Comments on: Intel ships long-awaited graphics drivers

Almost a year after Intel's 965 chipset arrived, the company has finally shipped drivers that unlock the graphics performance it originally intended to deliver.

[Randys2cents]

intel idiots

I see intels web designers want to hold
on to their reputation as complete idiots
without a clue. What makes me voice such
a harsh statement. If you go to the page
intel provides to see their video on the
advantages that their new drivers provide,
you will see that it does not work. The page
claims that you need the following:

1. cookies enabled: gee who wants that!!
2. flash: ok fine, but what version?
3. A supported OS: what OS are they referring
to? My new Apple and HP can not get it to
work.

And here is the best part. They provide a link
to a more detailed system requirement page,
but when you click on it, you get a #404 blank
page.

Funny, I never have any problems viewing
videos on CNET, the Apple web site, and many
other web sites that I surf to each day. Come on
intel, get it together. People coming to your web
site do not have the time or desire to have to even
wonder if their system will be able to view the provided
video. Randys2cents

[DaiMac]

It worked ok after updating flash...

On my iBook G4 I encountered the same thing (including the 404
page, why I hate JS popup stuff on sites) and then I went to safari
prefs and made sure allow all cookies was on (I had it on only sites
I nav to, changed back after video), then I went to adobe.com and
downloaded latest flash 9 installer and ran it, and then it worked.

They're still idiots for not using something better than flash, but if
you wanted to watch the video maybe that will help.

[assman]

Works fine for me..

Just because you have problems with it.. doesn't mean everyone is.

[nickelspit]

Works for me...

..and I didn't have to do anything.

[3tire]

??

Dude, I'm the biggest mac booster on the earth and I hate to knock
a fellow fanatic but I'm thinkin you need to get better with the
computers before you rant....1=ur machine default security 2=you
need help deciding?? 3=the story did say they were for xp
drivers....so I'm thinkin the OS is
.....uh....probably...hmmmm...uhhh...what do you think?

[Penguinisto]

Wrosk well enough here.

* I'm using Safari on 10.3.9 to view it.

* Flash? Just grab the latest (I've never had to go bother).

* Maybe your ISP is borked?

/P

[SeizeCTRL]

For Games? HAHAHAHA

Get real, if you want to play the "latest 3d games" you aren't going to want to do it with onboard video. Get a real video card for crying out loud.

As mentioned, gamers go for Nvidia or ATI cards... so Intel is way out of their league when it comes to graphics. It's a market they should just opt out of and leave it to the professionals.

[Leria]

I have to agree

I have to agree with that sentiment. Intel should just include a NVidia or ATI integrated graphics chip on all their motherboards, and stop with their own crappy IG solutions.

[Penguinisto]

More to graphics than games.

Let's see... there's:

3D/CG Graphics art and animation

DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray video

-so, no it ain't just for games, which is why the article went out
of its way to mention what most [i]gamers[/i] do, as opposed to
everyone else.

There's more to a video card/chipset than framerates in an FPS.

Oh, and about this:

[i]"you aren't going to want to do it with onboard video."[/i]

Funny, but isn't ATI now owned by AMD? I'm willing to wager
that they intend to make embedded ATI a lot more common in
their future offerings...

/P

[slickuser]

This chipset is for low end machines...

Some morons just assume that Intel is trying to compete with nvidia & bunch of losers company (AMD) with this chipset! you want a cheap computer? This is what you will get! Spend $1500 or more to get a better graphics! you idiots!

[Leria]

Low end?

Low End? I wouldn't call my father's $1250 dollar notebook PC 'low-end' in his hearing if I were you, he might knock you silly.

In all honesty, Intel HAS TO IMPROVE INTEGRATED GRAPHICS PERFORMANCE! Really, I tried my best to tell my father to not get a computer with an integrated graphic controller, but my protestations fell on deaf ears.
Now, I have been able to get about 30 frames a second in WOW, but I have to turn off nearly all the bells and whistles in it in order to do that. That is not acceptable even for an IG solution.

