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Comments on: Poll: Who or what was behind the undersea cable rupture?

CNET News.com asks readers what they think was the cause of the cut to three undersea cables that knocked out data services to parts of the Middle East and Asia.

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Did you have to
by chrisfrary February 7, 2008 12:50 PM PST
Really Dick Chaney, it is quite suspicious that it did happen to all three, but I suspect that they were mistakes that severed them.
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I wonder?
by perfectblue97 February 7, 2008 1:05 PM PST
1 could be normal, 2 could be a coincidence, but 3 really does sound downright suspicious. You can't blame people for questioning whether this was more than chance.

Of course, this still doesn't answer the question of who would have done this 9if it was done at all) and why.

I wonder if we will see any US cables going down, and what would happen if they did. Especially since Bush and Co intimated that they might be inclined to consider "an attack on the internet" as being a form of WMD atack, and thus would consider a military retaliation.
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Afcyber to blame for cable cuts
by n3td3v February 7, 2008 1:28 PM PST
Everyone with a clue knows it was Afcyber behind these attacks.

http://www.afcyber.af.mil/

Regards,

n3td3v
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Everyone knows the US Air Force has SEALS...
by Penguinisto February 7, 2008 2:11 PM PST
...er, wait - they don't.

They deal in aircraft and occasional spacecraft. They also deal in missiles.

Strangely enough, none of the aforementioned vehicles carry a sea anchor as standard equipment, nor are they ordinarily captained by foreign nationals...

Hrm. On second thought, where's the tin foil? ;)

/P
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what is it??
by rockstarstatus February 7, 2008 4:45 PM PST
Defense or Offense? They cut the cables or they defend them,
which is it? That stupid links thing cuts both ways.
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That would just be dumb.
by ralfthedog February 9, 2008 7:36 AM PST
Why take out a cable for a short time when there is no tactical advantage. If the cables were not to come back, you MIGHT have a strategic advantage, however deep sea cables can be fixed quite quickly.

Taking out cables for no reason is just a way to advertise your capability. Lets take out an add in the Tehran Times, "Hi, we can cut your cables in the event of war. Here is how you can defend yourself!"
This poll is bogus
by omiba February 7, 2008 1:44 PM PST
you can't bonefish where these cables are!
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I did it!
by vaughn2974 February 7, 2008 1:44 PM PST
OOhhaaaaa. I now demand 1,000,000,000 dollars, er I mean Euros, or i'll do it again! AHAHHAHAHAHAH
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No He didn't!!! I did it!!!
by aaroberts February 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST
And I demand 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, whatever...
Where did the breaks happen
by Lee in San Diego February 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST
In deep water, near where they come ashore?
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could it be ...
by leriksen71 February 7, 2008 1:59 PM PST
the monster from Cloverfield?
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It's not 3 cut cables anymore, but 5
by Tui Pohutukawa February 7, 2008 2:02 PM PST
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/06/cut-four-undersea-
cables-shame-on-you-cut-a-fifth-also-shame/

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?
xfile=data/theuae/2008/February/theuae_February155.xml&sec
tion=theuae

http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-
can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/
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Missing option:
by Penguinisto February 7, 2008 2:06 PM PST
Stupendous Incompetence.

I realize that harbors are naturally easy places to plug an undersea cable into, but they also tend to be crowded places... why not bring them in to landfall somewhere that doesn't normally have shipping traffic?

That way, by accident (or design), any ship in the verboten areas can be more easily spotted and shooed out, and you won't have to worry about some poor schmuck getting caught in a storm and deciding to simply drop a zillion-ton anchor just any ol' where... like right over your cabling.

/P
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Absolutely Agree
by kabong February 7, 2008 3:08 PM PST
Nuff Said
Exactly. NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY!!!
by rockstarstatus February 7, 2008 4:48 PM PST
Too quick to blame everything on some nefarious plot by someone
somewhere.
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Iranian Oil Bourse
by scdecade February 7, 2008 2:23 PM PST
Wake up sheople! If the oil producing countries band together to reject dollars the US has a cataclysmic problem. The US government likes to spend dollars it doesn't have so it borrows money (isses dollar denominated bonds) and prints dollars (inflates the currency). When the rest of world stops accepting dollars, the entire tab for Washington's decades of wreckless spending will come due. It's difficult to overstate the enormity of such an event. The Neocons running the US government understand one thing and one thing only: power. Dollars have meant power for a long, long time. The only way to meaningfully strengthen the dollar (as opposed to a one-time jolt, aka "a stimulus package") would require the Neocons to give up some of their own power... so, of course, starting World War 4 is the preferred option for them.
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Wow!
by kabong February 7, 2008 3:08 PM PST
Stories like this are just kook magnets aren't they? WW4 huh? I'm
gonna regret this, but when was WW3? Kids, this is why you
should always take your meds.
It is time....
by csturdivant February 7, 2008 4:04 PM PST
That was a lot of typing, aren't you afraid that you are going to expose yourself? Isn't time for you to put your tinfoil hat back on and go hide from the black helicopters and satellites.
wow...
by rockstarstatus February 7, 2008 4:40 PM PST
And that SOOOO worked in Iraq. I'm pretty sure you don't know
what you're talking about.
"When the rest of world stops accepting dollars..." yeah. right.
The world's economy's are so tied together now that if one goes
almost all the others will as well. The US has a bad stock month,
the rest of the world has a bad stock month.
Don't boil your arguments down so much and you might find where
you've gone wrong.
Dear Chicken Little...
by Penguinisto February 9, 2008 11:22 AM PST
How would cutting undersea cabling hide or cover an economic
act that simply cannot be hidden (shifting from dollars to euros)?

