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Comments on: Senators want Justice Department to sue P2P pirates

Lawyers representing the Recording Industry Association of America may soon have a powerful new ally in court. A new proposal in Congress would let the U.S. Department of Justice file civil lawsuits against copyright pirates on peer-to-peer networks.

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Ah same ole...Same ole
by ckani November 8, 2007 4:01 PM PST
Another public service to benefit corporations brought to you by the Republicons and Democraps.

This public service would not be possible without the generous donations (bribes, hookers, vacations,free airline service) from Sony, Time-Warner, and Universal Music.
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Yes my prediction as well
by ckani November 8, 2007 4:03 PM PST
We'll be burning "Dollars" by the campfires to keep warm.
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Good. Stop stealing stuff people
by stormz69 November 8, 2007 5:12 PM PST
I can't understand why you are all 'stop buying music' (as if you buy music anyway) etc etc.
You're all missing the basic point... stealing is stealing, whether it's an mp3, .avi or a burger. Someone had to pay (money, blood, sweat, tears) to create what is being stolen. If you like it, you should pay for it, simple as that. How would you feel if I just took whatever it is that you try to make a living at.... in your world, it should all be free, right?
Just because you can't see who it is you are stealing music off (for instance), doesn't mean they don't cry because of it. Soon musicians won't bother trying to make decent music anymore (it wouldn't be worth it) and will be working at McDonalds.
No, I`m not a record company lover. They need to wake up and treat artists fairly as well.... but all of this 'no laws against copyright theft' etc etc is just screwing the artists over even worse than the labels did. At least the labels are changing their attitudes. Are you?
My wife is a musician. We have 2 children (and a third on the way). We have no spare money. We've spent thousands and thousands over the years on getting her to the position where she is now recording her debut album.... but what's the point if it's going to be downloaded and she doesn't get any love back for it?

www.sellaband.com/mandyleigh/ btw but don't flame her, flame me at gary.storm AT gmail.com .

Don't be worse on the artists than the labels.
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Reality Check
by Renegade Knight November 9, 2007 7:37 AM PST
If you steal a CD from me and I caught you, this is how it would play out.

I'd report it to the police. They may (or may not) come over and ask me "Do you need a report for your insurance?" I'd say "um...I want you to go arrest that jerk!" They would say, "sorry but we have higher profile cases and don't have the man power to look into small issues like this, we can write you out a report and you can file with your insurance"

That would be that. While I don't like it, a crime ring takes priority over a dork taking my CD.

Ignoring that it's not even the job of the DOJ to both enforce and then rule on the law (they rule only) if they did take this over they should proritize it and drop it to the bottom of the list.

Yes stealing is wrong. No the DOJ shold not take over for the RIAA. That's the RIAA's job and they should have as hard of a time as I do when someone shoots out the window of my vehicle and the police ask "do you need a report for that cause we are not going to do more than that".
Stolen?
by R. U. Sirius November 9, 2007 11:06 AM PST
Are you a complete moron, naive, or just a shill for the RIAA? If you think for one second that the RIAA cares about you or your wife, you are sadly mistaken. They care about the profits from Britney and Fergie. Anyone lower on the foodchain is dirt as far as they are concerned. File sharing is a way for you to cheaply get your music in front of people. If they like, they will buy CD's. I know because I do it.

Advocating for the government to represent an industry in civil cases is a dangerous precedent. Very dangerous. Why on earth would you be for that?
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Checks and Balances
by Renegade Knight November 9, 2007 7:30 AM PST
One of the checks and balances is that the DOJ can't just rule on everthing they see. A case has to be brought before them.

When you side step this process you are sidestepping the checks and balances built into the system. It's enough that the RIAA is playing the part. The DOJ has enough issues to contend with (such as it's own broken systems) to where they don't need the extra work load to deal directly with petty issues. Plus I don't want the DOJ ruling on more than it needs. It's powerful enough as it is.
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Temple Texas Computer Nerds
by thetopnerd November 9, 2007 7:32 AM PST
Simple?

