Comments on: In the heart of Texas, a mayor goes 'green'

Will Wynn, the mayor of Austin, is on the vanguard of defining what a green city can be.
Photos: Austin builds on green concepts

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Biofuels are not the answer

The article vaguely states that Austin is pushing emissions reductions through the use of biofuels. Using crops for biofuels are raising the price of food worldwide which is already affecting the poor. Farmers are already destroying rain forest in order to plant crops that can be sold as biofuels. Finally and most importantly, you have to put in more energy into growing and harvesting biofuel crops than you get out when you burn them in vehicles.

http://www.theecologist.org/archive_detail.asp?content_id=755

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/03/27/a-lethal-solution/

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/05/22/corn.html

[dondarko]

you're right but...

the essential problem is the lack of reliable, efficient and speedy public transportation. Anywhere you look in Europe you are able to hop on the tram, subway or a bus and get to where you need to be in a timely manner. I live in Louisville, KY and my work is about 5 miles from my house. By car it is a 5-10 min drive depending on the traffic. With the local bus (to which I have to walk to if I wanted to take it) the stop is like 2 miles from my house and if I do walk to get on it it takes me another 45 mins to get to my work, and even then I have to walk a mile. My work and house are on major throughways so it doesn't make sense that it would take me well over an hour, counting the walking, to get to work.

so...problem with the public transportation(or lack thereof) and the way we design our communities. We keep moving further and further out for the sake of privacy and other silly reasons and builders accomodate the demand. I would rather live in a place where everything is accessible than where I have to drive miles upon miles to get to work, go grocery shopping, etc.

P.S. Wind, solar, thermal and hyrdo are the best bets for renewable energy. As for the transportation we just need to have high efficiency batteries developed that will enable us to get very good range with cars. Not to mention a way to quickly charge those batteries.

When it comes to car automakers need to create aerodynamic bodies(on top of batteries mentioned above) along with using the cars velocity and air drag that it creates for good use. For example car driving on the highway can generate electricity by having small wind generators where today's radiator is(remeber with batteries there would be no heat, or fuel cells, whatever it is).

Just some quick random food for thought.

cheers

[C_G_K]

Like they say...

don't trust anyone from Austin or Boston. I am starting to think there is some truth to that old saying. This guy is a true believer in the boogey man of climate change. What a waste of time and money when there are REAL problems to be solved.

[dondarko]

what?

think about it..

how is our air cleaner(less CO2 which causes cancer :D ) when there is like a billion cars, trucks, airplanes, trains spewing out absurd amounts of CO2 and other pollutants? are you trying to say that today's air is as clean as it was back in 1600s?

Is our water as clean as it was back in 1600s with 6.5 billion people in the world taking a crap, lets say at least once a week, and all the doodoo going into the river and oceans, as opposed to back in 1600s when the crap went into soil as a fertilizer the way it was meant to be?

Are you saying our lands are cleaner today then in 1600s with millions upon millions of toxic chemicals going into it just from computer waste, not counting other crap we put into it?

are you saying that our foods are healthier today with all the chemical preservatives and toxic chemicals used for growing then in 1600s?

any person with an IQ of 1 can say NO to your argument that environmental pollution is a quack. Remember global warming is pollution of huge amounts of unnatural CO2 created by human beings.

It's people like you who are dismissing today's warnings and science of global warming and pollution in general, who were burning people at the stake and cutting heads of for practicing early science for centuries. Yet you still use products and benefits of science every day.

[dondarko]

one more thing...

why dont you turn your car on in your garage while it is closed and just sit in there. I mean it's clean and harmful so knock yourself out.

Go drink from your local river. Don't worry you say it's clean (based on ur dismissal of global warming I am assuming you're dismissing all other pollution results we're seeing today.)

[dondarko]

or even better..

just move next to a coal fired plant. I mean it's clean, healthy and good for you. then come back here and comment with your nonsense as much as you want when you get a hard earned cacner from that plant.

[chassoto--2008]

I live in Austin...

Will Wynn speaks mostly the truth. I've personally taken advantage of the Austin Energy conservation programs. I have a 0% interest loan to replace the ancient furnace my house had when I bought it. The AC has a much higher SEER value, and combined with the energy efficiency things they did (wrapping ducts, sealing cracks, weatherstripping, insulation and solar screens) HALVED my summer electric bills. I WOULD have recovered the cost of the upgrades by the time the 5-year loan was paid off. I said "WOULD have" because shortly after, natural gas prices quadrupled in Texas, so much of the savings seen in the summer were eaten up in the winter.

