Comments on: Ohio federal judge strikes down Net-censorship law

An Ohio case may be a victory for free speech, but taxpayers will end up footing the bill. Why not hold politicians responsible for paying to defend unconstitutional laws in court?

[emak]

So happy to know where my $$ is going...

...and I just spent $120 on license plates... a small drop, but I'd
rather that and my income tax go elsewhere... maybe I could get a
bill together for next November's general election... humm...

[fazalmajid]

Politicians are accountable

To voters, that is. Now, if voters can't be bothered, that's another question.

[declan00]

politicians, voting, accountability

The view that politicians can be held accountable for every issue through voting is commonly held but wrong.

On major nation-defining, international-crisis topics like the Iraq War and Occupation, yes, people might be irritated enough to vote based on that NDICT.

But the problem is that few things are NDICTs. If you're an Ohio resident, your elected state rep has hundreds or thousands of non-NDICT votes a year. If you like your rep's stance on taxes or firearm confiscation, are you really going to vote against him based on a First Amendment case?

It would be like being forced to buy a house that comes with a car and furniture. Sure, you can choose a different car or furniture -- but only by buying a different house in a different neighborhood. It may sound ridiculous, but that's the way political choice works. Many choices are bundled together in one vote in November.

Fines are much more direct ways of ensuring accountability.

[Leria]

Time to kick out our sex-hating politicians

And realize that there is NOTHING about sex that is harmful to children, excepting STD's which for some reason children catch less frequently when they are sexually active than adults and which we really need VACCINES for.

[alflanagan]

Re: : Time to kick out our sex-hating politicians

Are you referring to "knowing about" sex, or "having" sex, for kids? I'll agree knowledge itself isn't harmful, but as for the other... ick!

[Dalkorian]

funny

You sound like a pedophile Leria. One that's warped enough to
think trying to infect a child with a STD is a natural and OK thing to
do.

I hope I'm wrong. If not, may you get caught by the law someday
and be put in prison. Do you know what other prisoners do to child
molesters? *THAT'S* justice.

[benfinkel]

I'm glad to spend my tax dollars this way...

There are a lot of dumb ways for your tax money to be spent (see retarded bridge projects in Alaska for a case study) but this is not one of them.

Every time one of these bills is proposed and ruled unconstitutional it strengthens our freedoms and makes it more difficult for similar laws to be passed in the future. Obviously in the ideal world they wouldn't even be brought up but this is the real world. In the real world the issues need to be brought up and ruled on in order to establish our society's position on them.

If you didn't spend the money to defend your freedom today, who's to say that these freedoms might not be taken away in the future when the battle might be weighted differently?

This is, all in all, a good thing to have happen.

[declan00]

well...

You'd be right if the courts were reliably protective of liberty. But that assumption is incorrect. Just look at the Kelo and Raich cases that were recently up before the Supreme Court, and the remarkable decisions to uphold unconstitutional laws.

What you're also missing is that legislators, too, typically take an oath to uphold the Constitution. I presume this the case in Ohio. Why should we encourage them to violate it?

[bemenaker]

Would almost agree

But now my tax money is being wasted paying legal bills that should have never been incurred in the first place. Why? Because these stupid a$$hats in Columbus wanted to ram a bill down our throats, that appeases 20% of our society, and screws the rest of us. I'm sick of listen too 20% of the population trying too tell me how too live. It's the 21st century folks, time to wake up and grow up.

[Nancy R]

