Comments on: Apple answers call for iPhone applications

New software development kit and soon-to-be-launched application store show the true power of the iPhone.

[6e0rg3]

This reads more like a press release from Apple, than a news article.

[yacahuma]

the cell phone manufacturer like the car industry keep product pathetic products. I am glad apple finally delivered the new iphone. Even nokia n95's users look with envy at the iphone. There is simply no competition in style an function. I cant wait to buy it and join as a developer. The only things I would like is a front camera for video conferencing and that the iphone could be used in other networks.

[jrm125]

Trust me, N95 users do not have envy. If anything they chuckle at you all.

The N95 comes with far more features INCLUDED without the apps store. All it lacks is the touch screen which is really nothing more than a gimmick.

[Magallanes]

For every 1000 developer on windows and linux, there are 5 mac "developer", and mostly they are designer.

So, to bring the sdk only for OSX was the first nail in the coffin for 3rd party software on Iphone but a bunch of initial applications, and not to say custom application (for example for corporate users).

Apple wants new programs but dislike developer. -> <-

[Thomas, David]

You have me laughing my arse off, and rolling all over the floor!

What coffin?! What nails?! You must not be much of a developer to be dependent upon a single programming language. This is a terrible limitation. For your OWN sake, take a good look at OSX, the frameworks, and the SDKs.

[Xtoo]

The new apps for the iPhone are insane. In a coupe of years, this new platform will beat any cell phone, hand held computer and gaming device. Many were looking for another hardware wow but this time the wow is in the applications themselves. The world now has an endless capability of communicating and entertaining in a high class - feature rich platform called iPhone.

[Vegaman_Dan]

And still lacks the simple ability to perform a copy and paste function- something even the Newton could do.

*mindboggling at that level of ineptitude*

[bitchmaster]

Finally an article that gets what the iPhone is all about. Not just hardware design and hardware features. Its the underlying OS and SDK. Thats the killer part of the iPhone. Developers are already producing some of the most amazing things on the iPhone that none of the competition are able to do on their handset. Simply because their OS is crap and their SDK is basically junk.

[open-mind]

I think you're totally and completely wrong about OS X limiting development. The iPhone development tools are included free with a $595 (Amazon price) Mac Mini, and they are superior (according to most reviewers) compared to the dev tools for the other mobile platforms. If $595 is holding you back, then you're not serious about being an iPhone developer.

[johnericanderson]

MobileMe is innovative? How long has this been available with Windows? Let's see, like 12 years or so? I'm so impressed. "It's like Exchange for the rest of us..." Yay!

[johnericanderson]

Apple is innovative? "It's like Exchange for the rest of us..." Windows has had this for like 10-12 years now. Even my Windows Mobile Cell phone has had this for years. Go Apple!

[gmon750]

Development tools are always the least-expensive component of developing for a given platform. Sure, one must have a modern Mac for the development and Windows PC's are left in the dust. At the minimum, a Mac Mini will take care of your development needs. If that is beyond your reach, then you are not the kind of developer Apple (or any Joe-User) is looking for anyways. If you have an iPhone application you believe will be the next killer-app, then the cost of entry is the least of your worries.

[Thomas, David]

Someone made the comment that development tools are always the least expensive component for a given platform. In the case of Microsoft, this simply isn't true. Linux, Unix, OSX, heck, even IBM mainframes, and mid-range computers. But NOT Windows.

[DrtyDogg]

http://www.microsoft.com/express/ free must be to much money for you.

[Thomas, David]

"express" and childs version of the their development kit. Try MSDN to get something comparable to what you get for free from Apple, Linux, or Unix. Basically, 2200, to 3000 dollars every year for MSDN Universal.

[DrtyDogg]

Just shows your ignorance.

[Thomas, David]

Incredible.
So you are now claiming "express" is the same as architect, and you get the same documentation, support, and online access as the MSDN subscription?
Oh, of course not, not to mention I've been a developer now for 25 years, with 10 of this immersed in Windows development. I KNOW THE COSTS. AND CLAIMING EXPRESS AS THE SOLUTION, OR SOME OTHER CHEAPENED VERSION IS PLAIN BULL-SH-T!!
Microsoft Press produces reams of money, etc., on top of this. ALL OF THIS INFO, AND SUPPORT, THAT MICROSOFT CHARGES FOR ... APPLE DOES NOT!
Take your childish, idiotic, shill comments and stick where they belong!!

[DrtyDogg]

"ALL OF THIS INFO, AND SUPPORT, THAT MICROSOFT CHARGES FOR ... APPLE DOES NOT!" http://developer.apple.com/products/ $3500.00 for what is comparable to an MSDN subscription. By the way typing in all caps will not change facts. All of Microsofts SDKs are available for free from MSDN without an MSDN subscription. Basically all an MSDN subscriptions gives you are copies of their OSes past and present to develop on, as well as their server technologies to do the same. In your 25 years of experience you should know this. Next up in your rant: "ALL OF THIS INFO, AND SUPPORT, THAT MICROSOFT CHARGES FOR ... APPLE DOES NOT!" The cost of a technical support incident from ADC is not free it is $195.00. And again all caps doesn't change facts. While Visual studio is a great development platform, the express versions provide many of the same features for free. I personally have developed several applications using only the express versions. I personally use Visual Studio more but that's because I get a copy with my MSDN subscription. XCode is also a great development platform, I also get that with my ADC membership. Then you break down to name calling, who is childish for that? Who is the shill who only comments on these boards to praise Apple? Who is the idiot for not knowing the facts. One other thing Microsoft doesn't offer the MSDN Universal subscritpion anymore, and hasn't for 3 years. By all means though keep showing your ignorance.

[subbu_tnj]

The hidden terms of the iPhone2 contract seems to be unfair to consumers. Everytime we take out the sim card for temporary use with another handset and put it back to iPhone we need to "re-activate" the phone and the contract gets extended for 2 years from the "re-activation" date. I have to switch to my old Palm Treo temporarily for some calls so as to use the call recording feature. If I keep doing this I will be on contract with AT&T for my whole life. A "bonded customer". Isn't this an unfair trade practice??

[fyared]

hey, i live in lebanon, and i need a way to limit call cost in my iphone 3g, i can't find it!!!?