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Comments on: Air Force base in Nevada goes solar with 14-megawatt array

On 140 acres of Nevada desert, 70,000 mounted solar panels will make up the biggest solar installation in the States, according to the Air Force and SunPower.

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by thriftyT May 26, 2008 7:13 AM PDT
People should take notice of news like this, because it puts into perspective why solar power will NEVER amount to anything more than a supplemental source of electrical power generation.

This 140 acre solar farm only outputs enough power for ~10,000 households, or as the article states, enough power for 25% of one Air Force Base's electricity consumption.

Not bad, but not great either. Keep in mind that this only works in Nevada. And only in the daytime.

People need to get real about their expectations for solar power. No matter how cheap it gets, there is a very finite amount of solar power available and that amount doesn't come close to satisfying our voracious energy consumption.

Solar power will be one part of future energy supplies, to be sure, but more attention should be paid to less sexy, but equally important advances in energy EFFICIENCY.

e.g. A new coal plant that is 10% more efficient at converting coal to electricity is every bit as impressive as a solar farm.

Also, any decrease in energy consumption will be at least as important as finding new energy sources. One of the most hopeful advances will be the widespread use of CFL and LED lighting in conventional (i.e. household and businesses) applications.
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by bob1xxxx May 26, 2008 1:27 PM PDT
Honestly I dont think there will be one magic bullet energy solution for the next ten to fifteen years. I think for near future a mix of conventional fuel power plants (ie oil, coal and nuclear) and in many areas taking advantage of solar, wind and possible tidal engery supplies. Past of single fuel source for electric power is in the past , but currently alternative are not ready to take over yet, but as the tech improves (cheaper) more and more power will be produced, Unfortunately too many people are looking for unreasonable all or nothing solutions (ie tree huggers want to go back to pre industrial world, coal and oil companies want the un regulated smog/soot filled world 1940/50's back) neither wet dream will fly with todays consumers. The near future electrical production is going to come from using the best tech both conventiona fuelsl and alternative power generation sources, as time goes by alternative power generation will take on a great percentages of the load , and also using new tech like led/cfl lighting, more engery efficient appliances, heating and cooling unit, water heaters, etc... Will all help. The solution to future electrical power generation is multi faceted with NO ONE magic bullet or solution,
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by steveg19 July 19, 2008 2:52 AM PDT
Three comments
1) 140 acres site producing 15 megawatts of electricity.
1 acre =4047metres; Energy from sun on 1 square metre = 1.3 kwat
So total energy falling in 140 acres=140*4047*1300 watts=736megawatts
So efficiency of this power station =15/736*100 percent=2%
So I expect to see lots more power to come from this area
2) I cannot find the area of the nevada desert but from the maps I believe it to be at leastb100km by 100 km or 10000sq km or 10billion square metres . So that equals 10 *1300 giga watts= 13 terrawatts of sunligh energy.
Thus is all the desert were used at an efficiency of 10% 1.3 terrawatts could be generated
Electricity consumpution for the year in the USA is less than 4 pettawatt hours per year or 4/365X12pettawatts per hour= 9.13Terrawatts per hour assumming the power is generated over 12 hours not 24
This desert on its own could generate a substantial proprortion of the energy required by the USA. (This by illustration, Solar power will be a very useful source of energy in the future but I would not try to take all the power one desert could supply for other reasons)
3) Electricity is not used efficiently; we use incandecent lighting; we do not insulate; we light & heat areas that do not need to be we are generally wasteful. It should without a great investment be possible to reduce our energy usage without affecting our quality of life.
So I think Solar has great future; It is non polluting, Available for as long as the sun exists and has the potential by itself to provide all our energy needs.
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by transformity August 15, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
steveg19, you have confused the 'Solar Constant' with the actual amount of energy that reaches the surface of earth. Solar constant is 1376 W/m2 which on a surface perpendicular to solar rays at top of atmosphere. Actual amount that reaches Earth surface is about 240 W/m2...should be a little more in desert of Nevada.
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by JosephRogers February 2, 2009 12:02 PM PST
I think the real future of Solar energy is not something that is going to be provided for us as a nation or as a world but needs to be something we do for ourselves. While I do believe that the United States Government should put more concentration on solar power and energy than on less safe sources of energy like nuclear energy which creates a bi-product that is not only hazardous but has a half life of thousands of years and will never go away. I think that we as intelligent and educated americans should start putting more solar panels on our own homes and we should switch to LED light to try and attempt to lower our amount of wasteful energy consumption. If every person in America this year who could afford it put solar panels on their own home and every knew building built had to come with mandatory installation of solar panels we could save so much energy it would be unreal. With all of the energy we saved we could then use the rest of the energy for more productive things as water purification in third world countries. We must approach this problem with a grass roots attempt to try and save our planet instead of waiting around and waiting for someone else to do it. As a god fearing christian I'm always reminded of the two sins we have out there. We can either sin by what we do or we can sin by the good we don't do. No longer should good men with the financial means to help stand back and watch and blame governments and others when there is something they can do.
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