Comments on: Why Microsoft's C# isn't

Java inventor James Gosling says he isn't losing much sleep over Microsoft these days, despite the software giant's effort to stem Java's popularity with its own Java-like language.

This was a hilarious find, six years later. C# is "low productivity" compared to Java huh? Lol

It would be a great world if Java (and its support systems like Eclipse) could compete in a serious way with .Net and C# in particular, but that's not the reality today. It's pretty clear that C# is creaming Java in business software.

[JAVAMAN_2004]

C# is creaming Java? Hey, I want you to look at this http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html. See? And I also want you to check-out the Android platform by Google.

[drowling]

Wow, yes, 6 years later, I look back at this and think: thank god i didn't get a job at IBM and haven't become a Java developer. I reckon where they blew it is with a lack of a killer IDE... IntelliJ is close, but c'mon - Visual Studio just kills every IDE out there. Also, Java 2's UI frameworks just confuse the hell out of programmers, whereas WinForms was straightforward, it ran quickly, and continues to run to this day. It's everything we wanted. So I've got to agree with the other poster here that C# has creamed Java for productivity and not just productivity, but basic developer happiness. I for one can't see myself leaving .NET for another framework anytime soon. Unless Microsoft comes along with something better, that is :)

[JAVAMAN_2004]

Visual Studio kills every IDE out-there? I DON'T THINK SO. Is there an Open-Source Visual Studio for Linux.. Solaris, etc? Can you enumerate some of it? Did you heard about NetBeans IDE? Its written in Java... Is there an IDE out-there that is written in C#?

[finleyd]

@JAVAMAN_2004:

There is an IDE written in C#. It is called SharpDevelop (http://www.sharpdevelop.com/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx). SharpDevelop is specific to Windows. The Mono Project (http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page), has developed a cross-platform port, MonoDevelop (http://monodevelop.com/).

In addition, mutliple Eclipse plug-ins exist for C#. Some of the most used include the Emonic (http://sourceforge.net/projects/emonic) and Improve (http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/esharp/) plug-ins. There is a good article on IBM Developer Works (http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-eclipse-migratenetvs/index.html) on Emonic and NANT.

[Ahmad_Musaffa]

I can code c, c++, java, python, html, php with netbeans IDE. It is free & opensource! One of the greatest features about Netbeans is that i dont have to bother if i switch to different Operating systems. And C# plugin for netbeans is under development. So I'm not using Visual Studio.

[popasmuerf]

Both of you must be on crack. C# sucks for anything other than developing on MS platforms. No one with at least a fragment of a brain thinks C# is even as half as mature as Java w/r to APIs and development tools.

"It would be a great world if Java (and its support systems like Eclipse) could compete in a serious way with .Net and C# in particular, but that's not the reality today. It's pretty clear that C# is creaming Java in business software." .....Dude, you cant possibly be serious.

Funny how you NEVER encounter apps written in C# on a daily basis yet ever cell phone or web app that isnt written in PHP/Perl is running Java. Put down the pipe.

[paullyv]

You must be joking about never encountering apps that run on C# or you must visit only Java sites, there are tons of sites that use C#, ASP.net, the reason is, it's so easy. And what difference does it make it is MS platform if your making a web app, its accessible via anyone's browser.

Notice how you said they are written in PHP/Perl and NOT in Java, for a good reason! I'd rather use PHP than Java and for the other comment above, don't get me started on JavaBeans IDE! Puke! Put down the needle and kaleidoscope glasses man!