Because we make a lot of profit from the viruses transmitted through Limewire and similar P2P, I am reluctant to make this comment:

Start buying your music on legit P2P?s.

Example, Walmart, Napster, Musicmatch etc?

A P2P is a very powerful transmission medium. The bit torrent technology
is fairly impressive as well.

If everyone begins to pay the measly ass 88 cents for a song, these
legislators can go **** up a rope. No one will vote it in because
no money is in it.

I need to point out that 25% of our service calls are related
to P2P music transmission. (pirated music)

What amazed me, the bulk of these music download / pirate
idiots will spend $100.00 + dollars to fix their PC but wont
buy an 88 cent mp3.

If it?s the rights management you are concerned with,
here is some simple FREE technical advice:

1) download pay for 88 cent song
2) play song with media player
3) setup sound forge or similar audio recording software
4) set recording to ?play what you hear?
5) adjust EQ and levels to personal preferences
6) record to .mp3 format and don?t save meta data

Walla ! No digital rights management (DRM) embedded.

What is the point in ripping off the music industry when
It costs next to nothing anyways ?

Shawn A. Richeson aka TheTopNerd
http://www.clickanerd.com
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"Fewer Rights Under the Law"
by Heebee Jeebies November 9, 2007 9:14 AM PST
So what else is new. What we need is a crooked stupid politician law. If we suspect they are stupid and/or crooked then we get to run tests if they fail we get to send them to Iran for waterboarding.

Robert
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And the General Populace wants to sue Senators
by starcannon November 9, 2007 2:00 PM PST
fini
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Treat Bin Laden as a P2P Pirate
by savagesteve13 November 10, 2007 2:02 AM PST
And he will be in USA custody within weeks.
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Legislation vs. Technolgy
by dint5 November 10, 2007 4:37 AM PST
This is a very good example of the Entertainment Industry not adapting to the environment created now.

The Internet has brought capabilities of distribution that probably were not ever imagined! Throughout the years of the Internet, Businesses have adapted to the technology and also simplified previous technologies that were very complicated.

For example, e-mail has been simplified so it can be accessible from anywhere in the world; our computers are now accessible from anywhere in the world; we have the ability to work from home and never go to the office; we have abilities to distribute files from one place to the entire world;

So my question comes back to this:
Business, small, medium and large are adapting to these environments and make it easier for their employees to work. So let me understand this RIAA and MPAA, your organizations/artists that belong to you, do not want to adapt? I mean why not create a technology to assist the very core issues that you are not happy with? If the matter is about copyright infringement, then why not work with the technology companies to distribute the music legally and/or create technologies to assist you in that. Do not spend your money on lawsuits, spend it on investing in creating a technology to address the issues. Forcing legislation will only cause the users/buyers of your products to become more disgusted with you and the people sponsoring the bill(s).

Learn to take responsibility and action by resolving the issue not compounding the issue.

Legislation is the wrong way to tackle this issue. The issues is a technological issue not a legilative issue.
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Protect Constitutional Rights
by XRay Specs November 13, 2007 10:35 AM PST
Let's not forget we live in the United States of America and under it's Constitutional guarantee of Rights, including Article 1, Section 8: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" When technology provides services and software that do not preserve copyright online as a guaranteed American right, we are existing in a state of anarchy at best, and constitutional overthrow at worst. That's why the Senate is trying to correct this situation and the current administration continues ignoring the Constitutional Rights guaranteed to U.S. citizens. Reading this blog, it seems most people participating also support overthrow of our Rights guaranteed in the Constitution, starting with Copyright.
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by doodad69 December 23, 2008 6:55 AM PST
To: jemiller0,
"Wasting trillions in Iraq"? We have come nowhere near a trillion dollars to fight this war that should have been fought when Clinton's sorry butt was in office. I agree with most of your premises, but embellishment does your comments a grave injustice.
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