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Growing clout of Web-based development is much in evidence as Microsoft courts developers. But is Bill Gates losing sleep? Nah.

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"...we're building work flow deep into the cloud."
by revsorg September 14, 2005 5:46 PM PDT
"...we're building work flow deep into the cloud."

That's just hot air.
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"...we're building work flow deep into the cloud."
by revsorg September 14, 2005 5:46 PM PDT
"...we're building work flow deep into the cloud."

That's just hot air.
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Interesting Bill. Except you DO organize the world's information...
by nitewatch September 15, 2005 12:58 PM PDT
Not in the data collection business? What the hell do you call Passport? You, Mr. Gates are in any business so long as its trailing a momentous invention. If digital pet rocks was the next "blog" or "IM" Microsoft would be setting up petrock.msn.com in 10 minutes.
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Interesting Bill. Except you DO organize the world's information...
by nitewatch September 15, 2005 12:58 PM PDT
Not in the data collection business? What the hell do you call Passport? You, Mr. Gates are in any business so long as its trailing a momentous invention. If digital pet rocks was the next "blog" or "IM" Microsoft would be setting up petrock.msn.com in 10 minutes.
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Microsoft vs. Google
by September 15, 2005 3:09 PM PDT
Funny. I remember when Microsoft with IAYF. They stole the
name from a local Redmond women who had a beauty shop and
she sued. Evil Evil Evil...

I sat in on part of the Microsoft vs. Google Lawsuit involving
Kai-Fu Lee Free Associate Kung Fu. I did a thing on his name
on my web. This guy is going to be paid his full salary and
receive about $4 mil. in compensation from Google, even if they
loose this case? Yeah, Kai Fu made out like a bandit. He has a
total Win/Win case! I've never seen anyone screw over Microsoft
like this. It's all in his name. LOL

Then Alan Eustace, VP of Google Engineering, who negotiated
this deal was on the stand. He said they never considered that
Microsoft would sue over this. Yeah! What cave has he been
living in over the past 15 years. It was a total lie and you could
see it in his behavior and hear it in his voice. Then it was
brought out that Baidu - a Chinese company - had 51% of the
search market in China and they had about 35%, with Yahoo and
other splitting the remaining 14%. Microsoft has just entered
the market and has about inch %. That is a Chinese concept. LOL

So I'm listening to this and it really doesn't seem like Google is
trying to win at all. If anything, they seem to be handing this
whole matter over to a bias judge and Preston Gates and Ellis,
Gates' Daddies law firm. Why? Well, China is a Totalitarian
country who already hates Microsoft. If Google looses this case,
it will go into China and become antitrust case.

Don't expect Microsoft, who has insulted the government and
locals more times over the past decade that I can count, to drag
this case out! The contracts Microsoft is making people sign are
illegal under international law, in the State of California and
most definitely in China! Microsoft could actually get fined a
huge amount and banded from hiring Chinese citizens. They
could also put major sanctions on Microsoft or go so far as
barring them from competing in the Chinese market altogether.
You don't believe this? China is essentially still a communist
country! Microsoft is really playing with fire there. Lee is
extremely popular with both the government and students in
China. Microsoft is turning this very talent person, who use to
work for Apple, into a Chinese Martyr.

PS: So sorry Billg! LOL Should have left when they were trying to
kick you out!
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Microsoft vs. Google
by September 15, 2005 3:09 PM PDT
Funny. I remember when Microsoft with IAYF. They stole the
name from a local Redmond women who had a beauty shop and
she sued. Evil Evil Evil...

