Comments on: Mac OS X vs. Windows 7: Who has the best upgrade?

Apple and Microsoft are both going to release major operating systems this year, but who offers the best upgrade.

[cozmikmiff]

So, now will any vista users explain the "Apple tax" PLEASE ??
because I dont understand.

[revolver777]

Silly iDiots, maybe you have a chance in the pwn2own competition this year? Wait, who am I trying to kid?

[freemarket--2008]

Yes, who? In the real world, Windows needs anti-virus, anti-spyware crap running 24/7 on top of an already bloated, sluggish OS. Enjoy!

[revolver777]

Yeah, wait until Mac reaches a significant share number, you'll realize how easy it is to write viruses and hack through them... You obviously haven't heard about the pwn2own competition so read up my friend! You'll see that in less than 10 seconds OSX got completely destroyed this year! Enjoy!

[freemarket--2008]

Yes I do enjoy my virus free system. The stupid competition doesn't mean a thing. The holes have been patched, but even if they weren't it wouldn't have mattered. Like I said 'in the real world' not in your MS sycophantic fantasies.

[h2g-vaka]

How stupid... OS X has 10x smaller community, that is the reason why there is 10x more malware programs for Windows. Biger community brings also much more applications, so isn't hard to find good antivirus, or whatever you want. And OS X users don't have a choice. They use what Apple serve them. How sad... SLAVES!

[bpike7]

I guess you wrote such a ****-weak article because you wanted to get back to masturbating over a poster of Steve Jobs. This story is incredibly one sided and I hope you get sacked for writing this fanboy ****.

Keep your sexual fantasies to yourself next time.

[huddie klein]

Why compare these products? You can't choose one or the other, unless you still have to make up your mind between PC and Mac, but that's quite another story.

[777xfore]

To all who are debating about who is better... Windows or Mac OSX. It?s all about where you live in the world and what is available and personally witch os you prefer to use. I was using Vista for two years and now running Win7, at the moment its truly just some fixes in the os and no major upgrade but it is worth it if you have the right hardware... Even in Windows Vista. Get the right hardware and you will have the true Vista Ultimate experience.

I am also running Mac Os X 10.5.7 and one thing about Mac is that it?s much faster to open programs and there is way less activity on the hdd than in windows. The software installs much faster and since I have been using it, it was running rock solid!!!

It?s all about which you prefer. Are you going to go for the Flag or Apple? You choose... Or use both, they?re both good for certain jobs...

[tuneslover]

Windows won :D

----Chapter Closed----

[cylon004]

I think that anyone who paid for vista ultimate should get it for free or big discount.

All ultimate user's have got is a few crappy wallpapers and extra sound's..

[tipoo_]

Does anyone else think that if Microsoft dropped all their legacy crap, they could match or better that saved 6gb in Snow Leopard?

[armoredcar]

There are a few things that i read in some earlier posts and thought that i would put my 2 cents in. First i should let it be known that i am an avid Mac user and have been for several years in this manner i am a little biased just as avid PC users are.

One of the great things about apple is the great efficiency at which you can do tasks. expose dashboard spaces and many other things that just come with it out of the box made by the same people that made the OS. The update to snow leopard is going to be a great thing for anyone with an intel mac and thats the point. apple has already said that it is not an upgrade that is needed that being said if you buy something i would think that 90% of people would want to get the most out of what they paid for. and thats exactly what this is for. Over the years i have seen XP released vista and now 7. Microsoft regardless of what they say is in fact releasing a new build of vista. the build release for vista is 6.0 and the release for 7 is 6.1. That being said its "vista fixed". and it should be. every release since XP i have hoped that there would be something that would sway me back to the windows world but all the little additions that they are putting into 7 are things that i have been using in some form or another on OS X since 10.4 (tiger) and some since the current release.

