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Nice colors and a new ad agency won't change the biggest problem in Round Rock: The computer market has fundamentally changed and Dell hasn't.
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LEDs. Some of our developers were given these laptops due to
their impressive specs, but most were embarrassed to carry the
things around.
Two out of the four later switched to MacBook Pros because they
are lighter, cooler, and let them test against three OSs on one
machine - and they were only a few bucks more than the
Latitudes Dell was selling.
chorus when asked what could be done to fix the Mac maker.
His solution was a drastic one.
Michael Dell said before a crowd of several thousand IT
executives. "What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the
money back to the shareholders."
Hey Mike when are you going to sell Dell and give me my money
back.
I am waiting . . . . .
Dell's PCs were drab, but I woudn't call them "well built" - especially during the last couple of years. The last Dell system I had was a laptop and that was given to me by my company. It was the worst piece of junk laptop I've ever had - so many strange issues. My company finally dumped Dell completely.
That aside, instead of focusing on innovation, they focused on squeezing as much profit as possible by cutting corners at every turn. When they outsourced their support to India, that was pretty much the last straw for me and a lot of other loyal Dell fans.
A cool thing happened to them the other day. A local TV station was going around to all of the computer stores in my home town. They brought in an easy to fix computer to see if they would over charge. After pointing out that the last computer store had damaged the computer in a more substantial way, they were told that they were the only store to pass the test.
If a little three man operation can provide an excellent product and excellent service, why can't Dell?
Apple is Apple. White box PC's are White box PC's. I don't think you'll find many, if any, Windows based computer makers able to match Apple for their design abilities (except maybe Sony).
IT people. They created a brand loyalty with good service and
not cutting corners at every point.
When I was told to buy a PC laptop for our department, the IT
department would not accept m proposed Compq laptop. They
insisted I buy a laptop from HP's business line. Which I'm glad I
did. It was well built, had all the features I could want (except a
great wide screen with millions of colors) and lo and behold,
ended up costing $1,000 more than a comparable PowerBook
from Apple at the time.
Go figure.
Even if Dell were to put on a 100% quality initiative where they push for a six sigma fail rate, they are sunk. It is easy to turn a good reputation into a bad one. A bad reputation is forever. Dell will either go out of business or be relegated to selling disposable computers at the dollar store.
crapware, has the top rated user experience, excellent service and,
oh yes, stores you WANT to be seen in. Then sell it for less than
Macs.
"At Dell, customer service means no service at all," Cuomo said.
"The lawsuit alleges that Dell misled its customers by applying high credit rates to their computer purchases although it had promised cheap financing. The suit also alleges that Dell failed to deliver rebates, warranties and technical support as simply as it had promised."
It wasn't that HP's computers were better built inside, that allowed it to overtake Dell in market share. It was Dell's failed attempt to outsource the core value of their computer: an excellent customer support.
I guess the real issue is whether or not Dell should expand their products to a broader array of consumer electronics. But then they would fall victim to the standard analyst's paradox:
a. expand by adding other products.
b. shrink back to focus on core products.
They built their reputation on copying their competition's computer products by making them cheaper and faster and in greater numbers by streamlining the "Just in Time" on demand delivery system. It seems their business processes were probably their biggest innovation ans was definitely ahead of its time in the early 90's.
As far as their products, there is nothing new or different about them and their probably never was. If they were smart, they would start looking at R & D to come up with a new idea or two and compete with Apple there.
Personally, I don't think they have the talent or ability to do so and, with layoffs coming, the resources to compete.
Apple has the innovation corner all to itself right now. Even Sony is running scared...
To paraphrase the great leader of Dell:
"I would shut it down, and pay the investors back."
was so much delay on the line I could barely understand the
non-english speaking rep on the other end.
Lucky for me, I got the XPS, so I got the "high end" customer
support. Which meant getting transferred around for hours.
That was the last Dell I ever bought. I'm an IT professional and I
recommend that every person I know in my personal life gets a
Mac. I get one Mac support call for every 100 PC support call.
The consumer market may decline when your product isn't "cool". fine. That consumer market is shrinking anyway, so where Dell needs to refocus is upon where it's initial period of growth was based: satisfying the service and quality needs of the business sector.
Innovation no longer occurs with hardware. The hardware has become ubiquitous and homogenous. Since Dell hasn't made inroads to providing software services at all, it must focus on the things it can change...namely, pumping out higher quality in less time for less money.
phone support. Now, they've got squat. Price is no better for
quality than any other vendor. Dropping value is what's killing
them. Funny thing is, their overseas factory is probably got more
sophisticated employees than what they had in Round Rock.
