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Apple CEO Steve Jobs was still not feeling well enough Tuesday to sit through a lengthy town council meeting over the fate of his Woodside, Calif., mansion, according to his lawyer.

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by raven_ghostwolf April 29, 2009 10:22 AM PDT
Hope you recover soon Steve!
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by black jelly bean April 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
Steve Jobs is not sick...he is hiding from getting served with legal papers. He is using every excuse in the book through this "illness" scam and he is arguing that he has to pay $13 million more to fix up the place then if he were to simply tear it down and renovate. $13 million is pocket change compared to how much in Apple employee stock options he stole, let alone all his other scams.

The Apple Stock options Scam was made public when Apple suddenly announced in 2006 that it was "voluntarily investigating itself". Why would a corporation publicly announce that it has commited fraud? Because I filed a lawsuit against them after they had stolen thousands of my stock options given to me for outstanding performance at Apple for the relase of their flagship Mac OS X. This was part of a retaliation where I was "layed off" from the company right after September 11 and todl to leave the country (I am a minority).
Apple realized that I was going public with the options theft through my lawsuit (and that dozens of other employees had unknowingly had their options stolen/redated as well). Immediately after the "voluntary self investigation", Apple claimed that Steve Jobs had nothing to do with the scam.
These are all lies and attempts at covering up fraud. Steve Jobs' disapearance from public view for "medical reasons" for the last year is also a scam.

Apple has so far paid out $14 million to share holders over this (paid for by insurers), but the victims like myself have not receieved a penny because of the crooked Palo Alto Superior Court which claims in its records that I "dismissed" my case against Steve Jobs and ignored the fact that Jobs had illegally sent Apple lawyers and staff to the court in spite of the fact that the lawsuit was against HIM PERSONALLY AND HE HAD BEEN SERVED.
Steve Jobs is hiding from getting served again with lawsuits over the options scam and all of this is under the guise of his "illness".
by d3vildog69 April 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
1. Jobs has been confirmed to be sick, so him not attending should be a non-issue. I'm no fan of the guy but personal health trumps 90% of the things in this world. Personally my family and friends come first, but thats me.

2. It's his house, let him do what he wants to do with it. If he wants to tear it down, whose business is it if he does?

Get better Steve!
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by Lerianis3 April 29, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Yeah, we cannot really get on his case if he is actually ill...... while I'm not a fan of his products, I am a fan of anything that competes with Microsoft, even though I love their products.
by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 10:56 AM PDT
What does this mean for his expected return in June? If he is determined to be physically unable to attend a meeting to discuss the issues of his house, then what does this say for his ability to run the company itself? Surely running Apple is a wee bit more stressful than attending a city council meeting about a building status issue.

Curious.
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by Random_Walk April 29, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
@Dan: Who cares? The guy doesn't want to stay in some boring town council meeting until 1am... neither would I.

PS: Can you lay the FUD on any thicker?
by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
@Random_Walk:

I don't think I'd really call being concerned for Mr. Job's health status as FUD. Seriously, think about it for a moment. if the reason Apple is stating he cannot attend the city council meeting is accurate, then how can shareholders really know what his capacity is? A city council meeting is miniscule for stress compared to running a billion dollar company. Any attempt to dismiss this as FUD as you put it is simply irresponsible.

It's not an attack on Mr. Jobs, just a concern for his health and ability to do the job. Don't get so worked up over it.
by Random_Walk April 30, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
Yes, you show your concern so well... (rolls eyes)
by CrashPad63 April 30, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
Well his show of concern is as genuine as my show of contempt for that man. He is a flim flam man pure and simple. Repackaging products that are worse for the consumer than what is out there and selling them at a premium, reminds me of a sideshow barker. Get out of busness Jobsy, your time is almost up
3 years and Apple will fall again.
by Mr. Dee April 29, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
Lawyer: Jobs not 'strong enough' for town meeting.

Otherwise known as, 'I don't want to spoil 'the Steves' grand comeback at the end of June - we have products to launch and we will be riding the return of Steve, don't want to spoil it too early".
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by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
It could be just a ploy against the city as well and have nothing at all to do with Apple or his health. If he isn't present, he can't be asked uncomfortable questions about his plans for the property. It can all be done via proxy/lawyer instead.

If I sue Obama for breach of some minor contract in a local court, I don't expect him to come out in person. It's much more likely it's just a lawyer thing to do representation by proxy.

Or it oculd all be part of a much more broad master scheme to take over the world. Who knows? How's your tin foil hat? Got it ready? :)
by Mr. Dee April 29, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
"How's your tin foil hat? Got it ready? :)"

All I need now is a heart. ;)
by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 1:49 PM PDT
"All I need now is a heart. ;)"

I believe you need to go see the Wizard of Woz to get that. :)
by Lerianis3 April 29, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
Vegaman_Dan, most times if you have SPECIFIC questions that you think that only the person in question can answer..... they have to show up in court! Now, this is a case where they show the building's history, and they decide "Is it a historical building? Was it made by a well-known builder whose homes are in danger? Etc."

If they have no reason to think that the home was made by a well-known builder in a style that is 'very old and not very common'...... a historical site protection isn't giong to be granted.
by rshah29 April 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT
Have you ever attended one of these zoning meetings? No one wants to be there - sick or healthy.

Steve is fine; just looking for an excuse to not show.
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by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT
I think a zoning meeting that is stopping you from tearing down your house to replace it with another one would be something you might want to attend, wouldn't you? I mean, he does have a vested interest in the meeting itself.

