Comments on: Oracle buys Sun: The big picture

With the Oracle-Sun applications portfolio, this looks like a serious play to vertically integrate--surpassing what even IBM offers directly, for the most part.

[tipoo_]

I still cant get over how ingenious Sun's logo is!

[Dalmatian28]

ha...you think Sun's logo is the issue! Wait until Oracle dumps 10,000 of Suns employees into the unemployment line...good luck finding a job!!! This is what I really hate about acquisitions .... couple reach people get even richer and poor working class gets f****d every time! Who needs more unemployed people???

[spreadsmile]

what happens to MySQL then???

[ghaff]

A good question. Exactly what happens with both MySQL and Glassfish (both in theory and in practice) is something that wasn't mentioned in this morning's call and which I consider an open question.

[Random_Walk]

Oracle either maintains it, or Google and IBM will fork+swipe it.

Next question?

[scawa]

What about ALL the Open Source and Community Source projects from Sun:
1) Java - I know Oracle was a big backer of Java from the start... but will Larry mess with it to suit his needs.
2) MySQL - An open source DB that can compete with Oracle DB? I think it won't survive.
3) Open Office - What better way for Oracle to Dig at Microsoft!!!!!
4) VirtualBox - I don't know about this one.
5) All the Java Support Forums at Sun which are FREE, but you have to pay for the Oracle Support forums. MMMM?
6) There are tons of other freebies that Sun supports (which is possibly why they went belly up). Where will those projects go.


I have been a Java Programmer since 1996, but I think this may kill the freedom that Java enjoys. Or maybe it will just move over to IBM...... I guess it's time to learn Python or Ruby.... Or maybe Smalltalk will come back.... BTW Dalmatian.... I think IBM and other tech companies will pick up the slack on the Sun Employees let go (it may take a while, but Sun employees are innovative and won't be with out a job long. They may have to move, but....)

[Mr. Dee]

Just commented on this over at the acquisition post:
I thought this was an April fools joke. Heh, anyway, I think they share that same philosophy, to destroy Microsoft, but they might just destroy each other in the process. With Larry now owning an equal in almost everything Microsoft does, he must feel extra good about himself. Oracle Solaris, doesn't role off the tongue quite well. I hope existing SUN customers are ready to be charged dry and be forced to consume offerings they are not willing to pay for. 'If you don't buy Oracle Solaris 11 with Oracle 12g, you won't get xyz!"

I assume Oracle will be phasing out the Unbreakable Linux gimmick and replace it with Solaris for half the price. As for MySQL, I see that being Oracles way of getting its tentacles into the OpenSource Community through OpenSolaris and allow customers to start out and move to the supported solutions such as Solaris and Oracle DB.

Other possible acquisitions I see happening in the near future:
Google buying Yahoo!
AMD/ATI merging with nVidia
IBM merging with Microsoft

[gigawho]

All I want to know is what this buy will mean for MySql? I'd hate to think that they would trash it.

[tauvix]

Not only MySQL, but also offerings like VirtualBox.

[aMUSICsite]

It will bring Oracle into the small business market, with MySQL, something they have not really done before. Also into the consumer market with Java.

It could be one of the best things to have happened, or could turn into one of the worst! Time will tell.

[scdecade]

HP and Cisco will both attempt to buy SAP.

[Mr. Dee]

Nah, can't see them doing that, just doesn't look like their forte. I see Microsoft or IBM acquiring SAP, possibly even SAP merging with Redhat and integrate with their JBOSS offering. What I see CISCO doing is purchasing Novell while HP create its own Linux distro.

[Matthew_Goldman]

This is not to say that Oracle may not divest or shutter segment's of Sun's portfolio that don't post the right kind of financial return.

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[ghaff]

Thanks! Fixed.

[hypercomms2001]

What does this mean for Open Office?

[ghaff]

TBD. There's no obvious business fit for OpenOffice at Oracle. (As indeed there hasn't been for a while at Sun.) IMO a foundation structure of some sort is where it probably needs to get to.

[igal_alkon]

do't care what they do, just don't take MySQL & Netbeans away! it's my main development tools!