Bad service and crap quality has killed them. Their business
model is built on high-volume, low-margin. That works fine in
good times, but makes for a tough strategy when spending is
down and big clients want more guaranteed service-level
agreements. (which is what HP among others, are providing to
businesses)
Dell makes junk and leaves you with it.
It didn't. The PCI-Express slot was the wrong type. No problem. I called up Dell and said I needed a new motherboard. They said no (?!?!?!?). I had to return my existing machine and buy a new one. This after spending 10 hours transferring all of my data and software onto the new machine. I sent a letter to the Rollins and Dell. The response I got back from their offices were exactly the same. "Send in the machine and buy a new one."
So I went and bought a new motherboard at another store and actually got the machine I wanted after that.
I can understand that I'm not the typical computer user, but Dell should take into account that I have been asked by a dozen people since that fiasco as to which computer they should buy. You can guess what my answer was.
(Yes, I'm a little bitter over the whole thing :-))
The cuts are a necessary evil for Dell to get back on track, and if I had to gamble on this one, my money is on Michael Dell - not some CNET blogger.
and give the money back to the shareholders.
They should stop putting bloatware on the computer. Ship trial disks or something instead. Their computers will boot faster. Their customers will thank them.
Dell isn't super expensive , but Dells always seem to be $75 or more than their competitors. That isn't sale price or promotion price though. I'm just talking about base price here.
Maybe you want to make an argument about quality? That's fine, but why doesn't Dell? Not only do they charge more they don't make the argument in their advertising as to why they charge more.
Just focus on a few high quality parts, like RAM or the power supply or something, and then advertise their PC's aren't generic crap like the other guys. Put a good warranty on all their machines to back that up. Apparently their support sucks though, so I don't know if that will help.
If they don't want to do that they can compete on price, but they're not cheaper than anyone else.
All they have to do is be the leader at something. It can be quality, price, service. They could make all their computers pink instead of just a few if they have to, and simply be the leader in pink laptops. I'm a guy and I almost bought one. Anything could work. As long as they lead in something. Right now they're just standard at everything they do. Except they want more money for it. Go figure.
Another oversight in the consumer market was the reliance on direct sales. While that may work for businesses, a lot of consumers want to be able to test out a product before buying it, "kicking the tires" so to speak. Dell was late to the game in selling through retail stores like Best Buy.
As someone above also noted, the tricks involved with the financing charges further angered many people, including most importantly the attorney general of the state of New York. (Let's just hope that Cuomo doesn't have the same proclivities for, er, paid company that his predecessor did. You know, that Spitzer fellow. ;) )
All of these factors led to the tarnishing of the Dell brand name.
As for the blandness of their products, that may partially be result of the fact that Dell doesn't actually manufacture many of the products they sell. Like other PC companies, they largely buy their notebook PCs from Taiwanese companies wholesale and merely act as resellers for those products. When Dell went into the printer market, they merely resold Lexmark printers that had "Dell" labels slapped on them. Not very impressive.
Dell was long known for having a minimal R&D budget, probably the smallest among the major computer companies, and completely dwarfed by HP and IBM. This enabled them to lower the company's costs but it also meant that they produced relatively few innovations on their own. Another reason why many think of them more as a reseller than a "real" manufacturer of tech products.
They just need to make sure they slap their name on parts that will hold up, and work well. Really if customer service is their number one complaint then that's what they need to be working on.
It is nice to have one stop shopping that if you had credit with them or whatever. Just get what you and pay later.
Since all they do is repackage other peoples products or put them together in a computer there isn't any reason for them to deal with just computers anyway.
But seriously, I wouldn't want Dell making their own printers. I'd rather have a printer made by a company that makes printers instead of Dell buying them out and changing everything around and screwing up the product more.
- Dell's problems
- by chris_d April 5, 2008 2:28 PM PDT
- From what I have seen, others have been right about Dell cutting
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who in many cases weren't qualified -- not because of their
accent (although sometimes that caused issues with
communication) but because they didn't have enough knowledge
and were just reading a script.
Dell also was somewhat smug about how little it invests in R&D.
That's caused issues. For example, I bought my dad a Dell
Inspiron laptop and it came with a Dell 1490 wireless card. The
card had all kinds of issues. It was running the newest drivers
but it kept losing the wireless connection. Thanks to Google I
was able to find a forum post from another user that identified
the issue as the power save mode. After instructing my father to
disable power save on the wireless in Windows, the card now
works just fine. Where's the quality control and testing? If you
do a Google search on this you will find many users having
problems with this card; most have no idea why it's not working
properly. If it hadn't been for Google, I probably never would
have found the answer.
Aside from that, it's not a bad laptop (unless you have to take it
apart -- looks like a nightmare on the order of the Apple iBook)
as long as you can do your own tech support. It is quite speedy
with a nice AMD processor and appears to have decent
construction quality.