I also saw someone talking about self contained packages and that OS X doe3snt truly do this. that is false one of the major features when OS X was released was its ability to be as efficient as possible and have the ability to multi task. the preference files that were referenced to in the post about this are strictly for the users setting. So if you install a program something goes wrong with it (lets face it its something someone built so its not going to be perfect) you can drag your application to the trash in most cases re install it and all your settings are still in tact. The applications that require an installer are going to use specific things that are already in the OS or that have already been installed. core technologies, quicktime embedded while using codecs that you have installed so that you can use quicktime for 95% of video ect...

windows 7 is going to be a great upgrade for PC users there is no doubt. however for me it is going to be to little to late and for many others its going to be the same thing. the moajority of all my friends have switched to macs and many of them use to build their own machines. the ease of use and the ability to switch between an OS quickly without having to worry about nearly as many issues on a machine that performs very well has just been a better option.

all this being said here is the meat and potatoes. Snow leopard is to put OS X in a position for the future. 100% 32 bit and 64bit code, 16 Tera bytes of ram support, open CL, and grand central just to name a few. all these technologies will allow developers to progress with limitless ability. unfortunately for Microsoft they are still just trying to catch up to what is needed and used today. until they have something i know will still work as well 6 years from now as the day i bought it i will stick with OS X.

[ehsing4fun]

I am tired of hearing people say that Snow Leopard is a service pack. I am also tired of people saying Windows 7 is a service pack of Vista.

Apple's OS X is simply the same title as Windows is for Microsoft.
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Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7

OS X 10.3
OS X 10.4
OS X 10.5
OS X 10.6

All Major Updates.
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Windows XP SP1
Windows XP SP2
Windows XP SP3

Windows Vista SP1
Windows Vista SP2

OS X 10.5.1
OS X 10.5.2
OS X 10.5.3
OS X 10.5.4
OS X 10.5.5
OS X 10.5.6
OS X 10.5.7

All Minor security and performance updates
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Most people who only use Windows do not understand the way OS X names its products.

Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard

Just like Microsoft uses 95, 98, ME, XP, VIsta, 7


Snow Leopard has been re-built from the ground up to run faster and better keeping the most popular of the OS X versions GUI and adding new features to the dock and much much more.

Windows 7 has been re-worked as well. Also adding new features to its task-bar and much much more. while improving on a less-than-popular OS GUI.

Bottom line...

Both Major Updates, not service packs.

I use both Mac OS X 10.5.7 and Windows Vista SP2

[Jaso]

So, if I'm in the market for a new desktop or laptop, which one is better: a PC with Windows 7 pre-installed or a Mac with OSX Snow Leopard pre-installed?

I haven't yet seen an article comparing the two systems for people who want to buy a new computer. All I'm reading is a bunch of articles and comments on which will be the best upgrade. Windows and Mac owners switching to the other OS won't be "upgrading"; they would be buying a whole new device, so to compare the two like that is not really fair to either one.

I also haven't heard much about having OS X with Windows 7 on Bootcamp. Will it get you the best of both worlds, will it create any problems for the user (incompatibility and such), or is it just not worth it to pay all that money because there's no big benefit?

I think having a review of both OSes that compares and contrasts the two while listing the pros and cons of each would constitute grounds for a much better article than the one I just wasted my time reading.

[h2g-vaka]

Windows - 90%, OS X - 6% os usage!
So only stupid can't notice who is the best. To call OS X with such huge difference better? You shoud be just as stupid as OS X is. :D I believe too that Windows 7 will take back from OS X 1-2% that was lossed in "Vista period".

Windows 7 isn't just major service pack to Vista. In theory and at first look it is, but in practical work Windows 7 beats every OS. Little optimized? minus 300mb ram usage. Minor looking tweaks? Such awsome new taskabar! And i like someone to hear when say that new taskbar isn't revolutionary. Bingo, he's not. He is "product of evolution". Evolution brings us near perfection and revolution just give us new start in lack of better ideas.

Wasn't someone called Windows XP little tweaked Windows 2000?

[ThoOneWhoKnows]

Look at it this way:

OS X 10.6 took a successful product (OS X 10.5) and made it better. Who cares if it is an upgrade or a completely new operating system.

