Comments on: Oracle's Ellison wants to be in hardware

Larry Ellison, Oracle's CEO, plans to keep both Sun's server and chip businesses and optimize them for running Oracle software.

[Mr. Dee]

Its moments like this I say thank God for Bill Gates and his ruthlessness during the 90's. If it were not for his competitiveness and willingness to fight the good fight, we would have to put up with obnoxious individuals like Steve Jobs and Larry 'the devil' Ellison charging us an arm and a leg along with our souls to use their rather crappy platforms. I hope something spectacular happens where the SUN deal just goes sour and Microsoft destroys them in the process. Sorry, but I just hate arrogant, weird people like Jobs and Ellison with their devil looking eyebrows.

[1g2j]

Agreed!

[TxTom21]

"Devil looking eyebrows"..."Crappy platforms"...

Mac doing quite well, Apple very healthy, iPod the dominant player (no pun) in its field, the iPhone setting the standard to which others TRY reach.

Not knowing you, I'd have to speculate either jingoism or jealousy.

[ghaff]

Leaving aside the comments about specific individuals and companies... I agree that the shift to horizontal integration (not just Microsoft Windows but also Intel, the x86 architecture in general, open communications standards, storage that could be used across a wide variety of system platforms, etc.) radically reduced costs to end users. And, even if we are seeing a certain swing back to more vertically integrated companies, it's vertical integration within the context of a lot more interoperability and volume economics than we saw previously.

[Mr. Dee]

I am not a jingoist, I am simply trying to state, these same people we over respect and consider to be the good guys fighting for openness and better alternatives are simply foxes trying to get in a hen house that they only managed to get a hold of a few who were outside. Steve Jobs and Larry want to control the entire experience. Tell me now, how is that an open approach that users and businesses can agree with? You would be subjected to the vendors every wrath! I can't see Apple owning 90% of the desktop, I can't see Larry owning the Datacenter, but that is what they have in mind. We see what Apple can do with the iPhone, third party developers are constantly complaining about the App Store approval process, Oracle customers are constantly complaining about the cost of licensing their software. Sorry, but Microsoft is the best and I think we should accept that and just move forward with our lives.

[idfubar]

Dude, seriously? No one wants to ask Mr. Dee (a) if can actually account for what he "pays" for and (b) what sort of an understanding of "cost" he has?

PS: Your use of "them" is unqualified (Oracle or Sun Microsystems?) and your ad-hominem attack on the appearance of two people you've probably never met gives you yourself an air of arrogance; get a clue.