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A new report by the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation suggests spending $30 billion on IT infrastructure would create or save 949,000 U.S. jobs.

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by billmosby January 7, 2009 5:19 PM PST
Also invest some in a couple of wars, as that's been reported to have gotten us out of the great depression. Oh, wait....
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by solitare_pax January 7, 2009 5:52 PM PST
They could generate twice as many jobs if they invest exclusively in Windows Vista - that's one job for a person doing the actual work, and another job for someone working to keep Vista running - and of course, work to keep the lobbyists employed.
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by hutwarmer January 7, 2009 6:04 PM PST
949,000 jobs created. 30 billion in US taxpayer dollars.

It looks as if India is going to have another stellar year.
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by tech_crazy January 7, 2009 6:53 PM PST
Then you should seriously consider moving there.
by hutwarmer January 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST
I would but your mother doesn't like the hot weather, ******.
by marvin25 January 7, 2009 7:09 PM PST
There is no justification for the Government to spend on the Internet. Broadband is being put in faster than the tier one providers can keep up with the new demand. Furthermore this new broadband is going in without Government help plus if you take a three year contract the installation is free. If the Government gave money for Internet it will be stated that it is going to stockholders of the companies. Why can one ISP put in broadband at a fast rate in low density areas without Government help while in high density areas they need help. If the Government gave help from our elective officials would be looking for a new job at the next election. The last thing to remember is that the tier one providers can't keep up with the speed of one ISP putting requirement on the Internet and has killed net neutrality completely. If the last mile providers decide to do it then the content providers will tell them to get lost and we don't need the customers.as we are having a hard time in meeting the needs of the customers of one ISP period. If the Government gave money to them then would be a question why is ISP doing without Government help which is true broadband. They are also putting in a first class system and giving real customer service and will correct the problem if you show they have a problem. The bottom line should go in the garbage pall completely as there is a new Internet being put into place and not the ones people talk about
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by ppgreat January 7, 2009 8:33 PM PST
The trouble with such a proposition is that it basically throws money into the pot for bodies in a field where increases in efficiencies lower the count and/or need for full time employees.

While it mentions 'innovations' as a result of such an investment, it appears as much thought went into the study as went into the reasons for the financial bailout.
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by scdecade January 7, 2009 9:12 PM PST
If politicians, who will promise anything to get elected and stay in office, could create good jobs by simple decree or by spending money wouldn't we all have great jobs with high salaries by now? Why are they withholding this from the rest of us? If spending $30 billion creates 1 million jobs then why not spend $30 trillion and create 1 billion new jobs? Unless this is all just depravity.
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by protagonistic January 7, 2009 9:18 PM PST
So if my math is correct they want to spend roughly $30,000 for each job created. Wow, what a bargain.
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by Endbringer January 8, 2009 5:25 AM PST
I'd like to know where in the Constitution it gives the government authority to pick the winners and losers in the market place. The government's job is not to create jobs. Its job is to make sure there is the opportunity to have a job, but not give it nor create it. We've lost this mentality and we will soon be so dependent upon our government that we will cease to exist as a free society.

And is it "fair" to use the police power of government to take my property (money) and give it to an industry that either is working on its own fine or cannot make it on its own?
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by sanenazok January 8, 2009 7:10 AM PST
Most of the things that the government does are not in the Constitution, nor should they have to be. By now, government interaction with the market is so strong, there's no going back.
by lyntone January 8, 2009 8:11 AM PST
Until we undo the trade deals that Bill Clinton gave us, all is lost!
He gave us NARFTA and "most favored nation" status with Communist China, there went the good paying middle class factory jobs!
Of course Bill Clinton sold out the very people who elected him and now he is a multi millionaire!
You can't buy a new home or a new car on a Walmart wage!
Walmart had the most to gain from these trade deals, and Hillary served on the Walmart Board.
Connect the dots!
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by LuvThatCO2 January 8, 2009 10:31 AM PST
I love this 'save jobs' meme going on right now among leftist politicians/pundits. You cant definatively calculate how many jobs are 'saved' in this manner, which is perfect for libs because they can claim they saved the jobs and no one can 'prove' it not true. Also, spending comes from tax revenue, and higher taxes cost jobs as people shift their spending from buying thngs (TVs, Cars, etc - all of which require people with jobs to make) to giving the money to government. Jobs will be lost either now as people pay more if taxes are raised, or in the future as people pay more in taxes *plus* more for the interest on the money government borrowed in the past.

If they REALLY want us to get out of this recession and avoid a depression - and I'm not so sure thats what the politicians want since this 'crisis' gives them the ability to seize more power over people's lives - then what the govt should definately NOT do is repeat all the same mistakes Hoover and FDR did which turned a run of the mill recession into the 'Great Depression'. So far it IS repeating them.
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by ajbright January 8, 2009 11:30 AM PST
I've long argued that the money spent on the Iraq war could have overhauled the broadband infrastructure in the US.

What people have difficulty grasping here is that it isn't only IT jobs that get created. Cable doesn't lay itself, new buildings aren't made out of computers, the metals, plastics and other materials that are needed to create a new fiber network do not come from Google or Microsoft.

Besides the enormous number of non-IT related jobs created by something like a $1 billion per state investment in broadband infrastructure, besides the potential of hundreds of new entrepreneurs taking advantage of the new technology, faster internet speeds and therefore becoming yet another source of job creation, the knock on effect of creating hundreds of thousands of high paying tech jobs has nothing but good repercussions in any community that they exist.

Everything from the construction of new homes, remodeling of existing and refurnishing of both to things like buying groceries and eating out. Watching movies, gym memberships, baseball camps and tourism. All of them would be affected by creation of large numbers of high paying jobs, no matter what industry they come from.

But with the investment made in communications infrastructure, the US would then have a broadband network that can compete with countries like Japan and South Korea. If you like that the US has been a leader in innovation from everything like IT to Aerospace, this sort of thing is important.

It is important for our future that we build the best planes, we build the best computers, we build the best ships and cars. And while high speed broadband is hardly the cure-all for such things, it does have an indirect effect on many.
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