Comments on: How does Apple's Macworld decision affect the faithful?

Macworld has been a place for Apple fans from around the world to come together in one place. Without Apple's participation, the event could wither. What then for the fanboys?

[ferretboy88]

All those people at the same event with all the same exact computers. Look like a bunch of clones.

[bonesbautista]

Yikes!

Um, they're there to try out one machine at it's debut. I'm thinking they're not showing Xserves at the Macbook Air debut. And, um, half of them are Apple employees, hence the Apple shirts with Apple logos.

[AppleSuxLeo]

Mac sales went off a cliff last month. Worldwide market share is stuck at 2.2%. Apple is cutting back to save money. Jobs health failing too. A double-whammy !

[Everlovin G]

LeoSux: "Mac sales went off a cliff last month. Worldwide market share is stuck at 2.2%. Apple is cutting back to save money. Jobs health failing too. A double-whammy!"

And, you posted this because you're a) a concerned Apple enthusiast, b) a repository of Apple data, c) a forensic accountant with access to current Apple accounting numbers, or d) a Vista troll.

Hmm, let's see...

Go get a life and/or a real personal computer and OS. Nyaa!

[Rawnchie14]

@ Everlovin G

Right. You know everything about everyone and their intentions to posting. Especially since hey, he MUST love Vista.

So therefor, because he took a shot at your beloved Apple, he must get a life... and must get a real computer/OS... like a Mac and OSX right?

Phew, you Apple cornballs are hilarious!

[DrtyDogg]

you do realize that your reply just validates his trolling.

[ikramerica--2008]

Everlovin G: uhm, LeoSux ALWAYS posts stuff like this. Are you saying that one is not allowed to make an educated judgment re: someone else's intentions no matter how many times they post? At what point are we allowed to claim Leo is a troll? 50 posts? 100? 1000? Never? Just give us a number?

Thansk

[Everlovin G]

@ Rawnchie

LeoSux's intent obviously does carry *some* anti-Apple sentiment, so therefore, yeah, you're so perceptive, I "know" everything. Like, I know you're a) readily irritable or b) LeoSux's Vista tech support.

@ DrtyDogg

You're obviously right.

@ ikramerica--2008

Try improving your reading comprehension skills before you 'get all' assumptive. What I was "saying" was rhetorical (sorry, four syllables).

And, FYI, Leo is a troll when he wakes up in the morning. Happy now?

[kelmon]

@ AppleSuxLeo

"Mac sales went off a cliff last month."

I guess they don't make cliffs as big as the used to.

[Rawnchie14]

@ Everlovin G

My apologies, I now see you're close acquaintances with LeoSux, since you apparently know him better than me. You must be proud. Then to come back with a smug comment about just how well you know him, well that's even better.

Although you THINK you analyze people well, I'm sorry to disappoint you in telling you that I'm 1) not very irritable, and am actually amused by your antics and 2) Do not use Vista often. Shocking? I suppose, since I MUST be a fan boy right?

Sorry to let you know, that not all people who have something negative to say about oozing fanboyism for Apple and Macs, are Vista users. Sometimes they're just people who generally think that kind of mentality is hm... pathetic?

[Chapmaniac]

The faithful will remain as is. The choir they preach to did get a bit larger in the last few years but has likely leveled off (due to the economy and people like me who bought a Mac four years ago but is now running Vista).

[mrgoodall]

you do realize that the average person that has bought an Apple product in the past 5-7 years, more than likely has no idea who Steve Jobs is right? Most people just want their cool looking products that do this thing, um, i think its called, err, work as designed. Yeah thats what the pundits and folks that post negatively about Apple, don't get, the reason why people buy Apple products, is because the stuff just works. And it works well.

Why is it that Apple comes into a market, even pre-existing ones, after Apple releases a form factor, the main competitors abandon their form factors and adopt Apple's? People put click wheels that don't click nor wheel on mp3 players and touch screen products that only some native apps use, the rest of the apps use a stylus or keypad. So yeah, guys lets be liberal here, give them their props when deserved.

