~~~
it.
Geez
backpedal all you want about the content of the piece, but the
message of the title is crystal clear--and utterly misleading. The
vast majority of us who have upgraded have had experienced
nothing but a very smooth transition into a new OS that so far
has performed flawlessly.
If this was not your intent then change the title or submit a
retraction.
"hte quick brown fox, etc."
Either this is a new typing disorder I've recently developed, or perhaps it's related to 10.5 (but what evil magick is this?)
Anyway ... anyone else noticed themselves making the same typo repeatedly, and wondered?
It totally could just be me making the same typo :)
Apple bluetooth keyboards. There's some kind of latency issue
there, which results in the keystrokes sometimes arriving out of
sequence (!?!?!?). It's mental I know, but I think I read something
in a review about it.
That is, if you ARE using a BT keyboard. Not heard of the
problem in any other instance, so if you're using BT try
switching to a wired keyboard (or radio-based wireless kbd) and
seeing if you can replicate.
- living in Leopard hell
- by hal Summers November 4, 2007 2:52 PM PST
- I got Leopard in the mail on the day of it's release. Over one
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- Any keyboard will do...
- by M-RES November 19, 2007 11:18 AM PST
- ...any USB kbd will work. it doesn't have to be an Apple
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (83 Comments)week later I still don't have a working computer.
First, i called Apple and explained my issues and they made
some suggestions none which helped. I then called later and
the tech said my machine was not because it might be due to a
defective logic board and power module. I got an appointment
at the nearest apple store (100 miles away) and dropped off my
imac. When i picked it up yesterday i still wouldnt boot up. The
tech tried an archive and install. No luck. Then we tries to put it
in Target disk mode and transfer the info. No luck there. Then
we did an Erase and install. I did not want to do this because
had some info I didn't back up (stupid me) but none was critical.
So we did that. Finally, after driving home I fired it up and now
the screen says I need to attach a keyboard before proceeding.
I have a wireless keyboard! I cannot attach it. I called Apple
again. No help there (after holding 40 minutes). They said I
could buy a new keyboard. Thanks!!
i am waiting for a friend of mine to get back from work to go
over to his house and use his keyboard. Hopefully I will finally
have a working OS.
I think I'll like Leopard. I can't wait to use it.
Hal
keyboard. By default if you plug in a WinPC kbd the Windows
key becomes the Command (Apple) key
[That's why in the kbd control panel there's the option to
transpose the input from Win/Alt keys to put them the right way
round for the Mac's normal kbd layout]
So if you have an old USB PC kbd/mouse lying about, just use
those.
Did you try to repair permissions on the hard disk first before
going through the installs? When you boot off the install CD,
switch to Disk Utility (under one of the menus) instead of
running through the install. That way you can quickly fix any
hardware issues (or find out if your HD's actually knackered!).
and repair file permissions before installation.
You didn't actually mention any of the issues. There's a big Mac
community out there and many of them know a lot more than
Apple's 'Gurus' at their stores! ;)