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Comments on: CERN's big collider now in action

The first particle beam successfully traverses the Large Hadron Collider, the world's largest machine. Still to come: creating mini black holes.

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by Ian Kirkland September 10, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
Of course, the RSS feed headline mentions black holes but they are mentioned anywhere in the article, as should be. As some will know, black holes are not black and are certainly not holes. They are very dense matter: so dense that light and all other matter nearby are sucked in, a kind of uber-gravity. The LHC cannot create black holes, per se.
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by Michichael September 10, 2008 9:47 AM PDT
Ian. No. No, no no. Black holes are not super dense. Nor are they black, they're actually the brightest thing in the galaxy (particles are ionized as they get pulled in). The large black holes do have a large mass and gravitational field that is proportional to that mass under the standard law of gravity.

We've already CREATED black holes.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Possible_black_hole_created_in_US

That experiment is the basis for the black hole creation theory at the LHC.

Yes, black holes will be created, however you'd need a black hole on the mass of Mount Everest to be able to draw in enough mass to fuel the mass-energy-mass conversion that is going to occur, without using itself as fuel. The mass-energy-mass conversion takes mass from this dimension, converts it to pure energy, then condenses it back to mass in another dimension, with the side effect of Hawkings thermal radiation in this dimension.

Please stop talking about things you don't understand. These black holes will consume themselves, they don't have the mass to draw in and consume anything else. They don't have some super gravitational force. It's energy based. Stop.
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by ed-209 September 10, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
Lets hope they discover something amazing or I think ill ask for my money back to give to the starving and homeless.
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by sccpa September 10, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
ed...you're a ******. Staving and homeless people are just lazy a-holes.
by skillingssucks September 10, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
Yeah, I'm sure your $6/hour salary really contributed a lot.
by Sweetpatootie September 10, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
Give it time! LOL!
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by Sweetpatootie September 10, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
Come to think of it, is there any PRACTICAL reason for spending money on this thing???
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by David Gerard September 10, 2008 4:14 PM PDT
@Sweetpatootie: Of course there is! It supplies material for off-colour jokes around unfortunate typos of "hadron". http://tinyurl.com/6nhwlu

More seriously: they said exactly that about the discovery of the electron 100 years ago. Of course, your comment may prove it was a bad idea.
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by Sweetpatootie September 10, 2008 4:36 PM PDT
LOL! You may have a point David. Personally I am immediately suspicious of anything that has 'hardon' in it's name!
by catwizel September 10, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
We once throught the world was flat and yet it took brave sols to prove otherwise to the world under great scrutiny from there piers and this is now different this is what make our spices so great the wiliness to discover and query our existence and yet we have made grave mistake during this time and yes there are staving people around the world but give our discovers time and we will evolve and rectify these problem with time so site back and enjoy the journey of evolution.
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by 445123 September 10, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
so how long will this machine run ? forever
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