[Magicland]

Just works? Like those flaming laptops? "Gee, is your laptop on fire, or are you just hot for Steve Jobs?" Like mobileme? Yeah, that flew like a penguin, didn't it? Like those cube computers that were the next big thing until half had to be replaced because the cases all had cracks in 'em. Like the NEWTON! Like the Lisa. Face it, if not for the undying devotion of their loyal fanboi's, apple would have been gone long ago if they relied on releasing competitively priced working products. Jobs is no idiot, he couldn't sell computers, so he sold apple as a religion. It's take-home scientology, and Jobs is their L. Ron Hubbard.

[4wight]

I've used Macs since 1986 and have only bought 4 models in all that time. Yes I returned my Cube because it looked like it had a crack in the case, but the replacement - which was sent and returned at no extra cost - is still working perfectly. My 75 year old mother surfs the internet on it and my 13 year old nephew thinks it's the coolest computer ever. So yes, for a lot of people, Macs just work.

[kelmon]

I can safely say that I had no idea who Steve Jobs was before I bought a Mac 6-years ago. Since then I have followed the keynote addresses at the likes of MacWorld and WWDC since they are a good way to find out what is going on and Steve consistently delivers a master class in how to present products or ideas. As someone who has to present ideas to people in my company to sell projects, I'll take any tips that I can...

[Mr. Dee]

Its quite sad, as a PC user, I do look forward to the events, been watching them on TV since 2002. But I guess with the economy becoming a strain and possibly Steve Jobs health and alarming public appearance, PR said, we gotta do something. This being the excuse, but they (Apple) make a valid point, there are so many gathering places for the faithful, the hundreds of stores, online communities and so on. Apple believes they have actually secured the Mac platform for years to come, Macworld was just the tool for all of this.

[DrtyDogg]

They don't need the large scale show anymore. The crowds of fans where important for getting attention for a while, now all that is needed is an email and all news outlets stop the press.

[Alex Alexzander]

It's true too. I'd be laughing, but instead, I'm scratching my head. Strange world we now live in huh. Maybe would start a betting pool to see how stupid the media events become before the media drops Apple like a dead roadkill.

My bet is, Apple will hold yet another press event to tell us that they have nothing new to show us, but just wanted to see if everyone would come anyway.

Alex

[Ipopngraphics]

Alex... scratching your head won't make the lice go away, nor will it explain to you why Apple is so popular. It will however, leave you with an irritated scalp, which may explain why you're so depressed about Apple's successes. Need something to cheer you up? You could start a new book... one that's actually based on something you know... How to Market Yourself using News Websites and a Lot of Useless Information Based on Opinion."

I know the title is long.... but so are most of your posts. Do you get paid by the word, or by the insult?

[Rawnchie14]

Apple is mainstream now, they have no interest in tending to their hardcore crowd anymore from the past. Those days are over. It's what happens when companies find large audiences, is your importance as customers dwindles. It's the nature of the beast.

The news sites will give Apple all the coverage they need. The keynote isn't important, because the keynote would just be repeated across all sites. Apple doesn't need it's hardcore crowd anymore. Just like Nintendo isn't needing theirs either. With success, comes new customers, and with new customers comes the shaft for fanatics.

[ikramerica--2008]

The large show is a limiting event in some ways. It means you must either:

1. withhold product announcements until after christmas
-or-
2. suffer the wrath of the press when you don't have anything new to offer at the show

And neither of those situations is good for Apple, and both have occurred many times in the past.

The WDC, held in the summer, avoids all of that. It is meant to be about the software, and if there is a new product, cool. But often products are released before or after the event, in order to diminish the importance of the conference in terms of product announcements. And then Apple releases new products at special events whenever they choose.

[RobinQueens]

I am so heartbroken! gee whiz, 99.9 of the world are going to miss seeing Apple at macworld. Cry me a river, nope-make it an ocean. What are the Apple fanatic, butt kissing, self promoting, the "iDepend on Apple for my self esteem" journalists going to do now? This may well be the end of civilization as we know it for them. I feel badly for "good" for product developers who needed that venue to get noticed. I laugh at the Apple fanatic journalists <cough> if you can call butt kissing articles journalism, I say this as someone who owns 2 macs , an ipod and an iTouch, I love Apples products, but the Apple fanatics that are upset remind of Yankee fans who think it is a divine right to win championships every year, get over it,!