I sat in on part of the Microsoft vs. Google Lawsuit involving
Kai-Fu Lee Free Associate Kung Fu. I did a thing on his name
on my web. This guy is going to be paid his full salary and
receive about $4 mil. in compensation from Google, even if they
loose this case? Yeah, Kai Fu made out like a bandit. He has a
total Win/Win case! I've never seen anyone screw over Microsoft
like this. It's all in his name. LOL

Then Alan Eustace, VP of Google Engineering, who negotiated
this deal was on the stand. He said they never considered that
Microsoft would sue over this. Yeah! What cave has he been
living in over the past 15 years. It was a total lie and you could
see it in his behavior and hear it in his voice. Then it was
brought out that Baidu - a Chinese company - had 51% of the
search market in China and they had about 35%, with Yahoo and
other splitting the remaining 14%. Microsoft has just entered
the market and has about inch %. That is a Chinese concept. LOL

So I'm listening to this and it really doesn't seem like Google is
trying to win at all. If anything, they seem to be handing this
whole matter over to a bias judge and Preston Gates and Ellis,
Gates' Daddies law firm. Why? Well, China is a Totalitarian
country who already hates Microsoft. If Google looses this case,
it will go into China and become antitrust case.

Don't expect Microsoft, who has insulted the government and
locals more times over the past decade that I can count, to drag
this case out! The contracts Microsoft is making people sign are
illegal under international law, in the State of California and
most definitely in China! Microsoft could actually get fined a
huge amount and banded from hiring Chinese citizens. They
could also put major sanctions on Microsoft or go so far as
barring them from competing in the Chinese market altogether.
You don't believe this? China is essentially still a communist
country! Microsoft is really playing with fire there. Lee is
extremely popular with both the government and students in
China. Microsoft is turning this very talent person, who use to
work for Apple, into a Chinese Martyr.

PS: So sorry Billg! LOL Should have left when they were trying to
kick you out!
Reply to this comment
Microsoft vs. Google
by September 15, 2005 3:11 PM PDT
Funny. I remember when Microsoft with IAYF. They stole the
name from a local Redmond women who had a beauty shop and
she sued. Evil Evil Evil...

I sat in on part of the Microsoft vs. Google Lawsuit involving
Kai-Fu Lee Free Associate Kung Fu. I did a thing on his name
on my web. This guy is going to be paid his full salary and
receive about $4 mil. in compensation from Google, even if they
loose this case? Yeah, Kai Fu made out like a bandit. He has a
total Win/Win case! I've never seen anyone screw over Microsoft
like this. It's all in his name. LOL

Then Alan Eustace, VP of Google Engineering, who negotiated
this deal was on the stand. He said they never considered that
Microsoft would sue over this. Yeah! What cave has he been
living in over the past 15 years. It was a total lie and you could
see it in his behavior and hear it in his voice. Then it was
brought out that Baidu - a Chinese company - had 51% of the
search market in China and they had about 35%, with Yahoo and
other splitting the remaining 14%. Microsoft has just entered
the market and has about inch %. That is a Chinese concept. LOL

So I'm listening to this and it really doesn't seem like Google is
trying to win at all. If anything, they seem to be handing this
whole matter over to a bias judge and Preston Gates and Ellis,
Gates' Daddies law firm. Why? Well, China is a Totalitarian
country who already hates Microsoft. If Google looses this case,
it will go into China and become antitrust case.

Don't expect Microsoft, who has insulted the government and
locals more times over the past decade that I can count, to drag
this case out! The contracts Microsoft is making people sign are
illegal under international law, in the State of California and
most definitely in China! Microsoft could actually get fined a
huge amount and banded from hiring Chinese citizens. They
could also put major sanctions on Microsoft or go so far as
barring them from competing in the Chinese market altogether.
You don't believe this? China is essentially still a communist
country! Microsoft is really playing with fire there. Lee is
extremely popular with both the government and students in
China. Microsoft is turning this very talent person, who use to
work for Apple, into a Chinese Martyr.

China has 20.5% of the world's population. Together with India,
that part of ASIA makes up 34% of the world population.
Messing up this market is NOT a good thing. And Kai-Fu
testified that this is exactly what Microsoft has already done.

