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Comments on: Hold off on Firefox version 3

Don't be in a rush to install new software, any new software

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by manchildThe June 17, 2008 6:11 PM PDT
chicken.
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by GlennW007 June 17, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
I like Firefox. I just have other things to do on a worknite. I'll download FF3 on Saturday. Play some tunes on the stereo while it downloads. Meantime. I'll let all the early adopters find all the bugs. Have fun with the new FF!
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by ofst3d June 18, 2008 3:16 AM PDT
I shall be holding off. Firefox 3 crashed repeatedly on installation. I had to do a complete uninstall and reinstall v2.
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by PCn00b64 June 18, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
The thing about Firefox, it's open source, isn't it? People are supposed to test it out by trying it out, sending error reports... "Do not download firefox 3, not today" Give me a effin' break they're just saying that because it's Firefox 3 download day. It's not like Internet Explorer is better in ANY way.
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by big.mouth June 18, 2008 12:08 PM PDT
Free ride on the misery of others? That's your advice? Perhaps you should encourage people to litter, while you're at it...
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by letsgethightech June 18, 2008 2:23 PM PDT
Don't read Michael Horowitz's crappy commentary. Not today. not for awhile!
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by letsgethightech June 18, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Don't read Michael Horowitz's crappy commentary. Not today. not for awhile!
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by atinaebud June 18, 2008 3:00 PM PDT
Maybe I am lucky but I had no problem with XP SP3, Vista SP1, and Firefox3. They all downloaded quickly the first time with no problems. Maybe it is luck but it can be done......of course so can the horror stories; this is just my own experience for whatever it is worth.
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by cmsb1214 June 18, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
I disagree with waiting completely. I have been using Firefox since beta 4 and I believe it is more stable than Firefox 2 ever was. People have been working out bugs in the browser for more than half a year and there are no big problems with the browser any more. The only problem at all is that many add ons will not work with Firefox 3 yet but in a couple of weeks, they will most likely work. I have been using the browser for months without my add ons and I think it is worth it to go without them in light of the new version's features. Quite simply, just download now. This browser has no problems to worry about.
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by make_or_break June 18, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
If there are bugs, they haven't been apparent to me. FF3 in its official release form has been better than the two release candidate iterations I previously tried, and it IS noticeably faster than the most recent iteration of FF2, Mozilla's non-entertaining imitation of a slug on phenobarbital.
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by shadowhywind June 21, 2008 6:06 AM PDT
all new software contains bugs and design flaws. Let the rest of the world debug it for you.

IF everyone would just sit back and "let the rest of the world debug it for you". Then no one would ever find the bugs since no one would ever test the program. I was on an IRC channel about 2 years when amd64 and linux (ubuntu) were slightly knew, I stated that maybe i will wait a while and stick with a 32-bit version, and someone pointed out to me. That if everyone would wait then say in 6-months nothing would be changed and all the bugs would still be there.
In order to find and fix all of the bugs we need people to take that chance, and to use the program. That is the only way to find all of them
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by make_or_break June 21, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
FF3 lasted about a day and a half on this machine. Which is too bad, because initially it looked so promising. And FAST. But it didn't last. Whether it's a machine problem or FF3 itself (I tend to believe the latter, since none of the betas and release candidates have performed well), it's back to FF2. The complaints of unfound, lost pages and certain popular sites taking forever to load was too much for me to take. Even after I disabled all of the add-ons FF3 still was having issues. Neither IE7, Safari or Opera was having these issues; only FF3. And since uninstalling FF3, now FF2 has become somewhat glitchy. Frankly, it sucks that the browser I support the most is making itself the one I want to use the least.
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by Samuel Wat June 21, 2008 6:25 PM PDT
I don't know what you guys give very little credit to new technology. Take Windows Vista for instince. I've used this OS for several months and I have not ran into a single problem with software incompatibilty, blue screens, security defense problems, the whole nine yards. "Embrace new technology, as you will either way later on."
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by Bernielj77 October 18, 2008 9:47 AM PDT
I'm looking for the guy who said to me that I should once again try Firefox 3, as I had stated that FF3 would crash on me from one to three times per day, but it may be on another forum and not here, so I'll keep looking for his post because I had uninstalled FF3.0 for a while because of crashes, then I downloaded it later, which upgraded to FF3.0.2 I think, but in any case, it still crashed on me often, so I again went back to FF2.0.0.12 which upgraded to FF2.0.0.14 I think. In any case, yesterday I downloaded FF3.0.3 and it crashed on me three times within three hours, and even though I still have FF3.0.3 installed, if it continues to crash, I'll go back to FF2.0.0.14, which might even be 2.0.0.17 now. I don't see any advantages between FF2 and FF3, except for a few more features, and extensions or plug-ins, etc., like the colored tabs for example, but I didn't notice anything major with it otherwise, and in fact three of the old extensions aren't even compatible with FF3, and FF3 doesn't seem to be any faster than FF2 on this 2.1 Ghz Compaq Presario. I was getting the "AUS.........Malformed....." message telling me that the automatic updates weren;t working, but even though I tried their "solutions" to the problem, it didn't solve that problem. However, when I checked the way that Firefox made connections to the Internet, I had found that the "auto-detect" was turned on, and once I went to the "No Proxy" option, because I use Broadband, the problem didn't "crop up" after that. I'll try FF3.0.3 for a while, but if it keeps crashing on me, I'll go back to FF2 for a while...it may be because of the setting that caused the crashes..."Tools," Options," "Advanced," "Network," and then "Settings" is the way to that setting, in case you don't know how to "get there from here" so to speak, in case you're having the "AUS.......Malformed..." problem too.
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by Bernielj77 October 18, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
I just had a thought here, for those of you who are experiencing crashes after upgrading to FF3 from FF2, I'd check that setting, the one for "Proxies," and if you're using a DSL or Cable modem, make sure that the proxy is set to "No Proxies," instead of either the "Auto-Detect proxies for this network," or the "Manual Proxy Setting," as it may help to eliminate the crashing, or what you could do is go through the DSL or Cable-Modem manual to more or less go through the process of setting the web browser up, but doing that might mess things up for you, or that may be unnecessary, especially if all that needed to be done is to reset the proxy setting to the "No Proxy" setting. If memory serves me correctly, for Internet Explorer, the correct procedure there is to uncheck all of the boxes, so they aren't even checked, plus you also check the box where it says never to dial, if you're using Broadband, if you also have a telephone modem card in your computer so the computer doesn't try to dial a connection to the Internet. Just a thought, take it "with a grain of sand" so to speak. By the way, my three crashes occurred when on a web site, then clicking on a link to go to another page of the same web site, and maybe one time when it was a hyperlink to another web site...that's when I'd receive the crashes. Have a Great Day, Bernard
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