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negotiating table. Toshiba is by themselves and chose to go it
alone.
Toshiba may have won the support of Dream-works and
Paramount but the loss of Time wanner is huge. WB controls
50% of all original content world wide. They have the largest
library movies and television show than all the other companies
put together.
This is very bad for HD-DVD as a standard. It's a pretty big nail
in the coffin of this format. They have lost access thee 50% of
all content in hollywood.
Stephen Spielberg will not release any of his movies on HD-DVD.
Sony, I am not a big fan of is not the sole owner of BLU-ray. Samsung. Pioneer. panasonic and Apple all have contributed to
the format. So put the Sony hating aside because they are not
the sole owner of Blu_ray patents. Panasonic own the Blu-ray
recording format patent.
Blu_ray can hold up to 200 GB, HD-DVD only 60 GB. In five
years HD-DVD could be completely useless and require another
format to replace it.
HD are going to change, better video standard are already on
their way, video running at 80 mbits per a second rather than
the 38 mbits the two formats support now.
Time wanner want to be ready for that time 5 years down the road.
Toshiba is trying to push an inferior product to save their hide.
Toshiba is in a worse situation to than Sony and is rapidly
loosing market share to Samsung who make a better LCD hand
down.
I don't like sony but at least Blu_ray is ready to keep pace with
what going to happens in the future. HD-DVD will not do that
in the end.
There are three different profiles and the last profile, BD-Live, is not even available yet. When it is available, then HD-DVD will have no advantage over Blu-Ray.
I bought my HD-DVD player for $120. When Blu-Ray players lower their prices I will buy one.
How can you support a company that has one of the worst records in both engineering and consumer support? They use illegal tools to protect their DVD and CD, which causes widespread security problems since it opens your PC and devices to hackers. Most of their equipment is "designed" so when 1 part goes bad you have to replace almost everything else.
Considering the Blu-Ray format is still in beta I am not sure where you get the 200gb storage. However, remember that most DVD's are compressed for space and compression technology is very good. There is really no reason to have 200gb of space, since they could survive longer than DVD with compression.
And both Sony and Toshiba both walked away from the standard talks because Sony would not agree to any non-BR technology. The CEO of Sony has said this was a mistake and said Sony would have behaved differently if they could do it again.
Blu-Ray having better video standards? Really? Is that why Sony is currently only requiring the older MPEG2 format on Blu-Ray movies? Even though they already support Mpeg4, why don't they use it? Probably becuase they are having issues there too. If this is what you call "smart"... GADS!
As far as "contributions" to the format. Samsung, panasonic and Apple have done no contributions to anything technical at all to Blu-Ray. Their support is only business level. It's all about the money, your money, and removing it from you as fast as they can.
Blu-Ray support is just stupid. No matter how you spin it.
negotiating table. Toshiba is by themselves and chose to go it
alone.
Toshiba may have won the support of Dream-works and
Paramount but the loss of Time wanner is huge. WB controls
50% of all original content world wide. They have the largest
library movies and television show than all the other companies
put together.
This is very bad for HD-DVD as a standard. It's a pretty big nail
in the coffin of this format. They have lost access thee 50% of
all content in hollywood.
Stephen Spielberg will not release any of his movies on HD-DVD.
Sony, I am not a big fan of is not the sole owner of BLU-ray. Samsung. Pioneer. panasonic and Apple all have contributed to
the format. So put the Sony hating aside because they are not
the sole owner of Blu_ray patents. Panasonic own the Blu-ray
recording format patent.
Blu_ray can hold up to 200 GB, HD-DVD only 60 GB. In five
years HD-DVD could be completely useless and require another
format to replace it.
HD are going to change, better video standard are already on
their way, video running at 80 mbits per a second rather than
the 38 mbits the two formats support now.
Time wanner want to be ready for that time 5 years down the road.
Toshiba is trying to push an inferior product to save their hide.
Toshiba is in a worse situation to than Sony and is rapidly
loosing market share to Samsung who make a better LCD hand
down.
I don't like sony but at least Blu_ray is ready to keep pace with
what going to happens in the future. HD-DVD will not do that
in the end.
There are three different profiles and the last profile, BD-Live, is not even available yet. When it is available, then HD-DVD will have no advantage over Blu-Ray.
I bought my HD-DVD player for $120. When Blu-Ray players lower their prices I will buy one.
How can you support a company that has one of the worst records in both engineering and consumer support? They use illegal tools to protect their DVD and CD, which causes widespread security problems since it opens your PC and devices to hackers. Most of their equipment is "designed" so when 1 part goes bad you have to replace almost everything else.