The excuse given, if true, is concern for much greater issues. If not, then it's just petty and insulting to the city council. I don't think Mr. Jobs would be that immature and condescending to the city's leadership in that way.
by monkeyfun14 April 29, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
Uhm sounds like a bit of denial there rshah.
by Acill April 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
Steve offered the house to anyone willing to cart it away, so let them come get it by a pre deturmined date. If the dont, well then they didnt care enough to save it after all. Problem solved!
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by Carter1954 April 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT
Dead on comment, Acill! Isn't it funny how much cost people are willing to bear when it's someone else's money?

"That government that robs Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw
by Magicland April 29, 2009 12:00 PM PDT
Doesn't the house have Windows installed?
by Perry_Clease April 29, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
"Doesn't the house have Windows installed?"

Yes, but it is an old version and because house is considered a historic building Steve is not allowed to install service packs. Hence the windows are not secure and viruses to blow in.
by myles taylor April 29, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
Even if he is too sick to attend still....he took a leave of absence until end of June. If everything is going as planned and he is on the road to recovery, the last thing he needs is something stressful that might set him back. As someone with health issues myself, I know how that is.

Get well soon Steve!

P.S. The people in the US cling to their "historic" buildings and things too much. We're just over 200 years old as a country and less than a century old as a civilization. That's barely out of the teen years in terms of history. If we keep up the rate of preservation of "historic" sites, the whole country will be historic in the next century. (I know I'm exaggerating but you get the point.)
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by fokkwp April 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
Why is Steve even sweating this? The house has no emotional value to him - he just wants it torn down - and the whole thing can't be worth more than $10M which is pocket change for him. Can't understand why he doesn't just let the town do want it wants, or just send his representative to the town meeting.
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by lenrooney April 29, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
The town probably p*ssed him off! After all, they first allowed him to go ahead and demolish and then this preservation group steps in and get's a court order preventing it--for a house that's only 80 years old!

It's his house and his property. How would you feel?
by Anome April 29, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
I don't really care about the house, but I hope someone (Steve or otherwise) saves the organ.
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by jscott418 April 29, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
I don't see him returning in June. I think whatever problem he has is not going away and not getting better soon. Apple is a hard company to judge if they will suffer because of this. They obviously are going through slower sales like everyone else. I heard 1600 cut from Apple stores so that's got to say something about sales in stores. I thought seriously about a Mac Mini with the new graphics but after looking at the 9400M in 2 D mode I cannot justify buying the Mac Mini. Apple really needs to offer a little more hardware for the price. It will be interesting to see what June brings but I don't see it as being anything huge. After all several media moments have come with Apple with no real surprises.
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by black jelly bean April 29, 2009 2:42 PM PDT
Steve Jobs is not sick...he is hiding from getting served with legal papers. He is using every excuse in the book through this "illness" scam and he is arguing that he has to pay $13 million more to fix up the place then if he were to simply tear it down and renovate. $13 million is pocket change compared to how much in Apple employee stock options he stole, let alone all his other scams.

The Apple Stock options Scam was made public when Apple suddenly announced in 2006 that it was "voluntarily investigating itself". Why would a corporation publicly announce that it has commited fraud? Because I filed a lawsuit against them after they had stolen thousands of my stock options given to me for outstanding performance at Apple for the relase of their flagship Mac OS X. This was part of a retaliation where I was "layed off" from the company right after September 11 and todl to leave the country (I am a minority).
Apple realized that I was going public with the options theft through my lawsuit (and that dozens of other employees had unknowingly had their options stolen/redated as well). Immediately after the "voluntary self investigation", Apple claimed that Steve Jobs had nothing to do with the scam.
These are all lies and attempts at covering up fraud. Steve Jobs' disapearance from public view for "medical reasons" for the last year is also a scam.

Apple has so far paid out $14 million to share holders over this (paid for by insurers), but the victims like myself have not receieved a penny because of the crooked Palo Alto Superior Court which claims in its records that I "dismissed" my case against Steve Jobs and ignored the fact that Jobs had illegally sent Apple lawyers and staff to the court in spite of the fact that the lawsuit was against HIM PERSONALLY AND HE HAD BEEN SERVED.
Steve Jobs is hiding from getting served again with lawsuits over the options scam and all of this is under the guise of his "illness".
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by Agrainofsalt April 29, 2009 5:26 PM PDT
A quick question.

Why were you told to leave the country?
by greenbookartist April 30, 2009 4:09 AM PDT
This doesn't make much sense, unless you think he is planning to never appear in public again until the statute of limitation period expires. When does the statute of limitation period end? I'm not familiar with US Law in this respect. I'm also interested in why the decision of the Palo Alto Superior Court was not appealed?
by monkeyfun14 April 29, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
Damn I wouldn't want to live in that house either I hope to god that thing falling apart is from being abandoned.
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by Vegaman_Dan April 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT
Now having seen the pictures posted of the house in question, I do have serious questions regarding the viability of repairing the house to a condition of.. well, in all honesty, that's one ugly house even if was in pristine condition.

Sure, it can be restored, but does that make it worthwhile? I'm afraid I'm with Jobs here- tear it down and put up new house. The new one will be more historically significant in 50 years.
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by Perry_Clease April 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT
He could have it built in that style.
by AppleSuxLeo May 6, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
I remember when he could tie his shoes and feed himself.
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by redwoman521 May 13, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
For all who think that he doesn't want to pay for repairs, or he shouldnt tear it down because it's a historical building, you have to see the pictures before you comment.

http://news.cnet.com/2300-13579_3-10000785-1.html
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