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Comments on: Homeland Security to press ahead with Real ID

Federal agency plans to release new rules Friday that would reportedly delay onset of controversial requirements and cut costs to states. Will critics be satisfied?

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HELLO POLICE STATE
by personnx January 11, 2008 10:22 AM PST
Herr Bush, the republicans and his big business buddies are determined to turn America into a police state where every person is tagged and tracked. That is very important when most citizens are disgusted with Herr Bush.
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Papers, Papers. Show me you papers.
by vnsa January 11, 2008 10:24 AM PST
Where are your papers.
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Ron Paul
by scdecade January 11, 2008 11:03 AM PST
He is the only candidate that will stand up and oppose this on principle. Peace, prosperity, and freedom. Do you want those things all at the same time? Vote Ron Paul.
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right!
by Dalkorian January 11, 2008 11:08 AM PST
We got into this mess because of a yahoo texas repukinazicon,
so let's solve it by electing another yahoo texas repukinazicon.

My God, are people really this stupid????????

Papers please. Hmm, it doesn't appear your papers are in order
...

Oh, and to the idiotic moron who thinks we should be required
to have to present our papers in order to travel across our once
great nation, there are others who agree with you. They live in
communist nations like Cuba and China and would welcome
more idiots like you.
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This was talked about in the Zeitgeist movie
by mythfreedom January 11, 2008 11:13 AM PST
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
REAL ID and RFID Chip plans are talked about in this movie.
This is a documentary split in 3 parts, the first part speaks about the fabrication of religion so it can be used to control people, the second is about conspiracy of 9/11 and the world being a stage, and the third part is about the international bankers who control everything in the world.
I cant say that everything in this movie is factual, but theres alot of evidence to support their claims, and at the least will open your mind . I watched it twice already.
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TSA saves us from five-year-old ?security threat?
by RonPaulRules January 11, 2008 11:19 AM PST
The TSA can't even handle 5 year olds on their no fly list with any common sense, what makes you think they can handle this?
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Domestics and Tourist
by V1Joker January 11, 2008 11:41 AM PST
Let me get this straight the Real ID is suppose to protect me from terrorists, because now we will have the a way identify Americas. Meaning everyone else would be an illegal and/or terrorist. What about tourist from other countries? Are we going to start saying "If you want to come to the US you have to get a Real ID?" Some how I do not think other countries will go for it, but I could be wrong.

While our wonderful govenment figures the tourist thing out. Maybe they can figure out how the Real ID is going to protect us from terrorist like Timothy McVeigh and John Allen Muhammad.
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How about....................
by Granddadof7 January 11, 2008 11:59 AM PST
How about this:

You run a retail store and you have a reader at the door. A customer walks in and you get a read-out giving you there credit standings.

How about this:

You work in a grade school. You are watching some screens. One one of them it has an alert that tells you that a child molester has come within 200 feet of the school.

and how about this:

You walk into a Bank and the mgr gets a message that convicted robber just walked in the Bank?

Some good and others not so good. Good luck America, land of the sometimes free.

God Bless (while I can still say that).
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Only terrorists, criminals, and illegal immigrants fear RealID
by Andy kaufman January 11, 2008 12:11 PM PST
Everyone else is safe.

RealIDs are easy to get but you need to do a full background check. If your background is shady, you won't get one.
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So you're saying I'm going to be treated like a terroists
by aka_tripleB January 11, 2008 12:23 PM PST
Some ****** screwed up my credit report (not my score though), which is waht EVERYONE uses for background checks.

I don't think criminals really fear Real ID unless they planned on getting a fake ID to hide their past.
Cockroaches scurry when the light comes on
by BaconCakeBaker January 11, 2008 12:28 PM PST
It's as bad as it is for someone who lives in a society where everyone knows them. Certainly there are downsides to this, but it is not cause for blood curtling cries for liberty from the gummint, black helecopters etcetera etcetera.

Try to imagine every member of state, local, and federal goverment knowing your face, your name, and where you live. Bid deal right?
real-e
by 3dxtreme January 11, 2008 12:41 PM PST
Woooww, now there some insight! what about YOUR right to privacy dude? or maybe we should change our system of laws to being guilty until proven innocent. The government has no business keeping tabs on it citizens, maybe the gov shoould tell your wife you've been to a strip club, or stopped for gas, or boarded a plane....for so called terrorism or not, who's really terrorising whom.
Identiphobia - fear of being identifiable
by BaconCakeBaker January 11, 2008 12:12 PM PST
Try not to wet yourselves, it's just an ID card.
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identiphobia
by 3dxtreme January 11, 2008 12:42 PM PST
thats what the Nazis said.
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Does this conjure horrible imagery for anyone else?
by aka_tripleB January 11, 2008 12:15 PM PST
When I read a similar article yesturday, it made me think of that movie (it could have been an X-files episode), where there was a town that had the fountain of youth that everyone drank from once they reached a certain age. But once they reach 100 or 150, they would be taken and drowned.