Considering the Blu-Ray format is still in beta I am not sure where you get the 200gb storage. However, remember that most DVD's are compressed for space and compression technology is very good. There is really no reason to have 200gb of space, since they could survive longer than DVD with compression.
And both Sony and Toshiba both walked away from the standard talks because Sony would not agree to any non-BR technology. The CEO of Sony has said this was a mistake and said Sony would have behaved differently if they could do it again.
Blu-Ray having better video standards? Really? Is that why Sony is currently only requiring the older MPEG2 format on Blu-Ray movies? Even though they already support Mpeg4, why don't they use it? Probably becuase they are having issues there too. If this is what you call "smart"... GADS!
As far as "contributions" to the format. Samsung, panasonic and Apple have done no contributions to anything technical at all to Blu-Ray. Their support is only business level. It's all about the money, your money, and removing it from you as fast as they can.
Blu-Ray support is just stupid. No matter how you spin it.
The largest advantage of an HD format is not picture but sound. With a good sound system and a 7.1 uncompressed sound track, your home system will sound far better than the theater. I was watching Superman Returns Saturday night. The earthquake seen knocked several Blue-ray movies off of the shelf. :)
The largest advantage of an HD format is not picture but sound. With a good sound system and a 7.1 uncompressed sound track, your home system will sound far better than the theater. I was watching Superman Returns Saturday night. The earthquake seen knocked several Blue-ray movies off of the shelf. :)
This is not as bad for HD DVD as it sounds. If you own an HD DVD player it will still work. You will not be required to send all of your HD DVD disks back to the factory. If you want new movies, you will need to get a PS-3 or a stand alone player (Stand alone players are not recommended, but you can).
The war is over. Lets find something more fun to fight about (Windows bites the big pickle. Long live Linux! Long live OS X!).
This is not as bad for HD DVD as it sounds. If you own an HD DVD player it will still work. You will not be required to send all of your HD DVD disks back to the factory. If you want new movies, you will need to get a PS-3 or a stand alone player (Stand alone players are not recommended, but you can).
The war is over. Lets find something more fun to fight about (Windows bites the big pickle. Long live Linux! Long live OS X!).
Ray is 300% more expensive to make each copy for, so that
means LESS PROFITS (they to pay the Blu-Ray forum $3.00 PER
DISC of every thing made, HD-DVD forum is $.17 PER DISC).
So they both the same quality, same audio quality but blu-ray
has more left over space @ the end of every movie. WHO
CARES?! the blu-ray "lens" has a higher throughput, but hd-dvd
doesnt even use 100%, so again, WHO CARES? Its all just so
people will think Blu-Ray is the better format (which
economically its far from it) and sony can reap their massive
rewards.
Don't be fooled. Sony has spent more money in the companies
history to make sure th Blu-Ray becomes a standard. If it does,
they will regulate just about everything they can and will squash
your rights, as a consumer to back up your purchased movie.
They've already tried twice.
Read between the lines of these new sittings.
saying, in effect, that "more space" is worse than having "less
space".
Ever hear of this newfangled concept called "The Future"?
I hate to break the news to you, but content will take MORE
SPACE in the future, because they will offer MORE FEATURES.
Oops, I forgot. HD-DVD supporters are probably signing up to
Bill Gates philosophy that "no one will ever need more than 640
Kilobytes of RAM".
BTW, EVERY argument you made against Sony can be applied to
the HD-DVD consortium, so you're coming across as a highly
biased.
The cost of an HD DVD disc: $1.55
The cost of a Blue-ray disc: $1.49
1. Blue-ray costs less per disc.
2. Blue-ray has the space to support formats beyond 1080p.
3. Your math bites the big pickle. :)
If your numbers were true, it would not be Three times. $3.00/$0.17 = 17.64705882.....
I must complement you on knowing the difference between a disc and a disk. A disc is optical media like a CD or DVD. A disk is a hard drive or a floppy. The one exemption is a Seagate hard drive. For some reason I don't know, Seagate drives should be referred to as a disc.
Ray is 300% more expensive to make each copy for, so that
means LESS PROFITS (they to pay the Blu-Ray forum $3.00 PER
DISC of every thing made, HD-DVD forum is $.17 PER DISC).
So they both the same quality, same audio quality but blu-ray
has more left over space @ the end of every movie. WHO
CARES?! the blu-ray "lens" has a higher throughput, but hd-dvd
doesnt even use 100%, so again, WHO CARES? Its all just so
people will think Blu-Ray is the better format (which
economically its far from it) and sony can reap their massive
rewards.