[random truth]

Yea, but if you have a car, food, and a roof over your head your richer than 99% of the world.

[Vegaman_Dan]

I think there is far more going on behind the scenes at Apple regarding their recent actions than anyone may know about. You don't just turn your back on your loyal fanatical customer base like that without a good explanation.

I just don't know what is going on yet. Nobody does. And that is the sort of thing that investors do not like. All the rumors of Jobs' health are immediately put back on the table and Apple has a big challenge ahead to regain that confidence of consumer, fans, and investor alike.

[jdub210]

ok to all of the people commenting about how mac is nothing but a marketing company and saying that there os sucks and they have all kinds of problems and blah blah blah... i work on one of them at my school for movie editing,flash,web design,and audio recording and i have also used Pc's and by far the macs win there performance in anything creative beats microsoft hands down and don't get me wrong i have nothing against what microsoft does and there products are great for businesses and everything but the industry standard in media is mac's and all colleges have converted to mac labs over pc for that reason so leave macs alone they are a great product and yes they do have bugs but have you taken a look at windows problems??? go look and come back and tell me that macs have problems.

[Alex Alexzander]

I use Macs every day. And I still like PCs better. And I could care less what a college uses to teach Photoshop. It's exactly the same on a PC. Except I can run it on a tower for 1/3rd the price you pay to run it on a tower. Typical Mac user B.S., if someone speaks out against the Mac, you assume they must not have used one. How could not like it if they did?? That must really baffle you huh?

Alex

[kelmon]

@Alex Alexzander

Not technically true, and in both directions. The Mac version of CS4 is not 64-bit, for example but it (and CS3) provide 16-bit printing that the Windows version does not. One of the primary reasons for using Photoshop on a Mac is colour profiling, which Windows still hasn't got right, and that's damned important for photography if you if you expect your output to go beyond your own screen.

[Rawnchie14]

@ kelmon

This is the truth, this is what Macs are generally known for and are geared for. This is one thing Apple has done very well.

[ckurowic]

So many trolls....

[Mark_Anderson]

Irony.

[punterjoe]

I guess this clears the way for Macstock ...or more disturbingly, Burning Mac. The faithful will still flock, even without the participation of the object of their devotion. Maybe someone will organize it as a traveling roadshow tour, Something will fill the vacuum.

[Magicland]

Burning Mac! What a great idea! Held annually in the wilds of Cupertino, people will come from all over to camp out, talk to each other via wifi on their mac air's, and the whole thing is culminated with the burning of a huge Bill Gates effigy...

[savvydude]

You know, posting your fanatical rantings twice indicates that you really need to get a life. Plus, it was way too long - especially when it amounted to nothing.

Apple will survive just fine without you.

[Perry_Clease]

"You know, posting your fanatical rantings twice indicates that you really need to get a life. Plus, it was way too long - especially when it amounted to nothing.

Apple will survive just fine without you."

I assume you are replying to the long post made by some without, or not visible, screen name. He, she, or it, has made the exact same post quite a few times today, kind of like a Cal Worthington TV ad. Since all we see in the header is the date I am thinking that he may be a Decembrist and I do not mean a member of the rock band. Either that or he is a bot.

[AppleSuxLeo]

AAPL $40 ? Bwahahahaha !

[Penguinisto]

MSFT $19 ?

(no need to laugh from here...)

[AppleSuxLeo]

They are going down the iCrapper.

[AppleSuxLeo]

A Monday update to Apple's Leopard operating system is causing a host of problems for users, ranging from broken Bluetooth connections and no sound to large popping noises during boot-up and dead USB ports.
Say it aint so !

[Brian]

It aint so!

[Mark_Anderson]

Can we kill off the trolls on both sides of the fence?

Please?

[Rawnchie14]

Phew... trolls out in full steam today, yea I'm looking at you, Leosux.

[AppleSuxLeo]

That pic of the pasty-faced Mac wimps is enough to make one not want to use a Mac...Eeeew...

[AppleSuxLeo]

The Apple faithful are looking for the nearest iBridge to jump off of.