Comments on: Don't panic: Large Hadron Collider won't spawn voracious black holes

Scientists have presented some evidence the Large Hadron Collider, a massive physics experiment, won't produce mini black holes that could gobble up the Earth.

[mjd420nova]

The world is filled with two type of IDIOTS, ones who oppose every scientific advance with a doomsday attitude and ones who believe the drivel the others expound.

[stf-sgt-middleton]

wow.
Deep =/
Which one are you then?

[super_chicken]

It's quite simple.

We as humans do not possess the power to create anything that would effectively destroy the human race.

Like some users have stated, if the LHC does create these feared black holes, they WILL NOT exist long enough to do any significant damage to the world. Also, if the experiment was conceived to purposefully create the black holes, I highly doubt that the scientists would continue if they found that it posed a significant risk.

Common f***ing sense people, C'mon!

[super_chicken]

Oh yes, also, when is the last time humans CREATED something?

We can reshape, rearrange, mould and otherwise build things from things that already existed but I for one don't know when humans have ever created something.

So, NO, we aren't all going to die. Calm down and let them smash their atoms.

[super_chicken]

Oh yes, also, when is the last time humans CREATED something?

We can reshape, rearrange, mould and otherwise build things from things that already existed but I for one don't know when humans have ever created something.

So, NO, we aren't all going to die. Calm down and let them smash their atoms.

[mattumanu]

Will not collide into huge blackhole eat earth, but will transform into huge devastation machine kill plants animals people buildings... Look like car kill like Godzilla. Death will kill us all till we die.

[stf-sgt-middleton]

hahaha.
If you all keep arguing like this, then you're all gunna kill each other, so you're all gunna die anyway.
HA
Shoosh.
Think of now. Are we dead? Nope.
We're obviously gunna die anyway. No one lives forever.
Anyway. No time to stop and rant. I'm off to battle training. I'll be back later to Own all of you
Stf.Sgt.

[daniel hobbs]

wow, its great to see people so interested in physics

[ATruism]

I think the comment from another astute observer is apropos.

If black holes do consume the earth we won't have to endure the endless nausea produced by a Palin presidency.

I'll take a black hole over another U.S. republican administration any day of the week.

[JTankers]

The blog refers to stability of black holes (Hawking Radiation) without noting that it is flawed and disputed conjecture[1][2][5], even Professor Higgs challenges Dr. Hawking's scientific credibility[3].

CERN's astrophysics based safety conclusions (existence of dense stars) are challenged by senior German Astrophysicist Dr. Habil. Rainer Plaga (protected by extremely powerful magnetic fields)[4], visiting Professor of Physics, Chaos Theory contributor and Endophysics founder Dr. Otto Rössler (protected by super fluidity)[5]. Scientists including Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner[6] and others also challenge safety assumptions[7][8].

I support European and US Federal legal actions seeking open, independent and non-biased review of safety arguments and rebuttal arguments and proof of safety prior to high energy collisions.[7]

LHCFacts.org

[1] xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042 Do black holes radiate?. Dr. Adam Helfer (2003)

[2] arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0607137, On the existence of black hole evaporationyet again, Prof. VA Belinski (2006)

[3] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4727894.ece Peter Higgs launches attack against Nobel rival Stephen Hawking, TimesOnLine, Sep 11, 2008

[4] arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders - Rainer Plaga Rebuttal (2008)

[5] www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/OTTOROESSLERMINIBLACKHOLE.pdf Abraham-Solution to Schwarzschild Metric Implies That CERN Miniblack Holes Pose a Planetary Risk, Prof. Dr. Otto Rossler (2008)

[6] www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php US Federal Lawsuit Filings - Walter L. Wagner (2008)

[7] http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.2631 On the Stability of Black Holes at the LHC, M. D. Maia, E. M. Monte (19 Aug 2008)

[8] www.cambridgeblog.org/tag/shahn-majid/ Particle Accelerators, CERN, and Doomsday. Prof Shahn Majid (2008)

[Altansukh]

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!!! Although we don't know what really would happen, but what the heck! For the guys who are concerned about black hole, I recommend to go on and get some reading. Black hole doesn't happen so easily. Oh if somebody's so afraid of being painlessly vaporized, then please go ahead and commit suicide. That will actually help us with global warming and little bit of pollution. LOL, just kidding.
Anyways, I'm all for it. We will certainly unlock more mysteries about our universe. What if those scientist figure out "minuscule" sustainable fusion reaction that would provide us the cleanest energy resource. That will lead into new reaction based space engine and so on. Of course, in hundred years time, I presume.

[ikrase]

OMG...

Not knowing everything is not the same as not knowing anything. The most common attack is, "but we do not know"

And that science changes. However, a lot of the old science was not technically science, ie was not empirical.

Past particle colliders have shown us what happens when you bash these things together and as I understand the risk has been pretty well evaluated. Would you be afraid to mix a ton of vinegar and water together? I understand science...

Have noted in past and present much hate/resentment against scientists. Life is not a safe thing, and I doubt that these people are exactly "going on blind without any reccomendation" They reviewed the risks. Some people call out other possible risks, these have been checked.

As far as benefits to people, that is basically the universal anti science comment. This is not just "where no man has gone before" but a lot of modern things are based on advanced(somewhat science) The first actual unbreakable code (yes, unbreakable) came from quantum physics and GPS sattelites use relativity....

[inquisitive-mind]

I do not pretend to be an expert on anything, however, a lot of you have made excellent points. first of all, one of you cited tongouska, as a possible micro black hole. i don't pretend to know for sure, but i dont think this anomole could have been related to a black hole, as, the nature of a black hole is to "inhale" for lack of a better word, matter. tongouska cannot be atrributed to a blask hole, as trees would have, theoretically, been uprooted from the ground. Also, any object with mass, cannot attain, or exceed the speed of light, as the mass of the object increases nearly to infinity. DrbraD, i denounce you. You come on here and attempt to scare all of these intelligent people with your anti-inteligence. nor do i believe tongouska was a mweteor, i think it was something that we have no knowledge of. there is so much to know in this universe, all the knowledge ever compiled by man with be no more than a scratch on the face of the universe. as for bringing god into this, please, we dont let scientists in to teach at church, dont bring god into science.

[baltimorebabe]

Stop with the "bad boy experiments" and quit trying to destroy things. It's just nuts and pointless. Like when you find some bad kids out in the back yard smashing stuff just because they want to. The money could go to making the earth a better place for all to live in instead of being wasted on this weird science.