When I read that everyone 50 and older didn't need one, I thought, "Is our government going to kill everyone over 50?" I know it's not the case, but that was the first thing that came to mind.

The second thing was that everyone needed the ID to take census and kill all the newborn baby boys like Herod did 2000 years ago. Also very unlikely, but if babies start killing over at an epidemic level, I would probably flat out accuse the government of being the cause.
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Privacy Concerns Solved
by Randy Rasti January 11, 2008 12:20 PM PST
ProxySsn.com presents a solution for your SSN, Real Id or any kind of an ID. Please read the web site and support it. This is what America needs.
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What a load of crap
by nuckelhedd January 14, 2008 6:01 AM PST
This doesn't do anything for anyone you fool. It doesn't negate anything. Remember you aren't supposed to be asked for your ssn to begin with. What none of you seem to know is that yu can sue for being denied service or opportunity and as an invasion of privacy if anyone denies you anything after refusing to provide your ssn.
Ron Paul is against "Papers Please" Real ID...
by libertyforall1776 January 11, 2008 12:29 PM PST
Ron Paul for President is against the "Papers Please" Real ID... So
if you want to defend your liberties and rights to privacy, head on
over to:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/privacy-and-personal-
liberty/
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Ron Paul?
by JadedGamer January 14, 2008 2:31 AM PST
He's practically against the federal state in the first place. It's almost ironic he wants to be president of something he seems to want to abolish...
Watch Aaron Russo's America: Freedom To Fascism
by libertyforall1776 January 11, 2008 12:32 PM PST
Watch Aaron Russo's America: Freedom To Fascism, for more
about what the government "new world order" types have planned
for us:

http://freedomtofascism.com
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Identification does not equal security!
by Solaris_User January 11, 2008 12:43 PM PST
I have never met ANYONE who likes Real ID. It is quite cleat this is something the people do not want. I cant see why our government is so hell bent to do this.

All of the 9/11 terrorists had legal ID.

If the government wanted to make us safe it would give us back our guns so we could protect ourselves.
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Indeed
by BaconCakeBaker January 11, 2008 1:19 PM PST
In the same manner that a hammer does not equal a house, identification does not equal security. One is a tool, and the other a goal. Real ID is only one tool and when used properly will help and when used improperly wont help as much. To assert that it is no good becuase it fails to do what isn't supposed to do anyway is silly.
Real ID - Civil disobedience, break it.
by Solaris_User January 11, 2008 12:46 PM PST
Put your card in the microwave for 10 seconds, it will fry the chip in it then claim ignorance as to why its not working.

Dang new fangled thing..

I will not comply with this law, my job requires travel and I will quit my job before I'm tracked like so much cattle.
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Yeah...VOTE RON PAUL!!!
by jdmorro January 11, 2008 12:55 PM PST
There is such a thing as civil liberties...Vote RON PAUL if you care about your freedom.
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Should be loads of fun
by lumbercartel January 11, 2008 1:04 PM PST
... when a defendant in Federal Court is denied access to the courtroom for lack of "appropriate" identification.

Pity it'll be so long until the fireworks start.
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Hitler
by afhernandez January 11, 2008 1:37 PM PST
Didn't Hitler create mandatory ID's before he started killing Jews?
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REAL ID?
by mjd420nova January 11, 2008 2:12 PM PST
Can such a thing be possible?? What are the ways that will be used to stop forging of these ID's? It would be worth nothing is safeguards aren't put in place. Then we have to enforce those laws, regardless of the circumstances. As it is now, different cities and states have their own ideas about enforcing illegal immigrants from getting ID's and then passing themselves off as Americans.
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Real ID and mobile technology
by Quemannn January 11, 2008 3:51 PM PST
DHS's homeland security can only take off, when it is taken into account with mobile technology.
What is the main purpose of DHS's Real ID project? No dbout, it is to make authentication and identification procedures much easier and faster. RFID chips embedded inside the passport won't help a lot because processing should take place in a linear fashion. Scanning passengers' mobile handset screens for check-in for boarding should still take place in a linear fashion. Think outside the line. People can do check-in for boarding, while in their vehicles, and can use a disposable ephemeral digitial ID at boarding gates.
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