PS: So sorry Billg! LOL Should have left when they were trying to
kick you out!
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Why any country hates microsoft?
by msoftilike November 6, 2005 4:11 AM PST
Microsoft is a software for many computers.It causes no harm.From windows to windows xp professional.That shouldn't bother any country.Software competitions is always there plus jealousy too.Two different persons should discuss clearly at meetings to sort something out.Understanding each other is important.No fights needed.
Microsoft vs. Google
by September 15, 2005 3:11 PM PDT
Funny. I remember when Microsoft with IAYF. They stole the
name from a local Redmond women who had a beauty shop and
she sued. Evil Evil Evil...

I sat in on part of the Microsoft vs. Google Lawsuit involving
Kai-Fu Lee Free Associate Kung Fu. I did a thing on his name
on my web. This guy is going to be paid his full salary and
receive about $4 mil. in compensation from Google, even if they
loose this case? Yeah, Kai Fu made out like a bandit. He has a
total Win/Win case! I've never seen anyone screw over Microsoft
like this. It's all in his name. LOL

Then Alan Eustace, VP of Google Engineering, who negotiated
this deal was on the stand. He said they never considered that
Microsoft would sue over this. Yeah! What cave has he been
living in over the past 15 years. It was a total lie and you could
see it in his behavior and hear it in his voice. Then it was
brought out that Baidu - a Chinese company - had 51% of the
search market in China and they had about 35%, with Yahoo and
other splitting the remaining 14%. Microsoft has just entered
the market and has about inch %. That is a Chinese concept. LOL

So I'm listening to this and it really doesn't seem like Google is
trying to win at all. If anything, they seem to be handing this
whole matter over to a bias judge and Preston Gates and Ellis,
Gates' Daddies law firm. Why? Well, China is a Totalitarian
country who already hates Microsoft. If Google looses this case,
it will go into China and become antitrust case.

Don't expect Microsoft, who has insulted the government and
locals more times over the past decade that I can count, to drag
this case out! The contracts Microsoft is making people sign are
illegal under international law, in the State of California and
most definitely in China! Microsoft could actually get fined a
huge amount and banded from hiring Chinese citizens. They
could also put major sanctions on Microsoft or go so far as
barring them from competing in the Chinese market altogether.
You don't believe this? China is essentially still a communist
country! Microsoft is really playing with fire there. Lee is
extremely popular with both the government and students in
China. Microsoft is turning this very talent person, who use to
work for Apple, into a Chinese Martyr.

China has 20.5% of the world's population. Together with India,
that part of ASIA makes up 34% of the world population.
Messing up this market is NOT a good thing. And Kai-Fu
testified that this is exactly what Microsoft has already done.

PS: So sorry Billg! LOL Should have left when they were trying to
kick you out!
Reply to this comment
Why any country hates microsoft?
by msoftilike November 6, 2005 4:11 AM PST
Microsoft is a software for many computers.It causes no harm.From windows to windows xp professional.That shouldn't bother any country.Software competitions is always there plus jealousy too.Two different persons should discuss clearly at meetings to sort something out.Understanding each other is important.No fights needed.
Google is in trouble
by September 15, 2005 6:15 PM PDT
I think Google's in trouble. Look at what Microsoft does, not what Gates says. They have targeted search engines. It meets their business model - high volume, low cost. Have they ever failed to capture a market that they have targeted? Do they lack the resources? Do they have fewer smart people than Google? Is the market reluctant to change search engines for one that is a little bit better? (remember Yahoo?). Are they not capabable of swallowing their egos and imitating every good idea of their competitors? Of embrace and extend? (remember Macintosh? Netscape?)
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The question to ask
by David Dudley September 16, 2005 10:55 PM PDT
Is Google's market share going up or down and from the flip side, is MSN's search usage going up or down? Will there be a way for MS to get people away from Google? (Maybe they can put fake error messages in IE like they did when you ran Windows on DR-DOS.) Leveraging their monopoly on the desktop, they have to somehow, someway come up with a method for pulling people away from Google and so far, they haven't come up with any clever insights to do so. So far, search.MSN.com is just another "me to" search engine, which according to Billy Gates, Google is guilty of doing with their Google Talk IM application (the pot calling the kettle black!).