If/when the "rest of the world" stops using the Dollar as the
standard, nothing will happen. (China simply can't do so yet, nor
can most other heavily-invested nations... at least not without
hurting themselves in the meanwhile).

If the global stock market bump of a couple weeks ago has
taught us anything, it is that when the US economy sneezes,
everyone catches a cold. Interestingly enough, the same is true
for the US - if China or the EU sneezes, we sniffle too.

Welcome to the Global Economy.

/P
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Baaah
by sanenazok February 10, 2008 11:12 AM PST
baah baah baaaah

Neocons are out of power and will be for the foreseeable future. Have you kept up to date with U.S. politics since 2004? Karl Rove was on CBS this morning and he was quite the antique! He can't tell anyone what to do, not even Huckabee. I bet you don't even know what a "neocon" is.

Regarding the U.S. budget deficit, what's your solution, converting the US to a gold standard?? Don't confuse the national debt with personal debt. The national debt is yet another tool used to guide financial goals of the country's economy. The U.S. has had a deficit since the Great Depression...foreigners want to invest in the U.S. and U.S. wants to invest in foreign nations. The only way to accommodate that is to make dollars available to foreigners. If it wasn't for the national debt the only other way to do that foreigners could get dollars would be for the U.S. to have a trade surplus, which would mean reverting the country to an industrial economy (like China), or better yet a commodities economy (like Russia or African nations). Sorry, for better or worse, the U.S. is now a services economy and there's no going back.

Please try and understand some economic concepts:
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/Understanding-the-U-S-Economy.id-4110.html
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HOW WOULD READERS KNOW????
by baisa February 7, 2008 2:52 PM PST
How the hell would readers know what caused it? This kind of poll is just inflammatory and unprofessional.
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Why wouldn't they know?
by n3td3v February 7, 2008 2:59 PM PST
Do you think its only the government who know whats going on? ;) Who do you think the readers are and who do you think the readers aren't? Do you know a lot of government folks are the readers? Do you know a lot of experts are the readers? Do you konw the ISP community are the readers? And do you know the general public are the readers too? The government rely on public opinion on world events, to be able to make decisions about things. Do you not think the people who "are" behind this don't want a vote and dicussion like this to see what people think and if they have gotten away with it or not? Please let me know about these readers you don't have faith in.

Regards,

n3td3v
Of course they would know!
by lkrupp February 7, 2008 3:57 PM PST
Polls like this simply reconfirm my utter lack of respect for my
fellow man. The world is overflowing with ignorant idiots. Mother
Nature needs to kill us all and start over. Maybe some comet will do
it for her, I'm hoping this week.
"This kind of poll is just inflammatory and unprofessional."
by ralfthedog February 9, 2008 7:46 AM PST
inflammatory, unprofessional AND FUN!

Put on your tin foil hat, drive around thinking that your are being followed all the time. Post lots of crazy talk about the NWO and black helicopters. It is a great deal of fun.
Humor.
by Penguinisto February 9, 2008 7:14 PM PST
Cryin' out loud... grow a sense of one, willya?

/P
(who is eagerly awaiting the OS/2 conspiracy theory to raise its head...)
Iluminati Scientologists
by kabong February 7, 2008 3:01 PM PST
Everybody knows it was them. They're trying to stifle the Tom
Cruise videos.
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Thanks
by tanis143 February 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST
Now that was funny, I needed that laugh :)
Undersea monsters did it
by intifan February 7, 2008 7:20 PM PST
It was Godzilla, or that thing from Cloverfield.
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Not Godzilla!
by Dalkorian February 12, 2008 11:21 AM PST
Godzilla hangs around Japan, so if the cables were being cut there
it would have to be Godzilla. But the cables are being cut near
Egypt, which is a long way off from Japan.

It's the Goa'uld. They did it to keep their slaves from talking.
Bogus Poll - CNET did it!
by biffhenerson February 8, 2008 8:08 AM PST
Why waist bandwith with such a bogus poll. There isn't even a nice list of choices. So, my choice is CNET News.com. I think they did it and they are just checking to see if anyone knows that they did it. lol.
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Here are 4 Possible Theories
by ijustfloat February 9, 2008 1:38 AM PST
It looks like ilovebonnie.net had another post about who might be responsible for the cables here:
http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/submarine-cables-subsidiares-and-subversion/

I would go with the #1 possibility there (Iranian Oil Bourse) personally.
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two more cable cuts
by voip-facts.net February 9, 2008 7:36 AM PST
Two more submarine cables cut this week. Internet theorist are crying conspiracy! The three cuts last week of the coasts of Egypt and the UAE should be repaired by the weekend.
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Sea Marmots.
by ralfthedog February 9, 2008 8:00 AM PST
You guys may think I am joking, however this is Sea Marmot migration time. Sea Marmots have been very disruptive in the United States. Several undersea cables have been cut by sea marmots in Kansas and Nebraska.

I know that sea marmots are a protected species, however something must be done to protect our IT infrastructure and shipping from these vicious little animals.
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Undersea cables...Kansas and Nebraska?????
by rockstarstatus February 9, 2008 7:12 PM PST
er... WHAT?
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A Poll....? ! ? !
by imacpwr February 10, 2008 4:03 AM PST
Absolutely nobody replying to this poll has any proof as to how this
undersea cable break really occurred other than miss-information
the c|net rumor mill has again cranked out. Why does everything
c|net reports on has to be written like it's off the front page of [i]The National Enquirer[/i]..?
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Because its fun!
by ralfthedog February 10, 2008 9:13 AM PST
No one is claiming absolute knowledge about what is happening. It is just fun to guess. Get a life (preferably your own, but you can rent one at blockbusters) and have some fun!

:)
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