Comments on: Massive solar photovoltaic plants are California-bound

California utility Pacific Gas & Electric is working with OptiSolar and SunPower to add 800 megawatts of photovoltaic solar farms to the grid.

[Manhattan2]

Doesn't anyone get it. It seems to us that these companies like Wal-Mart, JC Penny, and Macy's are all trying to jump on the Al Gore and Google bandwagon to state their greenness by going solar. Nice try but all these installations are being done in error. We feel in every case there is a better return of renewable energy that can be captured for the same invested dollar with lower CO2 production cost to the environment. Yes that means they are wrong to go Solar in the way that they are. There is a better way it already exists.


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The real question will have to be asked. Did they know this information ahead of time and still go solar for the sake of looking green? If that is the case, that will not be the way we help the planet. Who out there is more interested in helping the planet and less interested in making profits and looking green? Do the research, the answers are out there.


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It may be crucial that we tackle the problems the right way! Copy and email this text to your Senator, Barack Obama and John McCain and yes even George Bush. They should all be made aware of what is going on. The planets health and your child's future may be at risk.

[DigitalFrog]

Wow. Obviously no arrogance or self-promotion going on with Manhattan2.

[Manhattan2]

We are not selling anything! Trying to inform. Simply stating current facts. We could sell to millions but fixed base photovoltaic solutions is not the answer. If someone proves our numbers wrong we will go away. Our cause is logic, not greed, not blind emotion trying to look green. Just logic! We have built a better mouse trap but it is not for sale. Others will have to participate. State and Federal governments will have to come to their senses. As engineers we are not interested in the politics involved in completely abandoning the million solar roofs logic but that is what needs to happen. We simply analyze and design better solutions.

Not trying to kill solar. Trying to shape solar so it is something the masses can participate in. The web guys and oil companies that started a lot of these solar companies need to spend their money wisely. They should be smart enough to understand their errors, but if those errors are/were intentional that is a different story.

[baisa]

Manhattan2 is a bogus entity. What legitimate company has Google ads on its front page? Its "products" don't even include anything related to solar. It harps about solar stuff on its front page but there isn't a single visible link to back this up.

[Manhattan2]

No products for sale. Just tracking how successful we are at getting the word out. Phase 1 of a 5 phase program is all that has been released and phase 1 is to inform. To force those that are seeking solar solutions to investigate their options. Phase 1 can already improve CO2 reduction by 40% with no added cost. Those that argue or try to block our words are usually installers and manufacturers trying to make profits off of installing inefficient, greater CO2 producing solutions. We are seeking like minded creative engineers to join the Manhattan 2 Project. Solar panels to batteries does not make sense. Expensive fixed solar panels does not make sense. This may be because our solutions solve these hurdles and those products will be released in due time. If going house to house and business to business is the game that will continue to be played we can dominate that space with the products and programs we already have planned. That is not our goal but that would be the easy way out. Either way we suggest photovoltaic installers seek other avenues of revenue. We have only hinted at what we have to prepare those that want to be a part of our work to find us. This is big and phase 1 is taking shape and the word is getting out there. Again we are new to distributing our findings without giving away our product design. That is why you will only get snippets and hints of our plans.. If you seek the highest return for your solar investment email us at [e-mail] . We are funding our projects privately. We will partner with only companies and individuals that use open dialogue and common sense to tackle the issues that are facing us all. The Manhattan 2 Project, this time for all the right reasons!

[provospain]

So your big idea - Manhattan2 - is to relocate or redirect private buyer's solar panels to where the most sun falls on them and have them get a return on what it produces? I guess that make some sense on a residential level, but then you should be one of the biggest supporters of a large utility grade install like this one or solar thermal that is efficient, properly located (have you been to central CA? Sunny...) and eliminates the proposed inefficiency of individual installs. It does make it appear that you're just trying to generate hits for yourself or your "partner" (customers), in which case please spare us.

[Aspire2Renew]

I'll say this much, I'm a firm supporter of alternative energy in it's many forms. I try and learn as much as possible through current news and the underlying science behind the products (I'm an aspiring engineer). With that being said, I also maintain a certain level of objectivity to current issues. I want to see a solution(s) that fits according to the logistics and demand. For this specific project, it makes sense!
Yes, the ideal solution would be for every residential home/small community to be self sufficient. There would be little loss in transmission, and consequently less draw on the existing grid itself. This is not viable though, because obviously we don't have that demand yet. The next best thing is having stationary, efficient panels, to provide in bulk....

For us people in the Great White North, your company sounds similar the already established Bullfrog
Note: I'm not trying to promote, just to compare. <http://www.bullfrogpower.com/>
Is there any difference?