Comments on: Intel CEO mum on Vista's impact

Paul Otellini surprises a few reporters when he clams up over Microsoft's operating system.

[MyRightEye]

You can't remember Gates talking about...

One more monolithic release of Windows.

Maybe I should become a reporter...

[moofer]

Otellini and his wife both use Macs

You probably won't hear too much pro-windows campaigning
anymore. I'm sure he's less than thrilled with the progress of the
Windows platform - so much so that he and his wife use Macs at
home:

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/10/24/intels-paul-
otellini-loves-his-mac/

[frankwick]

also

I'm sure he also uses Vista. and I'm sure he also uses some linux distro. He's probably running Windows 7 with 48 cores.

[GGGlen]

No surprise there

If I were the CEO of Intel, I sure wouldn't have anything nice to say
about an OS that made my products look like crap.
And momma always said "If you don't have anything nice to say..."

[maverick_nick]

How!?

How did Vista make Intel's products look "crap"?

[ewelch]

Superior?

You expect him to call Vista a superior OS? TO what? DOS? NT?
Window ME? Well yeah. I'm not even sure if it's better than OS/2!

[maverick_nick]

What!?

Have you even used Vista?

[therealbean]

Vista five years in deployment?

"...In other words, after five years in development, was Vista having any impact on moving hardware?"

Vista was completed in late 2006 and shipped in early 2007.

[Tghu Verd]

RE: Vista five years in deployment?

therealbean writes:
> Vista was completed in late 2006
> and shipped in early 2007.

Agreed, but Microsoft had been hyping Vista - or Longhorn as it was then - for years before the release and such market building activity has worked in the past to lauch a buying frenzy of new hardware.

A decade ago we queued up to buy Windows 95 and Intel was happy. Today we're foisted with Woindows Vista as an OEM install and Intel is obviously less happy!

[retrosteve]

Five years is right, and doesn't look good compared to, say, Apple.

Yes, both the dates you give are true. 2006 completion, 2007 release.

Vista was also announced in July 2005, after having been mentioned in the press since 2001 as the upcoming "Longhorn", to have a new RDBMS-based file system called WinFS.

Vista follows its predecessor, Windows XP, released in October 2001, five years and three months previously.

For comparison, in October 2001, Apple had just released OSX 10.1 (Puma), and in July 2005, Apple had released OSX 10.3 (Panther).

Between Vista's announcement in 2005 and its full release in January 2007, Apple had end-of-lifed OSX 10.3 and released OSX 10.4.

And at current time, Apple has released OSX 10.5 (Leopard), including file system innovations like "Time Machine" for recalling the disk's previous state at any time.

Longhorn's WinFS is still "in development".

[drewbyh]

I think you misread...

The quote is, "after five years in development" not deployment as you stated.

[Arbalest05]

Isn't Vista just an XP service pack gone horribly wrong?

To me, Vista seems like XP, just slower (for unknown reasons) and filled up with DRM. Are there features that I have overlooked that make Vista more useful to the typical user than XP? Vista should probably just have been a SP to XP, but Microsoft needed cash so it became a "new" Windows release.

[joshsc]

Technically 2 years

Actually the vista we know today was only in the works for 2 or 3 years. I think it's 2 years. Before that, MS had a different OS planned and found too many problems that they couldn't figure out how to fix...so they scrapped it and began on what is now Vista.

So although they worked on the new os for 5 years, Vista was only about 2 years in the making.

[tgrenier]

competing customers

Well now that Apple is a customer he can't really take side publicly. Good Year deosn not claim any particluar car maker is superior. I wonder where Intel would be without Microsoft.

[mpitogo]

This story is misleading and the Vista facts are wrong

The author stated

"Noting that Bill Gates had said during his Monday keynote
speech that there are now 100 million people using Vista"

This is in fact not true. What Gates said during his keynote
speech was that Microsoft has sold 100M licenses of Microsoft
Vista. Does this mean there are 100M users of vista? Absolutely
not! For one the Vista license number includes OEM agreements
with all the PC manufacturers in addition to retail copies. Many
consumers have Vista licenses but have reverted back to XP.
Second when Microsoft says sold, they also include licenses that
were purchased by a distributer or manufacturer and not yet
sold to the consumer. Third Microsoft Software Assurance
customers who have kept their contract up to date but have not
rolled out Vista.

Vista is certainly out there but in at 100M users as suggested by
this author.

[luisosio]

AMD better with VISTA

AMD has always advertised VISTA runs much better on its chips than on Intel's. Your note seems to confirm this.

[Dragon Forge]

Get a clue

The pro and con elements of this discussion boolster the contention that Intel is right in hedging its words. A solid ms o/s release could have sent sales thru then roof and of course intel appreciates the market and has itself developed for that tech market via o/s - so they support each other. Intel statements support the market in that they did not throw any sunshine and flowers in some bs response alienating the market, (reconfirming what we all know), and yet still in line hoping ms can get its head out of its parts unknown.

I need an o/s light on the business malarky and heavy on entertainment - they shud have made 2 distinct products years ago. Also recognizing the need for stable business platforms and the host of marklets that rely on this, this feeble offering is a slap in the face to everyone.

Do a google on sharepoint server and you can see many individuals hard at work repositioning the hits continuously for another muddled and halfbaked product - a supposed business aggragation lmfao.

While I may be missing out on the top end video aspects of some new games I am in no need of chasing this lzr o/s.

It is time we sent them a message and the industry also - to apply additional pressure - we dont need this piece of crap and definitely dont need to buy any new software or hardware for these bug riddled products and marginal benefits.

You're absolutely not missing a thing by sticking with your old system for another year or 2.