Where Will Wynn is off the mark is that the city itself is promoting a disastrous transportation situation because of its own annexation and expansion into nearby territory. By annexing all the way to "the sticks," they are required to bring city services to those areas. Well, all of a sudden, it's trivial for a developer to clear a bunch of old live oak patches and build a "planned community" complete with strip malls and traffic congestion. All of the extra traffic and traffic jams will easily outpace any emissions saved through energy efficiency. Developers like Wynn are to blame, but we should hold city government accountable for allowing that.

[C_G_K]

Ulterior Motives

Perhaps it would be better to say never trust any POLITICIAN from Austin or Boston. Anyway, just as a lot of boneheaded laws and programs have been brought in under the guise of fighting terrorism (like not allowing drug importation from Canada because terrorists may smuggle in WMD's in pill bottles), a lot of boneheaded laws and programs are being brought in under the guise of fighting global warming (carbon credits is a good example). If you scratch below the surface, there is usually some political motivation at work. Of course in the case of drug importation, it was the drug lobby trying to stop it behind the scenes. In the same way, friends and lobbyists of politicians who bring in these "global warming" programs stand to benefit. Don't be naive to this sort of political sleight of hand.

[avfolk--2008]

Hype vs Reality Mr. Mayor!!!

The only green that our mayor is into is bucks from the very
developers who have turned Austin into a money-grubbing,
developer-driven, strawling, traffic-clogged metropolis where
'open government' is open only to developers and other monied
interests who profit only from turning Austin into a 'greener' LA.

As an Austinite for 40 years, I have observed that during Mr.
Wynn's tenure that:

-We are allowing our free-spending MTA to build a 'green' light
rail system while its budget doubles, and projected completion
and utilizatiojn stumbles.

-Downtown is overtaken with 'green' condos and businesses.
Like the new GREEN Whole Foods that has turned an entire
quadrant of downtown into a traffic nightmare for most of the
day.

-Developers are overbuilding in quaint neighborhoods, cutting
age-old trees and burdening our crumbling utility systems.

-We are so GREEN that the EPA has directed HUGE daily per/spill
fines until Austin fixes it's crumblin wastewater lines.

-Oh and Mr. Wynn is allowing WASTEWATER lines to be buried
UNDER our fabled BARTON CREEK GREENBELT. How green is
sewerage?

-Our astronomical tax base and utlities are providing the
INCENTIVES that Austin uses to bring us new people to but the
half million dollar condos the mayor seems so proud of.

-Meanwhile he touts our healthy lifestyle. Parks are crumbling,
city employee waste and overtime are at record highs, and our
libraries and social services suffer.

I have no idea what he can see thru the tinted windows of his
city vehicle -- but his 'progress' and motives are GREEDY not
GREEN.

The fact the Mr. Wynn has the nerve to tout his
'accomplishments' nationally, only indicates that his developer
buddies have some unsold condos -- and they're lookin for
more suckers.

WELCOME TO AUSTIN.

[babylovr]

The real problem is

not so much whether or not our Mayor is truly believing the *Global Warming* nonsense or if he is just trying to look good and make a buck for himself or his buddies; the problem is that he is trying to use his office and the laws to micromanage the personal lives of the citizens in the community. I am all for living a life which is harmonious with the earth and our fellow creatures and for promoting a culture which is respectful of all life, but trying to force others to take on financial burdens so that they will be living the way you think they should is not the way to make things better.

I'm glad the mayor is happy living in his little condo-box; my four children enjoy actually having a yard and a garden and trees. If our mayor is serious about making the world a better, cleaner place, there are much better ways of going about it -- for instance, how many pollutants are put into the air from parents driving their children to school? Perhaps it would be better to close down the schools; schools do use a lot of energy with all the lights and air conditioning, not to mention all the paper...plus there are the school buses, and I don't think all the teachers and administrators have eco-friendly vehicles either...

It's easy for the mayor to try to put burdens on the private home-owner -- it won't affect him! Most people actually do want to save money and most of us don't want to be adding pollution to the environment; for the most part, it's not the private citizen who is causing the problem -- I didn't set up the system whereby we use drinking water in our toilets, nor did I design any of the other aspects of our societal structure which pollute our planet, so why is our mayor wanting to hold me accountable for the environmental problems?

This is not a good way for him to make friends of his constituents.