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Comments on: FBI rescinds secret order for Internet Archive records

After legal challenge, police agency agrees in settlement to withdraw "national security letter" that sought information about an archive user and lift gag order that kept it under wraps.

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by colamix May 7, 2008 6:18 PM PDT
You, Mr. Kahle, are a true patriot. While giant Telcos convive with The Government of Fear, persons such as yourself making a stance with limited resources and while gagged is a shining example that all is not lost. Every Republican voter and American has been deceived by this overbearing Administration, thank you for fighting back.
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by anthony f wood May 7, 2008 7:41 PM PDT
Question...I live in Australia so I'm not sure of this but is not a gag order in direct violation of free speech under the American Constitution? adwood20 AT gmail DOT com
by anthony f wood May 7, 2008 7:45 PM PDT
Question...I live in Australia so I'm not sure of this but is not a gag order in direct violation of free speech under the American Constitution? adwood20 AT gmail DOT com
by bruceslog May 8, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
I strongly second the above comment by colamix.!
by desmondhaynes May 7, 2008 6:43 PM PDT
So???
http://techwatch.reviewk.com/2008/05/fbi-loses-war-on-internet-archive/
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by chad.armstrong May 8, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
Good for archive.org! I love them even more now.
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by Dalkorian May 8, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
"It appears that every time a national security letter recipient has challenged an NSL in court and forced the government to justify it, the government has ultimately withdrawn its demand for records," Melissa Goodman, an ACLU staff attorney who worked on the case, said in a statement. "In the absence of much needed judicial oversight--and with recipients silenced and the public in the dark--there is nothing to stop the FBI from abusing its NSL power."

By all appearances, there now IS a way to stop the FBI from abusing it's NSL powers - start off by giving them the middle finger and challenge every single one of them in court. Just like a school yard bully, once you stand up to them they back down.

It'll have to do until we charge this current misadministration for all the crimes it's guilty of and repeal every single law it's passed. Reset - start over.
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by dxhdxh June 19, 2008 7:43 PM PDT
There is MUCH MORE smoke surrounding this fire than just the FBI asking questions. People have been talking about this on the internet archive's OWN FORMS FOR MONTHS now.

" The amount of islamic Anti-Christian propaganda is already becoming infamous, and is ruining the reputation of IA. " - March 08
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=182141
" it's a known fact that al qaeda uses the archive to send messages,brodcast propaganda and to inform cells.just read some of the texts full blown destroy christians and jews and to form a united world around islam but americans don't care but don't blame me when they take over i shouted warnings to deaf ears to people who where content with american idol,having oprah tell them what to read and thinking obama is their saviour(lol) just remember that..no more music,no sunday afternoon picnics cooking up some chicken and pork.watching football,baseball etc...remember when bending over and praying to the east with some sweaty hairy arab's ass in front of your face that folks didn't warn you.also cover your women and your daughters will be viewed as ****** only.
wish they listen to patton way back when,he saw it coming but they called him nuts.oh well they'll have to take me out before i convert to islam..**** them..2000 years of written history has shown what radical muslim is about.so go on al qaeda and keep using the archive."
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=192241



"If Archive.Org is hosting matierial that is potentially harmful to the US or it's allies, then it's giving aid and comfort to the enemy. As much as I love Archive.Org, maybe the FBI needs to be made aware of what's going on."
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=71678
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Something weird is going on here. The OPEN SOURCE section is filling up with tons of what appear to be Islamic video footage of sermons and speeches and attacks with tanks and weapons and all kinds of crazy stuff. There's frequently no description at all, so there's no way to know what the stuff is untill it's downloaded. Lots of these are audio files, even though this is a video section. Many of the files with arab-sounding names are compressed into RAR and ZIP archives, and some are password protected, with no password supplied. Some of the uploads are not movies at all, but mislabeled archives stuffed with non-video files contained inside more archives. It's like someone is trying to hide something. "

"ok...i can explain that 2 you .... first yes i'm arabic... and what happens here is that those ppl ypu r talking about r using the file hosting service here 2 upload what they want.... and use archive.org links in thier forums"
"I've think http://www.archive.org might want to password protect the files here or something.
I monitor several Arabic web sites, this is the file host of choice for many months now for real life jihadi propaganda.
www.alneda.com which used to be the al Qaeda website is now American owned and is directed to an international discussion forum at www.wincoast.com.
If you were to check the video section, or the alneda forums, which is primarily Arabic translations, you will see that http://www.archive.org has been the host of choice, as I said earlier, for some time now.
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LOOKS to me like we have a major problem brewing here.

Hiding behind crys of the EFF are not the right thing to do here.

The right thing to do is not to give aid to the anti-american islamic fascists.
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by benjaminstraight July 15, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
benjamin straight writes: Mr. Kahle made a good fight.
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