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Comments on: Al Gore details five-step plan to clean electricity

As speculation mounts over federal energy policy, the former vice president presents a plan to make electricity "carbon-free" in 10 years--an extremely ambitious goal based on existing tech.

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by November 10, 2008 4:17 PM PST
If you give people an option, they will take it. Instead, give them incentive and NO option, and they will make it. The power of the greatest common denominator. :-)

Otherwise, the pocket affected will reject it.
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by dargon19888 November 10, 2008 4:53 PM PST
Self serving policies by Pickens and Gore. Nothing more, nothing less... so don't get fooled by his desires.

Gore's plans don't account for the environmental impact of creating these solar farms or the wind turbines have on bird/bat life.

Rather than jump at quick fixes, its better to take a more conservative approach, including nuclear energy and focus on fusion potential.
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by SandraSB November 10, 2008 5:44 PM PST
One thing we need to remember is that we are running out of time. We need to get off CO2 emitting fuels by 2015. We need to get behind concepts like this. Not derail them before they start.
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by ppgreat November 17, 2008 6:16 PM PST
With all the money being thrown at companies right now just to prop them up and maintain the status quo, like, oh, I don't know, AIG executive multi-million dollar bonuses, what's wrong with giving this a shot?

Does it sound ambitious? Sure. What incredibly important things in the past haven't?

You want to get the best bang for the innovation buck? Pay for the intellectual property on a global scale. This is a global crisis. Every country kicks in. Toyota shares its latest hybrid tech, Tesla shares its torque research, etc.

The best basics for plug-in electric/hybrids are incorporated into all production vehicles, still allowing individual auto manufacturers to play in the marketplace like they have with the internal combustion engine for a century.

Individual manufacturers can R&D with flex fuel, hydrogen, etc., if they want. It's up to them.

But no more propping up the status quo. No rewarding people for screwing up. No golden parachutes for execs whose avarice has hosed millions of people.

I know this probably flies in the face of all the MBA Six Sigma business school types currently trying to protect their lifestyles, but aren't they the ones who got us into this global freefall to begin with?
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by gaudenciolabrador December 16, 2008 11:57 PM PST
by: Hydroterium12 Dec. 16, 2008, 11:20pm

The oil people are the owners of the auto industry and the banking industry. They are the super rich people, and they are the ones who milk the starving people -- the tax payers. They jack up the price of gasoline fuels and they gathered wealth to the tune of $10 Billion in Three months. With so much money on hand, they lobbied (bribed) congress and senate to get $25 Billion to reward them who intentionally did not do their homeworks by playing golf and watching the football. We can easily come into a conclusion therefore, that the oil people, the congress, the senate and the white house have enterconnected pockets in a network.

How come that the Japanese cars have several hybrids already and not one hybrid in the american car ? Even as they are in the process of asking for bailout, none of the american automakers suggested that they will build hydrogen fueld car. This means that the american automakers insist to use the oil fuel --- more carbon.

We must therefore pray hard to get out of this corrupt government.
by hydroterium12 December 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Most Honorable Al Gore has the highest spirit and deserves a high praise for leading the world to take care of our planet Earth, a God's gift, serving as our space ship going around the galaxy approaching the speed of light relative to fix point.

It is very inspiring to have brothers, like Al Gore and Barak Obama, pushing very hard to break away from the bandage of Carbon, the Climate Enemy, as surely they know very well the truth that Hydrogen Fuel and the clean Thermonuclear Energy is an old technology. There is no question about the presence of this old Powerful Clean Energy, but the big question is the presence of the greedy big Coal investors and the greedy big oil people and big oil investors who supress the hydrogen fuel which is carbon free. God said, the harvest is today, not tomorrow, and it should have done yesterday.

Right now we can fed hydrogen fuel directly into the intake of any engine, for transporatation, for electric generation, for hydrogen fuel production, and irrigation water production, anywhere, from the North Pole to the South Pole. The oil people is using the high price Fuel Cell as an obstacle against usage of hydrogen fuel. By means of the Fuel Cell, the high tech people victimize the common man. Hydrogen Fuel is used in the same way that the Natural Gas is being fed into the inake of the engine.

