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Forrester outlines the adoption pattern for open source within an enterprise, which seems to loosely follow Gandhi's pattern for successful nonviolent resistance.

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by cvaldes1831 May 21, 2009 9:58 PM PDT
Here are the main stumbling blocks to widespread open source software acceptance: excessive system administration load, lousy device driver support, and horrible end-user documentation. I have a Unix background and ran Linux for four years (and was paid to do Linux system administration).

I've also ran Mac OS X for seven years. I've spent less OS X sysadmin time in those seven years than my first month running Linux (Red Hat, if you're curious).

Don't get me wrong, OSS is a great concept on paper. The realworld execution by diehard proponents is sometimes so utterly botched, you wonder why anyone would want to be associated with such a debacle. Even if OSS developers could fix the sysadmin and device driver issues, the documentation quality issue remains an extremely sore spot for OSS pundits.
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by hozelda May 22, 2009 9:34 AM PDT
cvaldes1831:

Documentation is a sore spot? What does that have to do with FOSS? I'm really tempted to think you are blowing much smoke.

Yet perhaps you have identified an area where the growing FOSS businesses have yet to fully embrace. Given how many still waste time on Windows instead of embracing the future, I can't help but to think that it's still not too late to build up a business with FOSS [of course it's not too late].

And by "documentation", I presume you mean fancy brochures. Otherwise, I can say you really haven't looked around or are generalizing beyond what serves your readers. FOSS does grow fast and businesses to serve FOSS are not keeping up at this point in time (too much wasting of time with Windows or with outdated Windows-like ways is my guess). Of course, FOSS provides the ultimate documentation: source code. Those that deal closely with software and grow it can really appreciate that. Also, Wikipedia gives an example of how a lot of future core FOSS documentation development is likely to occur. Wikipedia has been very successful.

I won't comment on the driver support complaint since I haven't bought every device out there or looked at a comprehensive study, but I suspect you are off the mark here as well and decided to generalize out from certain weak areas while ignoring areas where FOSS has very strong device support.

And finally there is "excessive system administration load". What do you mean by that? Again, because some areas are weak, you generalize, I suspect.

The main problem you highlighted is solved several times through once the network effect brings over most nontech users to Linux. When you have mostly techies, they will communicate at the techy level. This is changing, but it's still largely true (at least as concerns direct contributions). This will change. In fact, tomorrow's FOSS documentation will indulge in multimedia "source code". It will take wikipedia to an even higher level.

Adapt to and leverage Linux+FOSS or get run over by the masses. That's my advice to you cvaldes1831.
by cvaldes1831 May 22, 2009 10:24 AM PDT
Ahahahahahaha!!!!
by hozelda May 25, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
I did not realize my friendly if cautionary comment would have caused you to drop your marbles, cvaldes1831.

I get pretty good laughs when I think about the response proprietary vendors might give as to why they don't allow their customers to acquire their source code.

Why treat every customer like they are the enemy?

What is Vista source going for nowadays, $2,000,000,000,000?

Ha
haha
hahahaha!

Microsoft should be paying people to walk into the Vista trap.

Anyway, Red Hat source code is still $0, I believe. And you can probably get the binaries by building them yourself or grabbing a copy of CentOS Linux.

And glossy documentation still has nothing to do with being open source. Neither do administration tools. Neither does anything else you mentioned.

The sanatorium taught you little about open source.
by syampillai May 26, 2009 4:13 AM PDT
4 years using Linux. May I ask you what were you running on those machines that created so much of system admin work?
7 years using MacOS
I wonder what system admin one does on a MacOS!! It is pretty much everything fixed there. Not much flexibility.
I haven't seen MacOS used as servers in any environment!!!
I'm remotely managing 60+ Linux servers and I haven't visited the data center for months :)
Something was really wrong the way you were doing stuff there.
by hozelda May 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
Surprise surprise.

According to this http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/organizations_find_switch_from_windows_better_than_expected , the biggest thing holding Linux back isn't driver issues or any of the other things cvaldes1831 mentioned. Rather, its the fear that comes from reading comments like cvaldes1831's.

Fear is holding Linux back. Who'd thunk it?
by FlatCake May 22, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
I can't help to get you wrong... you are full of poo, and you speak like a FUDster.
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by You_betcha May 22, 2009 6:53 PM PDT
Matt, you usually have high quality ideas in your blog. Not in this one. First, the quote is from Mohandas Gandhi. Second, Forrester's five stages are exactly the well known and general bereavement syndrome in psychology. This has not much value.
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by hozelda May 25, 2009 6:24 PM PDT
You_betcha, did Matt get the wrong Gandhi? And do you not see the connections between the fives stages and Gandhi's saying as applied to open source?
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