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Comments on: New magazine-sharing site escapes copyright laws abroad

A new site that lets users share digital copies of magazines conveniently slips around U.S. copyright laws by hosting its domain name and servers abroad.

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by magicmaster August 15, 2008 7:05 PM PDT
Bush Administration conventional response: "If you do not prosecute those offenders, we will declare war on you."
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by William Crow August 15, 2008 8:17 PM PDT
What a stupid statement.
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by humanssssss August 15, 2008 9:42 PM PDT
Interesting development. The idea of copyright is now challenged and changed with ever changing technological advances.
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by mcugaedu August 16, 2008 7:03 AM PDT
I think the key point is that they are redistributing the advertisements along with the magazines. Magazine publishers should think long and hard about whether they really want to block this. More people are viewing the ads, thus increasing the magazines' profit potential. Magazines make their money off advertising, not off ink and paper. In fact, if I were running a magazine and somebody wanted to distribute it for me free, I'd let them!

It's like cable TV, which does the TV stations a favor.

Publishers: Insist that they include the original ads, and on that condition, let them do it.
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by skillingssucks August 16, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
Great site. Eff U, Time Warner!
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by mrbonaparte August 16, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
I can read these magazines for free in a doctors office or in the library for free. Big deal.
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by Inconnux August 16, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
thanks! i just bookmarked the site :)
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by Pete Bardo August 16, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
Anyone experienced in publishing and magazine circulation knows that magazines are driven by advertising, not subscription or newsstand sales. Circulation departments are lucky to break even on promotion costs compared to revenue. Sometimes, not often, renewal subscriptions will make up for the loss, but in all cases new subscription prospecting is a net loss. So, in reality, the magazines can make more money by distributing magazines online for free-but only if the circulation numbers can be audited and verified. Advertisers are not likely to pay for the circulation through web sites like this unless the extra expense produces extra revenue that can be quantified and proven.

Maybe if the ads were clickable and led to the advertisers' web sites the response could be measured and turn out to be advantageous to the advertisers. That would lead to more revenue for the magazines. But this type of distribution will not increase the magazines' revenue until some of this nature takes place.

Hey, those magazines you read in the library and in doctors' offices are free-but only one person at a time can read the print copy--unless I'm sitting next to you reading over your shoulder (which I freely admit I do).
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by helroth August 16, 2008 2:24 PM PDT
Magazines make their money off advertising, yes, but they are not making any money off the pirated copies of the magazines on this site. The advertisers may make some money, but the magazine publishers can't really charge them more just because pirated versions are online.

In fact, people could cancel their subscriptions and just read the pirated versions, giving the magazines less paid ("official") circulation. That means they will get less money from advertisers, not more.
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by expatincebu August 16, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
Thanks Wired for letting me in on this site. It is terrific.
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by skillingssucks August 16, 2008 3:05 PM PDT
Ummm, this is Cnet.
by Astinsan August 17, 2008 8:02 AM PDT
I don't see a problem with this since you can do the same thing with most public libraries online systems. Can someone tell me what the difference is? Also ... magazines aren't fun to read on a screen...

There was a comment about magazines not making money on the sale of the magazines itself... this is untrue. Not all magazines have ads in them or at least it isn't subsidized all with ads. Time, wall street journal and a lot of the tech magazines (hackin9,linux+ come to mind 100$ a year for like 6 mags). There is advertising ... not nearly enough to cover all of the expenses needed to publish.
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by 2008TB August 19, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
There are plenty of free web magazines already that make their money from advertising alone. See http://www.digi-zines.com for a whole load of them.

Not all print titles make back their cost from advertising though. A lot require newsstand sales to survive.
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by alektraunic August 25, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
I feel bad for the illustrators, photographers, and writers that will see no benefit from this at all. their commissions got paid based on that single print run, now their efforts go on to benefit others forever in digital form while they are left to pinch their pennies.
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