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Comments on: Sony CEO Stringer: You can't afford our best TV

Howard Stringer on LCDs, OLEDs, Blu-ray, iPods, and the movie experience.

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by aka_tripleB May 28, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
And that's why Sony has problems with profitbility, it sell crap that no one can afford.
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by aka_tripleB May 28, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
And that's why Sony had problems with profitibility, it sells crap no one can afford.
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by sjsobol May 28, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
Cutting-edge? Exactly what is cutting-edge about Sony PC's? Exactly what justifies the prices they charge?

Sony's problem is that they cost the most, but in many cases they don't have the innovation or features to justify their prices.
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by Composer_1777 May 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT
Carbon fiber, finger print readers built in, santa rosa technology, the most advanced chipsets, the first to get the most powerful intel chips, the fastest hard drives and their PCs never have any major errors, even on vista i have had no major errors. ALL of their PCs justify the price, plus MADE in the USA if u order online and made in JAPAN if u buy a laptop in their store.
by sal-magnone May 28, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
Useful, very useful.
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by punterjoe May 28, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
I really want to like Sony, but they make it impossible. Sony has made me regret every product of theirs that I have ever purchased. They remind me of the corporate version of the "cool kid" in high school who had style, talent ....and an utterly abusive personality. Since I long ago shed my masochistic ways, I can't imagine the circumstances under which I'd ever give Sony another cent of my hard earned money.
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by No Man May 28, 2008 12:14 PM PDT
Trust me, Stringer... there are millions of "typical consumers" who are begging you to get rid of the craplets. All of them.
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by ralfthedog May 28, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
I like allot of what Sony does, however, OLED is just plain dumb. The O stands for Organic. These devices will have the same problems that CRT and Plasma displays have, Rasterburn.

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I can see using OLED in disposable devices and devices that are not dependent on video quality (Non media cell phones). They should not be used on a TV. You will get black bars burned in.



Sony wants to be a high end company, that is cool. They will need to focus on quality to succeed. (I like the idea of a Sony spinnoff brand that is ultra high end.)

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by curmudgeon22 May 28, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
check ur facts. latest OLEDs are at the same 60,000-hr-life and similar burn susceptibility (aging) as current PDPs and LCDs. Plus, OLED comes much closer to film in terms of color gamut coverage, contrast, & view angle than any other panel tech. ie: better quality, more accurate images.
by fdunn3 May 28, 2008 2:03 PM PDT
Punterjoe, I couldn't have said it better. If it was the only thing that would keep me alive and had the Sony name on it, I'd have to pass. Been burned too many times by their "throw-away" culture of products. You throw them away when they break a week or two after they are out of warranty because if you can get the parts they are just as or nearly as expensive as just getting a non Sony equivalent product. NEVER EVER AGAIN!
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by paulej May 28, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
Sony is innovative, but greed is hurting them. I simply stopped buying their products, because they are too greedy. If left to Sony, memory would cost four times as much as it does today. With nearly every innovation they bring to market, they try to dominate the market with it through price control and royalty-bearing licensing schemes, and expect people to pay a premium. The Sony memory stick is perhaps the best example of this. When it was introduced, it was really expensive. Even today the memory stick costs way more than a comparable SD card ($35.72 for 2GB Memory Stick versus $11.88 for an SD card on Amazon). The TVs they offer are similar to other manufacturers, but cost much more. I am even more surprised after reading in this article that the products are just re-branded products from other manufacturers. What Sony needs to do is innovate, but then focus on volume sales at reasonable margins. Perhaps a 5% margin is OK, but I wonder why it is so low since the prices of all Sony products are more than 5% higher than comparable brands. Who is making the other 20% to 300%?
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by RompStar_420 May 28, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
Hmmmm, I own a PS3 and I love that machine. No other manufacturer allows you to install an OS like Linux and have it for other uses, (even 'tho no Flash is yet supported), but it's still cool. The games are of amazing quality and so is Blue Ray. I owned 2 Sony TV's and I preyed for them to break so that I could get a new one, finally I gave them away for free so that I could get a flat screen HDTV. I remember a long time ago I had a cassette player that broke, but that's about it. I never had anything break for me other than that.
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by ewelch May 28, 2008 8:22 PM PDT
The man is deluded. Sure the PS3 is a great game console, and will help them. And they make the best TVs. But beyond that they are at a complete loss. Walkman phones are crap compared to iPhones. Their players are crap compared to iPhones. And their "most expensive" PCs are made of cheap plastic last time I looked. And their monitors are more expensive than Apples, and they accept the LCDs that Apple rejects.