So far, Microsoft has not created anything on the web useful, unique enough or just better enough to pull people away from Google. But I'll give credit where credit is due - MSN search has more blue. Now it just needs an animated paperclip icon to give me searching tips.
Google?
by CNerd2025 September 17, 2005 12:39 PM PDT
I'd say M$ is in trouble. Google is heavily inflated, IMHO. But M$ has severed its ties with its most revered allies: the developers. Despite the fact that the trained monkey CEO Steve danced around a stage saying "Developers! Developers! Developers!" over and over again doesn't mean that they really value their developers. In fact, M$ has gone to great lengths to ensure that products are backward compatible. The API is M$'s strength. Vista has a DIFFERENT and incompatible API with that of <=XP. Not only have the messed with the API, but they've also screwed the developer tools. .NET is arguably very powerful, but instead of VB and VC++, they have VB.NET which is different in syntax and style from VB 6. Plus C# is being used in order to attempt a "unification" but the use of it involves a runtime, like Java. Now there are more languages, more clutter that users have to deal with, and most importantly, programs that are incompatible. So you see, the problem is that developers can't easily port their code to Vista and users can't at all, save an emulator, install their old programs on the new OS.

Google is taking a different approach by joining the web-app bandwagon early on. In fact, web applications reflect the ideas and philosophies of Unix, the opposite of Windows. "Small parts, loosely jointed" is an analogy of this. In a good web app, you have small little functions that are powerful but limited in scope. Rich-client apps are much bulkier and take care of mixing the different functions for you, thus they are less configurable. In a web-app, modularity of function and integration of data-handling allows very powerful applications that are utterly simple. If you add abstraction, a hyper-functional system is born, much superior in many ways to Windows or even Mac. Apple, however, seems much more open to progress and innovation than M$. Apple has innovation where M$ has vision. Of late, Apple has corrected its vision, able to see focus free. Google plays so close to the vest that one doesn't know what they're doing. Web-apps are the largest threat to M$, and they're making some bad decisions, such as cozying up to the RIAA and MPAA. They need to realize the obsolete and dump them in their own garbage. Also, BGates and SBalmer need to sprout a corporate conscience, but that's another story...well, that's an oxymoron.
Google is in trouble
by September 15, 2005 6:15 PM PDT
I think Google's in trouble. Look at what Microsoft does, not what Gates says. They have targeted search engines. It meets their business model - high volume, low cost. Have they ever failed to capture a market that they have targeted? Do they lack the resources? Do they have fewer smart people than Google? Is the market reluctant to change search engines for one that is a little bit better? (remember Yahoo?). Are they not capabable of swallowing their egos and imitating every good idea of their competitors? Of embrace and extend? (remember Macintosh? Netscape?)
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The question to ask
by David Dudley September 16, 2005 10:55 PM PDT
Is Google's market share going up or down and from the flip side, is MSN's search usage going up or down? Will there be a way for MS to get people away from Google? (Maybe they can put fake error messages in IE like they did when you ran Windows on DR-DOS.) Leveraging their monopoly on the desktop, they have to somehow, someway come up with a method for pulling people away from Google and so far, they haven't come up with any clever insights to do so. So far, search.MSN.com is just another "me to" search engine, which according to Billy Gates, Google is guilty of doing with their Google Talk IM application (the pot calling the kettle black!).

So far, Microsoft has not created anything on the web useful, unique enough or just better enough to pull people away from Google. But I'll give credit where credit is due - MSN search has more blue. Now it just needs an animated paperclip icon to give me searching tips.
Google?
by CNerd2025 September 17, 2005 12:39 PM PDT
I'd say M$ is in trouble. Google is heavily inflated, IMHO. But M$ has severed its ties with its most revered allies: the developers. Despite the fact that the trained monkey CEO Steve danced around a stage saying "Developers! Developers! Developers!" over and over again doesn't mean that they really value their developers. In fact, M$ has gone to great lengths to ensure that products are backward compatible. The API is M$'s strength. Vista has a DIFFERENT and incompatible API with that of <=XP. Not only have the messed with the API, but they've also screwed the developer tools. .NET is arguably very powerful, but instead of VB and VC++, they have VB.NET which is different in syntax and style from VB 6. Plus C# is being used in order to attempt a "unification" but the use of it involves a runtime, like Java. Now there are more languages, more clutter that users have to deal with, and most importantly, programs that are incompatible. So you see, the problem is that developers can't easily port their code to Vista and users can't at all, save an emulator, install their old programs on the new OS.

