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It's like Home Depot but for energy efficiency. Standard Renewable and Conergy are building a chain for green tech.

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Should Al Gore install Solar Panels in Tennessee?
by Manhattan2 May 2, 2007 12:36 PM PDT
The answer is no, and our research tells us that a Solar Transfer into the Arizonia, Nevada or a California region would net Mr. Gore 4 times more power. SolarTransfer, it is time we do this renewable energy production the right way. We try to explain this at www.SolarTransfer.com
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Terrible presentation
by esteinke May 4, 2007 9:01 AM PDT
I went to your website and it sucked.
Take a tech comm class.
start with an overview or give me some idea of what your product is.
I closed the brower by the third font change.
Should Al Gore instal solar panels on his back side?
by the1kingarthur May 2, 2007 10:11 PM PDT
The way his jaws flap he is sure to run out of energey sooner or later. Maybe a solor panel mounted on his backwould help. or what about all that methane he produces could be used to generate electricity, or power those wfast acting lips.
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Non-AC Payback Time
by billmosby May 3, 2007 3:37 AM PDT
I find just not using the AC at all has a very short payback time.
Until I was about 10 years old we had no AC at all, and that was
in Houston where both the temp and the humidity were
somewhere in the 90s in the summer. After we got central air,
the contrast between indoor and outdoor temp made playing
outside suddenly a lot less appealing. I like it better overall
without AC and have not generally used it since moving from
Houston while still in my teens. The payback time for not using
AC in the first place is about zero months, I suppose. I further
thatsuppose one day the heat will kill me, but it will probably be
like lying down for a nap and not waking up. Could be worse,
and at the same time will lessen my carbon footprint, on
average. What could be greener than that!
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There's a sucker born every minute.
by the1kingarthur May 4, 2007 3:06 AM PDT
As the great showman P. T. Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every minute."

Just like recycling and Earth Day. Developing and promoting Alternate energy sources are just a fad that Standard Renewable Energy and Conergy are taking advantage of. And worse yet taking advantage of illiterate people whose only goal is to jump on the current band wagon for the sake of being popular, or with being with the "IN" crowd.

Where was all this concern 20 years ago? Why wait till the oil companies raped every man, woman, and child in this nation? Those who had any influence and could have done something to stop, or at least slowed the oil companies down didn?t give a dam about the middle income, and poverty stricken citizens of this nation because they could afford gasoline.

When Earth Day was conceived there was a great movement across the nation to study and develop alternate energy sources, and to utilize "Earth Friendly" products. It was "COOL" to be part of Earth Day, and recycling. Money was being poured into recycling, and alternate energy research. Parties, expos, people climbing the social ladder, and those once considered out siders now found their selves a way to mingle with the "beautiful people."

"Mandatory" became the favororite word of local and state governments. It was "mandatory" to recycle. It was "mandatory" to use Earth Friendly products. Local and state governments with their tax payer substised programs were laughing all the way to the bank. Not only were they being paid for their services through taxes. They were allowed to keep the profits rather then return them back to the tax payers.

New positions were being developed not because of an actual need, but for a desire to have a ?Title? like in England where if you have enough money, or influence anyone can be a Duke, or an Earl. Positions with huge insane salaries that were not being derived from actual work, or product development, but from the blood, sweat, and tears of the tax payers who for no other reason wanted to be part of the current fad.

Who wouldn't want to own a company where someone else paid your operating expenses, and all your profits went straight into your pocket. A real tragedy which I witnessed and did intense research into was the little known fact, and one that the local and state governments did not want to tell the people about at the time is, the day after mandatory recycling was put into action in all areas across the nation illegal dumping in rivers, forests, and low populated areas increased over 1,000 percent. That?s right, not 10, 20, or even 100 percent. But an increase of over 1,000 percent. Community leaders and mayors of small towns across the nation cried the blues, and attempted to file law suit after law suit to stop mandatory recycling and illegal dumping in favor of education, waste recovery facilities, and volunteer programs. Those who pushed mandatory recycling down the throats of the people could care less, and laughed all the way to the bank. They fought and made ?Mandatory Recycling? LAW!

Then the economy picked up and there was a millionaire born every day, and the price of gasoline was no longer a major concern. The bubble had busted. It was no longer ?cool? or ?in? to recycle, and funding for alternative energy sources dried up all over the nation except for those individuals who had a real concern and motives were....pure. No one gave a dam about alternate energy sources any more because gasoline was fairly affordable. Gas guzzling Hummers and SUVs out sold nearly every other model of vehicle. God it was "cool" to own a Hummer.

Now cities like Ann Arbor Michigan are crying their eyes out because recycling has dropped to levels where it is costing enormous amounts of money to keep their program going, and positions are being eliminated. The people got wise, and instead of GIVING their waste away to someone who was going to take advantage of them. They?re SELLING their waste. Markets opened for paper, cardboard, and other materials. People are starting to learn the wonderful benefits of composting, and growing their own fruits and vegetables.

It seems that the mentality of the American Citizen is to wait until their house or business burns to the ground BEFORE even considering spending one dime toward prevention.

One more thing, don?t think for an instant that the oil companies are not into alternative energy research, and development. The tobacco companies knew years ahead of time that the time was coming when they would be sued, and took enormous steps to protect their selves. That is why RJ Reynolds purchased Nabisco Brands, Inc, and Philip Morris purchased General Foods, and Kraft. If you are like most Americans and hate the oil companies, then you better think twice before you buy that solar panel, or other alternative energy source. You might just be letting the oil industry rape you again, and letting them laugh all the way to the bank.
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Chain Outlet Concept:: Energy Experts--Wouldn't that be great?
by karenschmidt4 January 5, 2008 7:03 PM PST
Why not have energy experts? For the rich and famous? The only business' interested in energy are those that sell it. Three years ago, I wasted 6 months working with contractors, HVAC Pros and local handy people desperately trying to find the RIGHT way to make my less than 3 yr old house, not more energy efficient, but comfortable while I was paying over $700 a month. My bill dropped slightly after simple items were done..caulking windows, sealing doors and rerouting the HVAC (some doofus ran an extra 20 ft of air duct around a 110 degree attic, instead of cutting it to fit) but it wasn't until I gave a 23 yr old engineering student carte blanche to resolve these issues that my bill dropped to just over $200 a month. My Dad would have laughed at the idea of hiring an Energy Expert, but then again, he could replace his own windshielf wipers. My lesson learned..economics drives both the availability of information and the willingness to try new processes. Insulation and electronic thermostats solved my problem. Innovative? Apparently.
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