Comments on: Anonymous hackers take on the Church of Scientology

A vigilante group is threatening to expel the Church of Scientology from the Internet.

[OmegaWolf747]

Hacker heroes!

Anonymous aren't criminals! They're heroes for standing up to Internet censorship! The real criminals are entities like the RIAA and MPAA who think they own our media and equipment and can tell us what to do. I hope Anonymous goes after them next.

[Uxbridgelane]

Hackers are Heroes????

OmegaWolf; "heroes" are usually defined as persons who inspire others by "heroic" actions, having some respect for life and risking ones personal safety without regard for the consequences to one's personal safety. Heroes aren't afraid of the bright light of day and are willing to stand up and take the heat for a good cause. Those that hope one can willy nilly dispatch a percieved enemy real or imagined to the dust bin by a "war" of rumor play a dangerous game; making threats, spreading innuendos, rumors, unsubstantiated claims, character assasination and like is propoganda and it's use under the cloak of secrecy is the tool of psychopolititions, the unscrupulous, terrorists, cowards and their ilk. Hardly the work of "heroes". Those who wish to be "heroic" do not engage in smear campaigns in secret but rather are willing to suffer the 'slings and arrows of life for their convictions; they do not foolishly think they will escape the moral, legal, criminal consequences of their actions if they err. Life demands a price for one's convictions and actions, to think that hiding behind a veil of secrecy is "heroic" is preporsterous and an illusion and no protection at all for tne unscrupulous; hardly the tool of heroes.

[Fictology]

Vigilantes?

Relax, will you? It's just someone else's description. It's just a matter of semantics as far as I'm concerned. "Vigilantes" is not the word I'd choose to describe this particular group because it leaves a bitter taste in some mouths. Besides, I was just turning a phrase to expose the ridiculousness of a point of view. I DID find that warped point of view very offensive, however. Regardless, who but a Scientologist or an ignoramus would object to what I wrote? You apparently are one of the two.

Vigilantes are usually associated with murder. In this case, the "vigilantes" in question may actually PREVENT some murders and suicides. Fewer people may be brainwashed by this group as a result of this war, if you will.

I don't lump all vigilantes into the same mold. Likewise for hackers. In some cases, they right some wrongs that can't be "righted" due to the faults or limits of the legal system. In this case, I'm all for what this group is doing and hope the Feds are secretly cheering them on if not involved (I hope they are). I want to see Scientology exposed for what it really is. I'd LOVE to see the government close their seedy tax-free operation down, grab their assets, and throw their scheming "misleaders" in jail!

[Donbury]

Dangerous?

What is your evidence that the scientologists are dangerous? I was excommunicated by Hubbard and I know hundreds of scientologists and ex-scientologists and I never met one who was dangerous -- actually quite the contrary. They have lots of ideas I disagree with. So what? I think many Democrats and Republicans have dangerous ideas. Congress is a hotbed of dangerous ideas. So what? I'm supposed to put them in jail? How about astrologers, people who believe the earth was created 6000 years ago, people who believe we can run our automobiles on water, and the garden variety Bushbashers? I'm sure there isn't anyone who has commented here who doesn't harbor ideas that would meet the standards of Xenu absurdity. I hope you aren't under the illusion that the United States is populated by rational people! If the scientologists should be shipped off the concentration camps, what about the rest of the population? There won't be enough rational people left over to guard them! What are you asking for -- a Kristallnacht where we all run around and smash up the businesses of scientologists? Hubbard was afraid of people who had ideas better than his own. That's where the term SP comes from. Fictology seems to have his own definition of Suppressive Person and a way of handling them no different than Hubbard at his worst. And you aren't dangerous for the exact same reason that Hubbard isn't dangerous.

[ask1001]

Interesting. no more then that.

hero's? I don't think so. Interesting? you bet. I went to the web site linked and theres some fun stuff on it. Anonymous seems to have some skilled hackers in it, not that i know much about that, and i don't really care about the church of Scientology. But I will be following story's on Anonymous for awhile. You just have to love black ops net groups, and to top it all, theres some noteworthy philosophical implications to groups like this.
P.S. I love their end note, it feed the little hard Sifi/cyber punk fanatic in me.