[Maclover1]

Wow slick

are you always this nice?

Why not spend small portion of that money on a game console and not play games on a PC like a "loser" since the PC gaming market is being killed off?

[limefan913]

Lots of users

Don't need anything more. Period. I build computers for friends and people they refer to me, and quite often, I just direct them to the department of integrated graphics, regardless of the chipset, just because a LOT of users don't need a dedicated graphics chip. The Intel chips are just fine for the average, non-gamer. Even if they play a few 3-D games, its fine usually. For a person with one 3D game, why spend $100+ on a PCI Express graphics card (I almost said AGP... I need an upgrade badly :()?

That said, I avoid Intel boards PRECISELY for this reason. I usually use an ASUS or something along those lines because they usually have an nvidia or ATI integrated graphics chip, and for no extra.

[amd_ace]

Intel is the leader in graphics marketshare.

90% of the PC users do not play games. Why anyone would spend $100 for a medium range graphics card is beyond me. Either use the integrated or get a real $299 graphics card.

[ethana2]

Integrated is a bad idea.

Make it pathetic if you must, but pleeease keep it seperate. Here: integrate the south bridge.

Same with sound, btw. __ PCIe 1x is your friend. __ Same for dial up modems. And wireless cards.

I mean, there's got to be some kind of compromise like that. That way, if your mom or grandma wants a Wii, you can return the integrated thing , get one that's perhaps 4 times as powerful for $100, and use the money from the first card to pay for wiimotes. There are a lot of good flash games out there.

You notice I don't advise actually buying a Wii- for the exact reason I don't like integrated GPU's. And you can't even run linux on it. (I mean, what kind of crap is that!?)

[mtrump2007]

one good reason to use separate graphics card

I have a home machine that I never played any 3-D games on it, yet I still go out and get a dedicated graphics card. The reason? Integrated graphics "steals" RAM from the main memory, and competes with memory bandwidth. When I run VMWare with a few virtual machines powers up, every bit of memory counts.

[ethana2]

Linux?

I was too quick to assume that's what the article was about. It would be nice if they at least released the source to a small group who could port it to Linux, compile it for all architectures, and give the code back, if they must keep it under copyright, trade secrets, and whatever else...

[ethana2]

Solaris, BSD, Haiku

Might as well port it to those while they're at it.

Better yet, you know, just release the hardware interface so we can code our own frigging drivers.

[Maclover1]

Wow

the people that comment here are full of some serious hate.

Looks look at some facts. 90% of people dont buy PC's to play games. Intergrated graphics IS MORE THAN ENOUGH for those people. If they do play an occasional game, its solitare probably.

Even the Intel GMA945 runs Aero just fine. I have watched a movie on a Vista box with a GMA945 and done the 3d flip deal and the movie is going along just fine in the window while and I do that flip deal.

There are few people in here that need to stop gaming for a while and go hug someone...PEACE OUT!!!!

[Penguinisto]

Indeed.

[i]"the people that comment here are full of some serious
hate."[/i]

...and more than a little ignorance of graphics.

Ah well.

/P

[pugster]

Throwing hardware at a problem doesn't work...

Intel makes good processors and chipsets. However, they don't have people who can make good drivers. You hardly see a 965 chipset motherboard with integrated graphics because people know that it won't work. It has gotten so bad that companies like apple want to use the older 945 chipset because those drivers work. I heard that Intel has started hiring some graphics engineers and hope that some of them will start writing usable drivers so that we can start using them.

WII does have lower end hardware than the xbox and ps3 but WII sells much better because of their content.

AMD/ATI has the exact same problem now. They hade the 2900/2600 video cards which can't sell. The graphics cards have poor drivers that hampers with the performance of the cards.

[seth.graphics]

New Integrated Graphics

I heard that the next generation of Intel graphics would include a significant increase in performance. Is it true that they are creating a high end card to compete with NVIDIA ? I guess the GPU/CPU integration allows intel's inexpensive integrated to increase in performance and still cost little and take less power