Windows 7 took a failed product (Windows Vista) fixed some bugs, added some new features, and changed some things that people hated with Vista from the very beginning...such as allowing people to turn off those useless security warnings ('a process has been started press ok to continue'...every time you open a program? Not necessary! Especially when it freezes the desktop until you hit ok.)...then assured those people who didn't want Vista that they won't have to have Vista just the Vista experience with a new name. Don't got me started on the Office upgrade. If you need a tutorial just to find things in the menu bar, the software is poorly designed!

OS X 10.6 takes roughly 5GB of HD vs OS X 10.5's 12.
Window 7 takes up 20 vs Vista's 16.
OS X 10.6 loads in about 45 seconds.
Windows Loads in about a minute but you have to wait for all the processes to finish before the OS will do anything even though you can see it on your screen just sitting there. Start the computer before you take a shower.

I have used Windows all the way back to 3.0 and have even gained much experience with DOS and Linux. Vista works well if you have exactly the right hardware (the top 2% of expensive high-end PCs) and don't mind re-purchasing all new digital cameras, printers, faxes, scanners...and so on. Windows 3.0 was so buggy that at one point my hard drive became write protected and couldn't be altered (nothing could be saved or deleted). It was caused by an OS glitch. I have spent many hours re-installing Windows XP on computers because of viruses... and third party virus protection was present when the Virus infected the computer. By the way XP was going to be Windows most secure OS to-date (FAILURE!).

Microsoft spends too much time trying to create a completely intuitive desktop interface when people only want to use programs on the computer and not interact with every single feature available just to do the simplest tasks. Windows continually attempts to think for the user and the user spends the bulk of their time trying to get it to stop. There's a reason for those commercials, with that guy who looks like Dr. Phil, that sell tutorials on how to use Windows. It's just that complicated and arbitrary a process you'll need help to figure it out.

Bill Gates, stop trying to create intuitive user interfaces...I am not a child, I can think for myself!
If the tech team think they successfully created software that thinks like a person that the tech team must be aliens.


If my computer doesn't have fences and walls why then does it need Gates and Windows?

[ThoOneWhoKnows]

Oh and by the way:

OS X costs $29.
Windows 7: about $150.

[ThoOneWhoKnows]

By the way:

OS X 10.6 costs $29
Windows 7: about $150 depending on which of the many many versions you buy.

[lemuelpn2]

CNET is just simply desperate of promoting the sacrificed 29$ Snow Leopard OS X and even settle down to compare with windows 7- What a funniest thing is happening to a bad taste Snow Leopard OS X.

[ntexasdude]

If any of you want to argue the value of MS vs Mac compatibility for incredibly high powered design engineering software then take the bait. Trust me, you will lose, but you may put up a good fight. There are programs in my career field that just aren't written (and never will be) written for ANY Mac. Does anyone remember the Basic A, Basic B, Assembly or even machine languages? Can anyone out there really speak intelligently about these subjects? There was a tremendous reason why the developers of this type of software was developed to sell to the masses. I guess if you want to surf, have photo editing or produce videos with something like AfterDark or maybe even making nifty TV commercials then Mac may be for you. If you want to get serious about designing things that could change the world then I'd suggest sticking with a Windows based PC.

How many corporate networks are out there who run Mac?

BTW - I've never really understood this one thing - What exactly is a PC. Hmm, I always thought it was a personal computer but then again, isn't that what a Mac is? Marketing.........

Robert

[ntexasdude]

After I wrote that last comment I got pissed off at myself. I want everybody to know the latest Mac OS is not too bad, but there are just certain things you cannot and will I dont think will bill ever be able to do with a Mac (at least until I'm dead).

Having said that - I think Windows 7 is a vast improvement over anything I've ever seen before. I just wish I could figure out how to decompile it and examine the millions of lines of source code. Hint hint....

[JohnMikhael480]

Macrosoft sucks

Apple the best

wow apple rocks her OS.

PERFECT KEEP IT UP APPLE

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