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Yahoo could announce a reorganization in its technology group and a significant search-ad partnership with Google as soon as today.

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by FutureGuy June 12, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
Yahoo is a mess, they should first send that Jerry guy packing.
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by NWLB June 12, 2008 1:34 PM PDT
The irony, is even if Microsoft had managed to buy them, they'd have wound up screwing it all up anyway, and still ended as a tiny second or third place player.

The amusing part is simply seeing a big company run like crazy, to avoid being sucked into the MS void.
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by ross613 June 12, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
The irony is - for those like NWLB who refuse to see it - just how many anti-MS folk there are out there willing to argue the exact opposite point of view on antitrust the second it's Google that's sitting in the defendant's box. As for what's amusing in all this: it's just how daft Yahoo management has to be to think it is either making a sound business decision walking away from MS (which is, still very much, the most successful software company on Earth), or that its own shareholders - who can see the value Microsoft brings to the table - want Microsoft in at the behest of the apparent hubris and prejudices of Yahoo management.
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by romancoor June 12, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
and now what will happen with advertisers like me who use Yahoo...less clicks for us which will lead me to recommend pulling my yahoo ads/spend in favor of Google and other engines..what a joke Yahoo is. First, they negelected my million dollar plus account years back, denied anything was wrong with there system(inflated click prices..never got even a sorry from them), thought they were kings of the world and now they are crumbling before our eyes

Showing Google ads on Yahoo...why will anyone even bother going to Yahoo anymore....MSN was smart and not caving into there BS....they have been in trouble for a long, long time
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by notesrules June 12, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
ross613, I rooted for Yahoo! remaining independent and am glad to see Microsoft lose again. There were questions Microsoft was unwilling to answer that might have persuaded me to reconsider my thoughts. Some questions were (and are): What was the long-term strategy after buying all of Yahoo!, what was the long-term strategy for buying part of Yahoo!, what would Yahoo! shareholders have gained in the long-term after Microsoft bought all of Yahoo! IF (not when) Microsoft fell further behind Google. There are more questions about how Microsoft's deals would have helped (not hurt) Yahoo! in the short-term and long-term. Folks have focused on Yahoo!' s inability to compete successfully against Google. How about some reporting on Microsoft's inability to compete successfully against Yahoo!? Do you have some answers for me and others? I am more than willing to read what you have to write.
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by notesrules June 12, 2008 2:21 PM PDT
ross613, I rooted for Yahoo! remaining independent and am glad to see Microsoft lose again. There were questions Microsoft was unwilling to answer that might have persuaded me to reconsider my thoughts. Some questions were (and are): What was the long-term strategy after buying all of Yahoo!, what was the long-term strategy for buying part of Yahoo!, what would Yahoo! shareholders have gained in the long-term after Microsoft bought all of Yahoo! IF (not when) Microsoft fell further behind Google. There are more questions about how Microsoft's deals would have helped (not hurt) Yahoo! in the short-term and long-term. Folks have focused on Yahoo!' s inability to compete successfully against Google. How about some reporting on Microsoft's inability to compete successfully against Yahoo!? Do you have some answers for me and others? I am more than willing to read what you have to write.
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by publish1 June 12, 2008 3:04 PM PDT
What's really amazing is the venomous hatred of MS simply because they are successful. That hatred stems from nothing more than the fact that they made a heck of a lot of money developing and marketing their products.

Now, these folks seem to think that MS should make all of their products available free and anyone who likes should be able to alter them as they see fit.

For those who put their work out there for anyone to use free of charge, I say Thank You. For those who develop a product so good and so powerful that it has the ability to command a good price, I say Good Luck!

My part is to either show my liking by buying or express my displeasure by passing it by. But to attempt to bring down entire corporations because they simply won't allow competitors to exploit products as building blocks for their own, seems to be the extreme antipathy of the American free enterprise system.
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by t8 June 12, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
It's not because they are/were successful that people hate them, it is because of their monopolistic abuses.
After all Google and IBm are successful and they are much liked.

Microsoft have stolen, denied access to API's, copied, and done exclusive deals to kill lots of good and smart technologies.
Then they charge the customer high prices for buggy software and we are the ones who end up dealing with the viruses.

Microsoft has 2 problems.

One is there past behaviour which means their image suffers.
The other is that the Windows platform is big and clunky and the Web is starting to replace it because using online services on any device beats the hell out of installing gigabytes of clunky files.
On the Web platform, you don't have driver issues because everything is processed on the server and delivered to you in lite HTML and Javascript.

Also, how often does Windows have big hits on it's platform. Not often these days and whenever there is, you can bet Microsoft will try and take the idea as their own.
But the Web has hits all the time, and the success stories of companies developing for the Web are much more plentiful than the ones who develop for Windows.

If you don't believe me, then ask yourself why VCs do not finance ideas based on Windows, but put their money instead into Web tech.

VCs know that a killer app on Windows will be vulnerable to Microsoft bundling their own version and hence they will only ever have limited success. But the Web is not owned by a greedy corporation and for that reason, people can sell their wares without having to worry about a selfish platform provider putting them out of business.

Today, people choose Google because they want to. No one is tied to Google. You can switch tehm off very easily and because of that, they actually compete to get your attention and business.
But people are often forced to use Microsoft, because Microsoft is bundled and for that reason, tey can afford to give you crap and still get money for it.
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