How is that leading the market in those areas?
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by Composer_1777 May 29, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
Really, then why is my vaio carbon fiber. I pod and i phone music quality is garbage compared to sony music players, sony also has the best sounding headphones and speakers.
by randomthot May 29, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
punterjoe & fdunn3,
i agree, but there is also another factor. most of the best sony products don't even make it to the U.S. anymore. Mainstream U.S. stores receive middle-line and low-line products. If you want good stuff, you have to go online and search Sony's site, and hunt down the product online. As far as their PC's, I think they're the next "Apple---" overpriced PCs.
If Apple drops iPhone into a lower line, it'll eat Sony's lunch on Walkman cellphones.

paulej, i also agree...sony's uber-proprietary attitude is getting old.
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by Composer_1777 May 29, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
Sony is always the first to use cutting edge technology and materials. My laptop right now is a vaio it is a year old and it is Carbon fiber.... Is your PC carbon fiber with built in finger print reader, i think not. Sony is not for average Consumers whom are too poor and cheap to buy the most advanced products. Sony is the first always, just like with OLED.

Sony vaios that are custom made ARE MADE IN THE USA , Trump made in the USA with cheap chinese products, you can't.
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by Composer_1777 May 29, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
Apple macs are crap because they are always the last to get new technology, it took them forever just to get the newest Intel chips.
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by drunknsm1ke June 1, 2008 7:16 PM PDT
A lot of people forget that Sony is one of the most innovative companies in electronics. Sony offers the best LCDs, pioneered the Blu-Ray technology, and is the first to release the OLED tv. Why wouldn't you pay more for a quality product like Sony? Arguments of XBox360 vs. PS3 are done, the PS3 is clearly the better unit and although more expensive, it turned out to be the better buy. $659 cdn for a Blu-Ray player and gaming capability, not to mention a free online network? Even then it was still the better unit, the only thing it is lacking are games. OLED tv's, yes they retail for a rediculous amount of money, but nobody else is marketing it right now. Obviously when another company markets the OLED technology, Sony's prices will drop to compete. And there is no way you can compare a consumer Sony Ericcson phone with an iPhone, they're in different categories, not to mention price brackets. Sony's E-Book Reader is also a very popular and quite a practical thing to have, it beats carrying around a bunch of books in your backpack. The Sony Rolly, a dancing mp3 player, is a big kid's toy in that it serves no purpose other than amusement, yet it is still the only dancing portable mp3 player. Having said all of this, yes I am a canadian Sony sales rep, so I feel obliged to defend the company I work for.
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by drunknsm1ke June 1, 2008 7:19 PM PDT
Btw, Composer_1777, VGNSZ650 eh. Nice to see someone who values a quality laptop.
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by wrs388 June 2, 2008 8:06 AM PDT
I like Sony, but I don't buy their TV's, laptops, or any of their other electronic devices, other then the PS3.
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by Syrione June 4, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
Well I have a PS2 for 6 years replaced the lens once, and it still works even if I do play it for 8-10 hrs per day and about 4-7 days a wk . But it is an ASIAN model PS2. So quality wise I don't have a problem with Sony. Mainly because there one of the companies (only gaming console company actually) who considers the Philippines and other "small world" countries as worthwhile customers to service. BTW parts are not as expensive as other sources too.

But on the other hand the PS3s initial generation of BLU-RAY lenses were actually crappy. But the current generation is said to be stabilizing. New technology is like that . NEVER buy the initial release as bugs/defects tend to still exist. BTW at least it doesn't have a 43-65%(not made up this was given by the insurer of that handles the 360) rate of occurence like the X360 (red ring of death).

Note I'm not related in anyway to Sony but they don't deserve the negativity they get on the net.
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by benjaminstraight July 24, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
Well maybe it is true.
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