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Matt, Your a BoneHead...
by ghold4 September 8, 2007 6:15 PM PDT
Matt, Your a BoneHead...
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Matt, Your a BoneHead...
by ghold4 September 8, 2007 6:15 PM PDT
Matt, Your a BoneHead...
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Truly, no good deed goes unpunished
by Matt Asay September 9, 2007 7:55 AM PDT
But I think you meant "you're" not "your." And I'm not sure either the "B" or the "H" should have been capitalized. But then, as a bonehead, what do I know? ;-)
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Truly, no good deed goes unpunished
by Matt Asay September 9, 2007 7:55 AM PDT
But I think you meant "you're" not "your." And I'm not sure either the "B" or the "H" should have been capitalized. But then, as a bonehead, what do I know? ;-)
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Novell may be doing good in Open Source
by ian.waring September 9, 2007 9:26 AM PDT
... and their lawyers carry my highest respect on the SCO issues at the moment.

However, I wonder whether their Open Source sales figures are going to come out of a coma they've been in for at least 2 years. This is never ending source of bemusement for me; for a product that's so good, why are so few customers choosing to pay Novell money for it?

The only signs of life are sleights of hand on large direct deals where Novell will throw in SUSE as a freebee when the end customers wants to license Netware, Groupwise or their Identity Management software - and even when they do, we see little uptake of the SUSE portion. Or more recently MS offering free coupons - and no apparent SUSE take-up there also.

Commercial Linux looks to be a one horse race, and Novell (and Oracle for that matter) look to be no-where - not even a dot on the horizon in currency terms. Unless anyone knows differently...

Ian W.
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Novell may be doing good in Open Source
by ian.waring September 9, 2007 9:26 AM PDT
... and their lawyers carry my highest respect on the SCO issues at the moment.

However, I wonder whether their Open Source sales figures are going to come out of a coma they've been in for at least 2 years. This is never ending source of bemusement for me; for a product that's so good, why are so few customers choosing to pay Novell money for it?

The only signs of life are sleights of hand on large direct deals where Novell will throw in SUSE as a freebee when the end customers wants to license Netware, Groupwise or their Identity Management software - and even when they do, we see little uptake of the SUSE portion. Or more recently MS offering free coupons - and no apparent SUSE take-up there also.

Commercial Linux looks to be a one horse race, and Novell (and Oracle for that matter) look to be no-where - not even a dot on the horizon in currency terms. Unless anyone knows differently...

Ian W.
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Soccer advice
by cbcalvin September 9, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Your daughter told you, the guy she trusts the most, 80%. She probably already factored in the stuff she knows she could have done better. Remind her to focus on the game during the game, trust your dad, tell the coach you did your best. If the coach is a good one, (s)he already knows what your daughter could have done better and will arrange the practices to build the required skills along with those of her teammates.
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Soccer advice
by cbcalvin September 9, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Your daughter told you, the guy she trusts the most, 80%. She probably already factored in the stuff she knows she could have done better. Remind her to focus on the game during the game, trust your dad, tell the coach you did your best. If the coach is a good one, (s)he already knows what your daughter could have done better and will arrange the practices to build the required skills along with those of her teammates.
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Novell/SUSE and the Linux Desktop
by apokryphos September 9, 2007 6:01 PM PDT
Compiz/Xgl are only skimming the surface of the stuff that Novell have done, though I don't think I've ever heard Ubuntu being credited with that anywhere. Ubuntu is really more of a packaging distribution, where SUSE is really all about innovation.

SUSE still employ more developers to directly work on KDE and GNOME than any other distributor out there. And not just any developers, as you correctly mentioned -- they're contributing _good_ open source code. I mean, in KDE for example 3 of the 7 people on the KDE Technical board are from SUSE. Two of the people on the KDE e.V. board are also SUSE employees.

They have developers working on the Kernel, X.org, OpenOffice.org, GCC, ALSA, you name it. They were the main driving force in porting Linux to amd64, and they're by far the most serious corporation who are really actively trying to push the Linux desktop into the enterprise. They are certainly without a doubt one of the biggest and most consistent contributors to open source software ever.

As for the Novell-MS deal: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
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Novell/SUSE and the Linux Desktop
by apokryphos September 9, 2007 6:01 PM PDT
Compiz/Xgl are only skimming the surface of the stuff that Novell have done, though I don't think I've ever heard Ubuntu being credited with that anywhere. Ubuntu is really more of a packaging distribution, where SUSE is really all about innovation.

SUSE still employ more developers to directly work on KDE and GNOME than any other distributor out there. And not just any developers, as you correctly mentioned -- they're contributing _good_ open source code. I mean, in KDE for example 3 of the 7 people on the KDE Technical board are from SUSE. Two of the people on the KDE e.V. board are also SUSE employees.

They have developers working on the Kernel, X.org, OpenOffice.org, GCC, ALSA, you name it. They were the main driving force in porting Linux to amd64, and they're by far the most serious corporation who are really actively trying to push the Linux desktop into the enterprise. They are certainly without a doubt one of the biggest and most consistent contributors to open source software ever.

As for the Novell-MS deal: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
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