Google is taking a different approach by joining the web-app bandwagon early on. In fact, web applications reflect the ideas and philosophies of Unix, the opposite of Windows. "Small parts, loosely jointed" is an analogy of this. In a good web app, you have small little functions that are powerful but limited in scope. Rich-client apps are much bulkier and take care of mixing the different functions for you, thus they are less configurable. In a web-app, modularity of function and integration of data-handling allows very powerful applications that are utterly simple. If you add abstraction, a hyper-functional system is born, much superior in many ways to Windows or even Mac. Apple, however, seems much more open to progress and innovation than M$. Apple has innovation where M$ has vision. Of late, Apple has corrected its vision, able to see focus free. Google plays so close to the vest that one doesn't know what they're doing. Web-apps are the largest threat to M$, and they're making some bad decisions, such as cozying up to the RIAA and MPAA. They need to realize the obsolete and dump them in their own garbage. Also, BGates and SBalmer need to sprout a corporate conscience, but that's another story...well, that's an oxymoron.
A few extracts with some comments.
by September 16, 2005 2:45 AM PDT
Google, because they are in the honeymoon phase, people think that they do all things at all times in all ways. (this was use to be the MS domain)

You do me-too Google Talk, and it's a big deal. (every thing MS has produced to date is a me-too, even the MS-DOS and the Windows)

... because we have to make things very reliable and very secure if you are going to do this. ... we can start to do (this).

Our slogan is that we are going to give people tools to let them organize the **world's** information (google wants to use these tools to orginize the world's information so what makes ms panic)

we don't know everything they are up to (but we soon will)

The place we are strongest in this today is in instant messenger (which is hosted on what kind of servers??)

when did I first say "information at your fingertips"? (and when did I say "640K is ought to be sufficient!")

We bought a company called FrontBridge that's kind of a software service firm

If the next three people under you don't write code but they do deals, what do you get? You get deals

I've always believed in low-cost, high-volume (and imagine if your clients have to reinvest over and over and over...)

The value you get out of the system is a lot larger than that

... hopefully, with companies that take the long-term approach and make the investments

=================================================
Well as Dana Ludwig said "Google is in trouble", I would add to it just the word "deep"
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Please stop spreading that rumor
by rockosmodurnlife September 16, 2005 6:42 PM PDT
Bill Gates has vehemently denied ever saying 640k was enough for anybody. I imagine something like this would have more than an oft repeated quote but a whole transcript ready for mocking of the billionaire.
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A few extracts with some comments.
by September 16, 2005 2:45 AM PDT
Google, because they are in the honeymoon phase, people think that they do all things at all times in all ways. (this was use to be the MS domain)

You do me-too Google Talk, and it's a big deal. (every thing MS has produced to date is a me-too, even the MS-DOS and the Windows)

... because we have to make things very reliable and very secure if you are going to do this. ... we can start to do (this).

Our slogan is that we are going to give people tools to let them organize the **world's** information (google wants to use these tools to orginize the world's information so what makes ms panic)

we don't know everything they are up to (but we soon will)

The place we are strongest in this today is in instant messenger (which is hosted on what kind of servers??)

when did I first say "information at your fingertips"? (and when did I say "640K is ought to be sufficient!")

We bought a company called FrontBridge that's kind of a software service firm

If the next three people under you don't write code but they do deals, what do you get? You get deals

I've always believed in low-cost, high-volume (and imagine if your clients have to reinvest over and over and over...)

