Comments on: Note to NBC's boss: Dude, try watching your own channel sometime

Jeff Zucker's mad at Jon Stewart for lampooning CNBC. Note to the Zuck-meister: The fact that you don't get it is another reason to worry about the future of the mainstream media.

[Romriech]

Amen. The thing is, Jon Stewart is the best journalist on TV. He's even critical of the Obama administration in a fair and even-handed way.

[karpenterskids]

He wasn't always that way during the campaign, but now that Obama's president, and there's nothing anyone can do about it, he's doing a good job as far as criticism and jibes go.

Even I'm impressed. :)

[ordaj]

Sadly, Charles, it's because in Capitalism it fast becomes less about the quality of the product than the money that can be made.

The whole idea is to get something out there and make money off of it. From there, it becomes about squeezing more money out of it and monetizing all the correlaries rather than whatever the product was. So, you get (with TV), not offending sponsors and doing everything possible to please sponsors and getting more money out of sponsors. And how can they supplement the money they get from the sponsors with add-ons.

What about the product, though? Never mind that, money's being made.

[mediocrates--2008]

Yep. Communism now.... there was a model of efficiency and consumer responsiveness

[rubenerd]

Yes of course mediocrates--2008, the only alternative to unfettered capitalism is communism, sheesh!

In all seriousness though ordaj is right on the money, it's become milking the cash cow rather than producing quality products and nowhere else is this more obvious than in the traditional media industry. I could talk about music companies at this point too, but we all know that to death.

[fuzzyCWD]

in the words of Homer J Simpson..."dough"

[Dave_man1123]

I bash a lot of CNET articles, but this is the best one I have read in along time.

Zucker saying that CNBS didn't cause the financial meltdown is irrelevant. The fact is that they had the knowledge and expertise to know that this was in the making. They may not have had the foresight to understand how bad it would be, but they had a responsibility to report the risks to the public the risks that were being taken with their money. CNBC failed the public. CNBC (among others) failed to report the reality of the situation. Furthermore, it seems that they failed to report the reality of the situation because they had ulterior motives.

I love Jon Stewart. Why the hell is he doing this type of investigating reporting? Because the people that are supposed to be are not doing it. It's not fair to him. I look forward to the day that he can safely retire to fart jokes and other nonsense. I'm sure he does too.

[rmva]

CNBC needs to explain clearly and repeatedly that their target market is day-traders and that every piece of advice their book-talkers give you has a shelf life of 12 hours.

[dumbspammers]

Your shelf-life estimate is two orders of magnitude too great; four-and-a-half minutes is much closer to the mark. CNBC's "financial advice" would quickly ruin anyone who didn't have a dedicated buy-and-sell bot (and a couple of million they could afford to lose).

[myles taylor]

Yea I agree. They have their heads up where the sun doesn't shine and they need to pull them out and actually do some decent reporting.

[cowspeak]

CNBC is totally not a trusted source. I've been an investor for 30 years and the stuff they promote is unreal.

[CreativeGreenius]

First off, like Cramer himself in the Stewart interview I can't believe what a gutless, whining girly man Zucker has become on this issue. Talk about two big mouth blowhards who have rolled over and offered up their soft, pink bellies for the gutting as they emasculate themselves in the age old loser's tradition. These former bully boys who were so prone to shouting their own praise have been completely and utterly unmasked as wussy wimps without either the courage or the balls to defend themselves.

Bravo to Stewart for exposing them with nothing more than the courage to tell the truth.

Zucker jumped the shark a long time ago and has lost whatever touch he might have once had. He's over and he'll be the last guy in the room to figure it out. The cluetrain stopped at his station every day, too bad Jeff never bothered to get on board.

Talk about a pair of quivering mice who have no idea what world they're now living in, it's Zucker and Cramer.

[Doink42]

Got a bad feeling we are in antebellum and this is merely the taunting. These CEO's need reality checks. Just saying something does not make the public swallow it. AND the public is now listening.

[ghostofitpast]

The "reality check" is that NBC is in the entertainment business. There was a time when "NBC News" (which included "Today," believe it or not) was such a reputable brand that it was part of the essential diet for Washington insiders. However, that time is now so long in the past that most of your readers were probably born after it had elapsed! The irony is that Comedy Central is also in the entertainment business. However, they hired Stewart (and his supporting writers) to do satire; and Stewart happens to be a first-rate performer of satire (including the funny faces and fart noises). If you want to talk about "reality checks," the difference between Cramer and Stewart is that Stewart knows he is an entertainer!

