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Comments on: Critics: Homeland Security unprepared for cyberthreats

Some Washingtonians are rethinking the idea that DHS can handle cybersecurity, saying it has proven to be inefficient, bureaucratic, and unable even to monitor federal networks well.

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by n3td3v September 17, 2008 5:37 AM PDT
Over hyped threat is over hyped.
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by haceriii September 17, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
Go away, you Gobbles Security people. Don't the three of you have anything better to do than troll?

And considering that critical infrastructure things like SCADA systems are often reachable through the Internet (they shouldn't be, but that's another topic altogether) I would say that it's not overhyping the threat. If power grids get taken down, people do die. Just take one example: folks on oxygen pumps in their homes. Being without power for a few days means death for these folks.
by n3td3v September 17, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
I'm nothing to do with Gobbles. Three of me? There is only one. n3td3v.
by n3td3v September 17, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
n3td3v is one person.

n3td3v is not a troll.

n3td3v talks the truth.
by The_Decider September 17, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
Either you are part of Gobbles, or they just use the same name. Either way there is not one of you.

Talking in first person is creepy. Bob Dole agrees.
by n3td3v September 17, 2008 2:04 PM PDT
The_Decider,

GOBBLES IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON WITH NO CONNECTIONS TO ME.

THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO POSTS AS N3TD3V. THATS ME.

CUT OUT THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

ALL THE BEST,

N3TD3V
by n3td3v September 17, 2008 5:42 AM PDT
Cyber security is not a threat to national security. Gary Mckinnon was your only real threat and he got in by scanning for blank passwords. Estonia and Georgia were false flags by the U.S, so they don't count.
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by n3td3v September 17, 2008 5:51 AM PDT
Free Gary Mckinnon from extradition to U.S. for 60 years. Which was originally ment to be 6 months community service in the U.K.

http://www.h2kradio.com/Method%20-%20Gary%20Mckinnon%20Hacker%20Tribute.mp3

http://freegary.org.uk/

**** U.S!!!
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by masonx September 17, 2008 7:08 AM PDT
Is there anything that this administration has touched that works?
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by The_Decider September 17, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
They seem competent with torture.

Every
by joetesta70 September 17, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
The DHS is even more evil than $teve Job$
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by Dalkorian September 17, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
Worse, the DHS is even more evil than M$.

See how silly and ridiculous you sound? No, I guess not, that would take brains and trolls don't have an abundance of that.
by aSiriusTHoTH September 17, 2008 7:54 AM PDT
You have got to be kidding me. Some of you people actually think cyberterriorism isn't a threat? What happens if a hacker group pull off the hack of the century and cripple the main DNS servers and down goes the internet for 2-3 days. How much money do you think will be lost?

Cyberterriorism is a huge national security threat. Pull your head out of the sand!
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by fdunn3 September 17, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
Sure but the Feds would be the last to know about it and the least capable of mitigating it.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the Fed will be ready when they can't even mitigate their own security problems.
by dj_erik September 17, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
In my opinion, the DHS was given a job to ensure security from foreign and domestic threats. Instead of performing this task, they are focusing efforts on child pornography, hurricane relief, etc. I'm not saying that these aren't important tasks, but when you are given a job shouldn't you do that job? We instead are relying on MIT students to find flaws in the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. In my opinion, this is just another abuse of power by the Bush administration, which could cost us greatly. Those MIT students could have easily planted a bomb in the subway and have it traced back to a grandmother's transit pass, but I guess cyber-threats aren't real anyways...
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by fdunn3 September 17, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
The Feds get hit more than we do and for some pretty dumb reasons.

They don't have a clue as to what is going on on a daily basis. Their "Alerts" are so late and not always accurate.

Why would anybody depend on the "expertise" of someone that can't even take care of their own systems?
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by jtmajorx September 17, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
Router(config)# access-list 25 deny host TERRORISTS
Router(config)# access-list 26 deny host OSAMA
Router(config)# access-list 27 permit host... Freedom??
Router(config)# access-list 28 deny host Bush.

See guys, the US government is COMPLETELY ready for cyberthreats. And worst case, if we're not, at least Bush will get a kick out of his mouse moving independently.
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by tremorfireheart September 17, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
cyber warfare is a real threat and a very real part of modern combat. In the case of an attack it could take out our capability to colloborate our forces and accurately deploy them. While nerc sip compliance has certainly shored up the defenses of the electrical grid from cyber attack, the standard styles of social network password acquiring can be applied. Not that you can really help those human tendencies from behind a desk in dc anyways. We have proved time and time again that if you cut our power for an extended duration we will begin to turn on each other. People panic enough when they know the lights are going to be out for a week because of a forseen event, how do you think they are going to manage if they don't know?

The formation of the department of homeland security was a knee jerk reaction out of fear. We have the fbi and the cia and the military. The FBI handled internal affairs related to federal laws and dangers at home. The Cia handles particular threats abroad. The Military Handles broad threats both here and abroad. The police force handles local matters and out breaks. Why do we need to Insert a middle man between the cia and the fbi so we can play a multibillion dollar game of telephone? In the computer world the more domains (or different type of security groups) you have the harder it is to get everything to work smoothly and increases the difficulty of passing information from one computer to another many fold.
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by aintnorainbowdorothy September 17, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
Securing cybersecurity? That in and of itself is a joke. Remember that in World War II we broke the German and Japanese crypto programs by simply gaining access to their machines. The only way we were able to stay fairly secure was using the Commanches in Europe and Navajo in the Pacific area to speak in their native tounges. Of course, the native tounges were still around only because those and many other tribes refused, even with beatings, privation and so on, to give them up. Using a new language, not the new one that Microsoft is developing since that will be open to the world, but one built by people with expertise in that field, and then shooting them so a single person can't upset the apple cart, ala Egyptians during the tomb building periods and the Roman Praetorian Guard knocking off, or creating situations where a person calling himself Cesear committed suicide. That won't work of course since the Homeland Department will shoot everyone first and ask questions later. The shotgun marriage has very seldom worked. And the Homeland Security Department is a simple shotgun marriage cobbled together by this particular administration with the approval of Congress. That means the six years of Republican rule and the last two of Democrat. Everyone's complicit in the problem and no one, certainly not the office of the President and no one in Congress, is willing to take the fall. The answert\ is to break Homeland Security up, back into the individual departments it once was, give them the original mandates they had, and create a Deparftment of National Security all the while staffing that new department with people expert in the field. Of course that would mean having to pay the people for their expertise, something the United States seems to be loathe to do. Mediocraty leads to mediocare results, thereby allowing someone to give himself/herself a C, certainly passing, but not very well. And that person has true reason to be proud of that C, since the cobble is unweildy and the best the person can hope for is mediocraty.
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by panthecat September 17, 2008 9:02 PM PDT
I?ve felt considerably more insecure ever since this country got stuck with the Department of Homeland Stupidity. I?m all for having it disestablished. they?ve had all this time to get their act together and all they do is flounder. FEMA used to be a functional agency before they got stuck inside of this dysfunctional cluster of a department and now they are an abysmal failure. Do you have the nerve to sign a petition?
http://www.petitiononline.com/zy98xw76/petition.html
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by Michael Grogan September 17, 2008 10:56 PM PDT
All the DHS is good for is spying on honest citizens. Like everything Bush has created it never had anything to do with terrorism.
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by September 18, 2008 1:21 AM PDT
agreed!
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