The value you get out of the system is a lot larger than that

... hopefully, with companies that take the long-term approach and make the investments

=================================================
Well as Dana Ludwig said "Google is in trouble", I would add to it just the word "deep"
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Please stop spreading that rumor
by rockosmodurnlife September 16, 2005 6:42 PM PDT
Bill Gates has vehemently denied ever saying 640k was enough for anybody. I imagine something like this would have more than an oft repeated quote but a whole transcript ready for mocking of the billionaire.
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Correction: GATES ON MOZILLA
by n3td3v September 18, 2005 1:28 PM PDT
Why are CNET having a chat with Gates on Google, when currently MOZILLA are the biggest threat to MICROSOFT at the moment? Gates has done this interview to smoke screen the real threat of MOZILLA. Would Gates come back to CNET and speak about the threat posed by MOZILLA? I bet you a copy of Windows Vista, he won't. Thanks, n3td3v http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v
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PLEASE STOP SAYING 'BIGGEST THREAT'
by dahkness November 1, 2005 9:25 PM PST
Microsoft has NO 'biggest threat' there is nothing other then some ******* intentionaly running microsoft into the ground that will destroy microsoft.

They will ALWAYS be an industry leader (at least for the next 100 years or until something changes drasticaly in the way we think and do bussiness.) They will always have the money, power clout and whatever else they need to stay on top. Like it or not Linux, google, MOZILLA *** MOZZILLA A THREAT TO MICROSOFT are you kidding me, the only person that is laughing harder then me is the board at microsoft.

lets try to use terms like, "The company that will be next assimilated by microsoft."

Microsoft isnt the only company to act in the way most of you non-ms people ***** about.

How about all the VOIP companies that started up a lil while back, know where they went? They got destroyed by comcast, brighthouse, and all the other cable companies.

"Pay the little guy to devlop the technology and then buy him out or stomp him to keep and inovate it." Microsoft did not invent this game, they just play it oh so well.

I have no complaints. Only the consumer benfits in the end from competition and i don't care who says what, god bless MS and bill gates.
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Correction: GATES ON MOZILLA
by n3td3v September 18, 2005 1:28 PM PDT
Why are CNET having a chat with Gates on Google, when currently MOZILLA are the biggest threat to MICROSOFT at the moment? Gates has done this interview to smoke screen the real threat of MOZILLA. Would Gates come back to CNET and speak about the threat posed by MOZILLA? I bet you a copy of Windows Vista, he won't. Thanks, n3td3v http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v
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PLEASE STOP SAYING 'BIGGEST THREAT'
by dahkness November 1, 2005 9:25 PM PST
Microsoft has NO 'biggest threat' there is nothing other then some ******* intentionaly running microsoft into the ground that will destroy microsoft.

They will ALWAYS be an industry leader (at least for the next 100 years or until something changes drasticaly in the way we think and do bussiness.) They will always have the money, power clout and whatever else they need to stay on top. Like it or not Linux, google, MOZILLA *** MOZZILLA A THREAT TO MICROSOFT are you kidding me, the only person that is laughing harder then me is the board at microsoft.

lets try to use terms like, "The company that will be next assimilated by microsoft."

Microsoft isnt the only company to act in the way most of you non-ms people ***** about.

How about all the VOIP companies that started up a lil while back, know where they went? They got destroyed by comcast, brighthouse, and all the other cable companies.

"Pay the little guy to devlop the technology and then buy him out or stomp him to keep and inovate it." Microsoft did not invent this game, they just play it oh so well.

I have no complaints. Only the consumer benfits in the end from competition and i don't care who says what, god bless MS and bill gates.
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Oh please.....
by fireball74 September 18, 2005 10:16 PM PDT
This whole article wreeks of smack talk. M$ and Billyboy just don't get it, and won't. The thing that makes Google good is that they take something others complicate and make it simple. You go to Google's frontpage and you see a simple interface. Open up Google Talk client and it's simple. Simple simply works. M$ is all about bling, flash, and graphical advertising, all of which annoy me to no end.