I am currently in this exact type of case

c/news.com My entire 'website' (savejordan.net)was closed by an 'ex-parte court order in Civil court Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Kimberly Barry et,al. Vs. Nancy Rolfe. They weren't even legally permitted to sue me personally as savejordan.net is a Limited liability company. Instead of dismissing it, my co. was shut-down without a word of defense. First they send in team one at 10:30AM. Ex-parte Denied by Judge Russo and set for hearing. Team two 'Denver Barry' et,al. files 'same' complaint at 3:30PM same day and are given new case # and different judge. Granted website closed!!! I expose the scam and the cases were consolidated. Judge Russo holds many days hearing re-opens website (except juvenile court evidences) that I filed in Juvenile court and exerpts from court transcripts. Three of the litigants have been found to 'not' have verified complaints against me / website. Hearing continues, awaiting adjudication on 'whether jvenile records are permitted. They iplemented plan 'three' and with the same complaint went to "Juvenile" Court and had it 'closed again' by another ex-parte court order again, without one word of defense (this is while in mid-proceedings in a different court "Civil" for the 'same issue'). My question is "Where can I find the details of this Federal Judge case" It would really assist the civil court adjudication and save the website. The website is named savejordan.net and was begun to save my son. Denver Clarkson Barry is a career criminal and he and his daughter Kim severely abused my son and as he is financially well off, it is making it very difficult /impossible to get the truth into courts. I also had billboards put up and newspaper, both bailed so they would not have to pay for attorney's to defend their right to freely advertise. It would really help to give the Judges the details of this case, well I guess that would depend on whether it has been adjudicated by the appellate court. Any help at this point would help alot. Thank-you Nancy Rolfe. PS. also is it cnews.com for dierect e-mail or c/news.com? E-mail [e-mail]
The closed website 'juvenile records' is savejordan.net

[Nancy R]

I am currently in this exact type of case

c/news.com My entire 'website' (savejordan.net)was closed by an 'ex-parte court order in Civil court Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Kimberly Barry et,al. Vs. Nancy Rolfe. They weren't even legally permitted to sue me personally as savejordan.net is a Limited liability company. Instead of dismissing it, my co. was shut-down without a word of defense. First they send in team one at 10:30AM. Ex-parte Denied by Judge Russo and set for hearing. Team two 'Denver Barry' et,al. files 'same' complaint at 3:30PM same day and are given new case # and different judge. Granted website closed!!! I expose the scam and the cases were consolidated. Judge Russo holds many days hearing re-opens website (except juvenile court evidences) that I filed in Juvenile court and exerpts from court transcripts. Three of the litigants have been found to 'not' have verified complaints against me / website. Hearing continues, awaiting adjudication on 'whether jvenile records are permitted. They iplemented plan 'three' and with the same complaint went to "Juvenile" Court and had it 'closed again' by another ex-parte court order again, without one word of defense (this is while in mid-proceedings in a different court "Civil" for the 'same issue'). My question is "Where can I find the details of this Federal Judge case" It would really assist the civil court adjudication and save the website. The website is named savejordan.net and was begun to save my son. Denver Clarkson Barry is a career criminal and he and his daughter Kim severely abused my son and as he is financially well off, it is making it very difficult /impossible to get the truth into courts. I also had billboards put up and newspaper, both bailed so they would not have to pay for attorney's to defend their right to freely advertise. It would really help to give the Judges the details of this case, well I guess that would depend on whether it has been adjudicated by the appellate court. Any help at this point would help alot. Thank-you Nancy Rolfe. PS. also is it cnews.com for dierect e-mail or c/news.com? E-mail [e-mail]
The closed website 'juvenile records' is savejordan.net CASE NUMBER CV-07-640582

[carwaterguide]

Try these sites if you want to waste some more time and money

http://RecordOnlineGuide.blogspot.com

[theonetruth]

Nancy A.Rolfe of 15711 Normandy Rd., Cleveland Ohio who wrote the above "I am currently in this exact type of case"

Nancy A. Rolfe is currently in jail for contempt of court for her insanity while on trial for threatening to kill the person who is adopting her son. She was found guilty and is awaiting sentencing.

In an attempt to get out of trouble for all the child abuse she did to your son, Nancy Rolfe tried to blame others. She thought it would be her word against another and therefore she would not get criminally prosecuted.

Nancy Rolfe thinks if she blames others for what she did, enough times, eventually someone will believe her. The only persons who believe her are those who know nothing of the facts.

The courts heard all the evidence and facts. As a result, Nancy A. Rolfe has absolutely no contact with her minor son. The adoption was approved.

Nancy A. Rolfe has been printing lies against the father of the son she abused ever since the child was taken away from her on October 23, 2003. She is angry and wants to hurt him because she is a child abuser and got caught.