[mikescnetswebsite]

'Anonymous Hackers' - Please

This whole story is such a scam. First, the video is an absurd homemade empty threat. The Church of Scientology's website is still running strong and where was this reported 'hacking' of their site. Any proof to this? I doubt it. I think the whole thing is one giant yarn. Hey, and I have a suggestion for people who don't like this or any religion - ignore them. Was that so hard? Don't be a geek about it.

[Anonymous007]

Of course it's back up.

There is proof of course. It's been all over the news. The Scientologists mere patched it up. Perhaps you should peer over the edge of well before you decide how deep it is.

[Dalkorian]

Tom

Tom Cruise locked himself in the closet ...
why won't Tom Cruise come out of the closet?

LOL!

[Arthur Blenton]

Oh yeah, it's on

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[Processloh]

10:th of Februari

On the 10:th of februari Anonymous worldwide will protest the inhuman treatment of scientologists by their own cult.

Protect your freedom of speech and your right not to be harrassed by a cult that murders its own members. Writing the things we write here is a capital offense in the Eyes of Co$. Do you really want to give them power by being silent bystanders while they infiltrate our governments and attempt to overthrow our democracies?

[Anonymous007]

Expect Us.

3/15/08.

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
Expect us.

[Nelsen]

Beyond Absurd

I've been a Scientologist for over 20 years. This is just about the strangest attack on an organized religion I've ever seen, Can you picture the uproar if these types of threats and attacks were being aimed at the Catholic Church?

Instead this has turned into an internet joke. Some sick people are behind this.

[Wooj]

Scientology was rightfully attacked. Hackers Anon will prevail. I believe that if people want to send a message, they do it the right way. Hail ANON!

[jormaxell222]

Why do you all spend so much of your focus on either side of this?...for real...let people believe in scientology if thats what they want to believe...who cares if they spend all their money on it, if thats what makes them happy so be it, its no different then buying liquor or or video games or clothes. whatever makes them happy if some one wants to join them and spend their money so be it they aren't you you aren't them. and this anonymous?...no matter how much people want hackers to be gone they won't be gone, this anonymus legion is the same as the scientology people, if taking out scientology is what they believe they have to do so be it. They aren't hurting anyone they aren't stealing your identity. Their just doing something they think is just. You all need to forget this stupid and prideful arguements. We have neighbours with cancer, friends with no roofs over their heads, family members being robbed, species of animals that have been on this planet longer than us being elimanted. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone or saying anyone's opinion is wrong, I just think we should forget religon forget pride forget all the stupid **** like this and maybe put our minds to something benefitial to mankind. I know most of you won't take my words to heart, but if you do....scientologists dont spend $300,00 of your hard earned dollars on your spiritual beliefs... spend your mind on that, your heart on that. That 300,000 on some families that are going to lose their home or spend on some little kid who needs a new kidney who cant afford it, your religon should never empty your pocket. Anonymous? I have no problem with what your doing...but with the things you all can do....forget people who wanna spend their money that way or express different opinions online, take down some child pornographers online, take down idiots spreading prejiduce words, or for god sake make your own organization to TRUELY help man, taking down scientology won't solve any problem. There will always be a man with a great money scheme who is able to convince thousands that he is a prophet. That's what humans do. If you anonymous really wanna help people, make a website that takes donations to help the homeless or the diseased, post things online preaching of freedom of speech and good humanitarian choices. Bascially we all could be making things better, All I am saying, Is give peace a chance

[jormaxell222]

Scientologists, it is your choice to believe in that religon. Period. Anonymous, our grandparents and parents fought wars for your right to say what you believe.But really everyone, there are so many more problems than taking down scientology or worshiping some guy who claimed to be a prophet? There will always be rediculous beliefs and there will always be those trying to destroy the believers. Thats how humans roll. But scientoloists. spend your heart on your religon not your money, spend your money on a poor dying boy or a homeless little girls, anonymous use your computer skills to take down child pornographers and scammers and such. All that I'm saying, Is give peace a chance.