For the person who asked when has M$ ever failed to capture a market.... Hmmmm.... I don't remember the last time they captured one on their own....
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Oh please.....
by fireball74 September 18, 2005 10:16 PM PDT
This whole article wreeks of smack talk. M$ and Billyboy just don't get it, and won't. The thing that makes Google good is that they take something others complicate and make it simple. You go to Google's frontpage and you see a simple interface. Open up Google Talk client and it's simple. Simple simply works. M$ is all about bling, flash, and graphical advertising, all of which annoy me to no end.

For the person who asked when has M$ ever failed to capture a market.... Hmmmm.... I don't remember the last time they captured one on their own....
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Well said....
by fireball74 September 18, 2005 10:31 PM PDT
3 cheers! It's so easy for Billyboy to play on the consumers already scewed view of software licensing. FOSS doesn't mean subpar, or somehow it's less quality software. What it means is that I can download the source and audit the software if needed, or even port it to whatever OS I feel like installing this week. The Freedom of FOSS also stands for the freedom of choice, and from vendor lockin. It's hard for Billyboy to understand how this could have some value to people. It's almost like saying "You don't want choice, take the bug-ridden crap we'll give you and like it. And oh yeah, the next upgrade's gonna cost ya twice as much!" <evil laughter ensues> The point here is that he wants people to see FOSS as subpar because it's better for his bottom line....
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Not really.
by dahkness November 1, 2005 8:56 PM PST
I think it's more like; more then less PC users don't edit code, don't know code, nor how to edit it. They don't want to search for the newest build, or the most stable build, they just want the thing to work. Everyone ****** about Microsoft?s bottom line, but i really think shaping the future is more of an interest to them. MS's bottom line will always be. That argument is so old.

Let's just do away with the software industry and turn to linux and sourceforge for all our needs, I?m sure the computer system infrastructure will flourish compared to present day where companies like MS ACTUALLY MADE A PROFIT for all their hard work. God what ********.
Well said....
by fireball74 September 18, 2005 10:31 PM PDT
3 cheers! It's so easy for Billyboy to play on the consumers already scewed view of software licensing. FOSS doesn't mean subpar, or somehow it's less quality software. What it means is that I can download the source and audit the software if needed, or even port it to whatever OS I feel like installing this week. The Freedom of FOSS also stands for the freedom of choice, and from vendor lockin. It's hard for Billyboy to understand how this could have some value to people. It's almost like saying "You don't want choice, take the bug-ridden crap we'll give you and like it. And oh yeah, the next upgrade's gonna cost ya twice as much!" <evil laughter ensues> The point here is that he wants people to see FOSS as subpar because it's better for his bottom line....
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Not really.
by dahkness November 1, 2005 8:56 PM PST
I think it's more like; more then less PC users don't edit code, don't know code, nor how to edit it. They don't want to search for the newest build, or the most stable build, they just want the thing to work. Everyone ****** about Microsoft?s bottom line, but i really think shaping the future is more of an interest to them. MS's bottom line will always be. That argument is so old.

Let's just do away with the software industry and turn to linux and sourceforge for all our needs, I?m sure the computer system infrastructure will flourish compared to present day where companies like MS ACTUALLY MADE A PROFIT for all their hard work. God what ********.
...use Google for Technet
by September 23, 2005 7:53 AM PDT
>>"Our search API is way better than their search API"<<
I don't know what Bill is smokin', but whenever I need to find something on Technet, I use Google. The Technet search engine usually comes up "0 Hits". Microsoft's search API can't even find Windows error mesages, on THEIR own website .... please!!!
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...use Google for Technet
by September 23, 2005 7:53 AM PDT
>>"Our search API is way better than their search API"<<
I don't know what Bill is smokin', but whenever I need to find something on Technet, I use Google. The Technet search engine usually comes up "0 Hits". Microsoft's search API can't even find Windows error mesages, on THEIR own website .... please!!!
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