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2009/03/in-comedy-begins-responsibilities.html

[gorgeclimber]

Obviously Zucker is a screw-up just like that fool Cramer. Stewart was right-on.

[martin_c_e]

Coop is just wrong on this one. CNBC and financial journalism in general is always boosting something; but they didn't cause this meltdown. The Fed did, with a lot of help from the US Congress over the last 30 years.
Stewart is just a clown while Cramer has a grasp of what the market is all about. Most Americans are totally clueless about the market. By the way for every bull on CNBC they have a naysayer at the same time.

[charlie cooper]

as per my post, i'm not blaming the meltdown on cnbc. the scope of what transpired is far more complicated than being a knee jerk reaction to what bloviator A or B might say on CNBC. but i do contend that there are serious issues with the quality of their commentary & reportage.

[kannuc]

you have it the wrong way round - Stewart pointed out what a lack of grasp Cramer has, and, he's right. Cramer and the rest of CNBC are just shrills for Wall Street. An industry that so sickened me that I left my high paying management job because they didn't give a dam about the customer. It was all about making commissions.

[Solar1234abc]

Gentleman and Women, the first rule of not taking responsibility for one's or an organization's actions is to deny, deny, deny. Classic, yet basic Propaganda 101, which should be surprising to none, for CNET is in the Propaganda business; we all know this. There is no Journalism in MSM, we all know this.

To debate the specifics and the mems' Zuckerman is offering up is only propagating his red herrings; you know this-just thought I'd remind you.

[NocturnalCT]

Yesterday Jon actually made fun of his own performance in the whole 'interview' with Cramer. Got to appreciate him taking himself not too seriously.

I have to give Cramer credit for showing up for that interview. He must have known he was going into a grinder. It's not like Jon is freewheeling, he's got a very sharp staff who provides lots of talking points before he gets started. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that :)

As for Zucker, well he's clearly a crybaby. How he ever made it to CEO is a miracle. Instead of admitting that their 'advise' has been horribly wrong and making a vague promise to do better he's taking genuine offense. Stupid. Now he looks like a fool. It could have been free advertising or he could at least have scored sympathy points.

[Solar1234abc]

Put in more simple terms, Zucker ( sorry for getting his name wrong in my above ) is simply practicing: Deny and Misdirect 101. THIS IS WHAT LEADERSHIP DOES, you know this. lol

[Goodbye Helicopter]

haha. Guys in suits suck again.
Zucker: FAIL

[charodon]

Why does "bill of particulars" link right back to this story?

[Len Bullard]

Ummm.... Charlie, do you remember when this site was a small company hyping the web bubble? Now you are hyping the cloud as hard as you can. Why? Sells ads.

We've all been participating in the race to the bottom of credible reporting.

[DrollTroll]

Jon Stewart is basically an opportunist. I'm no fan of Jim Cramer or Wall St or the capitalist system, but it is easy to pick apart a clown like Cramer and the financial reporting industry in hindsight. Stewart asked Cramer rhetorically why he (Cramer) didn't know or realize the exorbitant returns couldn't just keep on going and Cramer replied because it had been going on like that from 1999 to 2007...which I find to be a plausible answer. If Stewart thought this was all illusory and fixed, he himself made no mention of such at any earlier time. He should've put his money where his mouth is like I did. In or around 1999 I made $1000 in AOL in 3 months (on a small investment); I sold, paid capital gains taxes, and felt great because I had made enough. I wasn't greedy and I wasn't fooled that it was something that was going to continue indefinitely. Also, I know markets are manipulated. I invested in the least manipulated or most managed entities--i.e. public utilities which are state regulated. The dividend was good but appreciation was small. However, I felt these were the least manipulable. So, did Stewart buy utilities or recommend such strategies? What would he have done from 1999 to 2007? Run with the herd no doubt. Doctors who just several years were recommending Vitamin E supplements may now be looking pretty foolish. It was the current state of knowledge then and everyone was doing it. Don't praise Stewart for Monday morning quarterbacking.