The oil people, who owns the auto industry and the Banks, just refuse the make the device that can safely handle the hydrogen fuel. They scare the people, the policy makers, and the safety administrators -- saying that the hydrgogen will explode, but they do not say that the Natural Gas will explode, not the gasoline, and not the alcohol. Hydrogen is stored by God safely in the water and we even drink it at least 8 glasses a day, -- so what is the danger ?

Please stop predicting or the prophecy that Hydrogen feul will be safely used one year from now ?, 4 years from now ? and 30 years from now ? If we have the righteous hearts and clean intentions, we do not push back the hydrogen fuel. We should admit that we are in a currupt generation.

The U.S. will be far behind other countries in Hydrogen Power because the World Intellectural Property Organization (WIPO) has already published worldwide my patent application for Thermonuclear Energy and the Thermonuclear Engine -- if the U.S. will insist using carbon foot prints -- against the climate.
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by gaudenciolabrador December 16, 2008 10:43 PM PST
by: Hydroterium12 Dec. 16, 2008
Nuclear Power Plant is very dangerous and very expensive -- considering the effects of radioactive fallout in the event that:
1. when earthquake strikes the power plant;
2. when terrorist strikes the power plant;
3. when computer virous strikes the control systems;
4. when meteor from heaven strikes the power plant;
5. when the internal workers themselves become out of control;
6. Human beings are not perfect -- so the nuclear plant that they built is not perfect either;
7. Due to the expenses in mining uranium and upgrading process of the nuclear fuel;
8. Due to heavy expenses in constructing and maintaining the Power Transmission Lines;
9. The power lines are easy prey for terrorist;
10. The nuclear power plant is an easy prey by missle attack, and by airplane kamikazi;
11. The nuclear power plant is against the favorable principle of distributed generation.
12. The nuclear power plant is against the favorable distribution of wealth of energy business;
13. The Power Transmission Line destroys beauty of the land and destroys real estate value.

Therefore, as advocated by Honorable Al Gore and President Obama, we must stay on solar power, wind power, geothermal power, and least cost of all energies -- the hydrgen fusion or thermonuclear energy -- it being fueled by water in unlimited supply.

Wind power is very cheap or the least cost because:
1. It can be installed in every home -- hence, avoids the need for the power transmission line;
2. The wind turbine must be made of wide-face blades to maximize wind contact or harvest;
3. The wind turbines must also be installed in multi-level kites up in the sky to harvest the stronger
winds for sky generated electricity -- to avoid construction of towers, -- it should be noted that 90%
of the wind power is up in the sky;
4. The variable voltage generated by the windmill should not be regulated, as the wind varies in speed,
in order to maximized DC electric output for use in electrolysis of water to maximize hydrogen fuel
production. The electrolysis device does not need constant voltage.
5. Having windmills in every home, it create jobs for the home owner to produce abundant hydrogen
fuel for sell in cooperative marketing. In this way, the poor man is emancipated -- by providing him
the opportunity to participated in the energy business-- this is distribution of wealth of the energy
industry.
6. To create more jobs, every family member of the home must be trained to manufacture and
install their own windmills in the neighborehood.
7. The hydrogen fuel so produced by the home owners will be used to fuel their own home engines to
generate constant voltage electricity in the homes.
8. Excess electric power so produced in the homes will be stored in the form of hydrogen fuel in tanks,
for their own cars and trucks.
9. Hot water needed for the efficient electrolysis process is produced by the heat eneregy wasted at
the tailpipe of the home electric generator engine.
10. The excess wasted heat at the tailpipe of the home engine is used to heat up the home, to
produce distilled drinking water for the homes, and to run a second gas/steam turbine engine that
drives a second electric generator to produce more hydrogen fuel.

I hope every body be a big brother for every body. We must be righteous.
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