Don't be fooled. Sony has spent more money in the companies
history to make sure th Blu-Ray becomes a standard. If it does,
they will regulate just about everything they can and will squash
your rights, as a consumer to back up your purchased movie.
They've already tried twice.
Read between the lines of these new sittings.
saying, in effect, that "more space" is worse than having "less
space".
Ever hear of this newfangled concept called "The Future"?
I hate to break the news to you, but content will take MORE
SPACE in the future, because they will offer MORE FEATURES.
Oops, I forgot. HD-DVD supporters are probably signing up to
Bill Gates philosophy that "no one will ever need more than 640
Kilobytes of RAM".
BTW, EVERY argument you made against Sony can be applied to
the HD-DVD consortium, so you're coming across as a highly
biased.
The cost of an HD DVD disc: $1.55
The cost of a Blue-ray disc: $1.49
1. Blue-ray costs less per disc.
2. Blue-ray has the space to support formats beyond 1080p.
3. Your math bites the big pickle. :)
If your numbers were true, it would not be Three times. $3.00/$0.17 = 17.64705882.....
I must complement you on knowing the difference between a disc and a disk. A disc is optical media like a CD or DVD. A disk is a hard drive or a floppy. The one exemption is a Seagate hard drive. For some reason I don't know, Seagate drives should be referred to as a disc.
blu-ray, on paper) its far from the truth to consumers. Its
designed with a much faster backbone and organized in a
completely different way.
HOWEVER, it leads to bandwidth going to the sites that pay the
host more money, so say goodbye to things like WEBMD, and all
your forums because they dont generate enough information to
pay the high royalties to the hosts of the sites just for simple
access whereas the "big" businesses can afford massive
payments and there for allowed greater bandwidth which equals
more visitors and more sales.
again point being is, dont just believe that because the news
says somethings it a good thing. like WB taking blu-ray. they'll
just loose money in the long run since any total HD-DVD sales
for the holiday have not been counted yet.
i went to BB and they had a 200 stand alone HD-DVD player
(toshiba) and the cheapest blu-ray was still the gaudy 400 ps3.
ha.
blu-ray, on paper) its far from the truth to consumers. Its
designed with a much faster backbone and organized in a
completely different way.
HOWEVER, it leads to bandwidth going to the sites that pay the
host more money, so say goodbye to things like WEBMD, and all
your forums because they dont generate enough information to
pay the high royalties to the hosts of the sites just for simple
access whereas the "big" businesses can afford massive
payments and there for allowed greater bandwidth which equals
more visitors and more sales.
again point being is, dont just believe that because the news
says somethings it a good thing. like WB taking blu-ray. they'll
just loose money in the long run since any total HD-DVD sales
for the holiday have not been counted yet.
i went to BB and they had a 200 stand alone HD-DVD player
(toshiba) and the cheapest blu-ray was still the gaudy 400 ps3.
ha.
I will never purchase another Sony product as long as I live. I am tired of them trying to monopolize something thinking they can control the market. As soon as I save enough money I will replace both of my Sony digital cameras with nikons.
I will never purchase another Sony product as long as I live. I am tired of them trying to monopolize something thinking they can control the market. As soon as I save enough money I will replace both of my Sony digital cameras with nikons.
Be brave. Ween yourself off of the corporate ***.
Or! Just wait a bit. They'll have a new technology for you to buy into soon.
Get smart sheeple! The more you keep buying into it, the more crap they feed you.
Be brave. Ween yourself off of the corporate ***.
Or! Just wait a bit. They'll have a new technology for you to buy into soon.
Get smart sheeple! The more you keep buying into it, the more crap they feed you.
Why? Because compromises are built into them in order to keep the costs down which results in trade-offs being made. The combo players will either play both formats at a lesser standard, or one (or the other) format will be short-changed.
The LG player for example, won't let you have all the HD-DVD menu options that you would get with a single format HD-DVD player. However, the Blu-Ray side of it has full menu capability.
The differences might even become more glaring as the price goes down.
Why? Because compromises are built into them in order to keep the costs down which results in trade-offs being made. The combo players will either play both formats at a lesser standard, or one (or the other) format will be short-changed.
The LG player for example, won't let you have all the HD-DVD menu options that you would get with a single format HD-DVD player. However, the Blu-Ray side of it has full menu capability.
The differences might even become more glaring as the price goes down.
- they already are
- by quiggly January 8, 2008 10:26 PM PST
- Ignoring the vast majority of the market, who has shown quite loudly there preference, stay with DVD
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