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Comments on: Is U.S. broadband access truly lagging?

Policymakers like to boo-hoo statistics showing the nation trails many foreign counterparts in per capita Net subscribers. A Washington think tank calls for measuring the situation in a new way.

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Make it available and I'll do it!
by morningowl July 17, 2007 11:03 AM PDT
Regardless of how remote your town is, if the service is available one town over, it should be available in your town too!

After working a contract job for a broadband provider, I found one thing that disturbs me. All they want is money and return on investment. They do not care that a whole town is not on their broadband availability list. There is no social responsibility at all. If it doesn't pay, the public cannot play. Well you can play, but sell your house and move if you want broadband!

I'll just stay disconnected.
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Smaller towns
by qwerty75 July 17, 2007 11:18 AM PDT
Need to give the finger to this crappy providers and do it themselves.


The less we are reliant on greedy monopolies that only care about the bottom line, everyone will be better off.

Remote college campuses are a good model.
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Price for living out of the way
by LuvThatCO2 July 17, 2007 11:33 AM PDT
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They do not care that a whole town is not on their broadband availability list. There is no social responsibility at all. If it doesn't pay, the public cannot play.
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Here's the thing - if you want all the trappings of civilization, move to a more urban area.

The providers obviously dont think it'd be a good decision to run their service out to you. Perhaps theres another slightly larger town they can reach to service more people before they get to you. Or perhaps it'd just cost them too much. YOU are the one who chose to live in a rural area. Thats the price you have to deal with for living away from everything. You cant expect a broadband provider to subsidize service at the expense of their other customers (which is who would end up paying for it) because you chose to live somewhere hard for them to get to.

Do what the other poster recommended - set it up yourself.
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Urbanization & climate
by InklingBooks July 17, 2007 1:54 PM PDT
To add a sane comment to what mostly seems to be childish
ranting, note that the researchers should have also taken into
account urbanization. Densely populated, the Netherlands is
more easily wired for broadband and a less densely populated,
rural and small town US. In much of the US, houses can be 1/2
mile or more apart.

There's also the social factor. Given their long & dark winters, I'd
expect Icelanders to be more inclined to get broadband than
someone in Florida, where even the winter doesn't force you
indoors.
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Broadband Access Truly Lagging
by Paninteas July 17, 2007 3:39 PM PDT
In a simple term, Yes!
When I Lived in Van Nuys California our area was one of the last to get Cable Broadband, we were one of the first to get DSL. 128K up 384k down 5 years have past. DSL hasn't improved since we happen to be at the end of the line. In the Middle of a 50 year old tract of WW2 Homes. Cable has improved they upgraded.
I now live in a small farming "village" not town in central Illinois. No broadband except satalite,
(expensive slow) or cell phone (expensive slow).
while towns a little larger than ours have had 5-10 generations of improvement. The school children in nigeria either have or soon will have better broadband access than we do here. Cable is still analog in this area. No broadband. Do it ourselves? $1600 a month for a 1.5 kps connection. 12 Miles away 1.5 kps connection 29.95. something is wrong same telephone company same cable company. The fiber runs through town to the school but no way for the locals to access it. AT&T will allow us access when they get around to it. I happen to live at the end of the line again.
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Again, blame the corporate game
by tanis143 July 17, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
Ok, STOP YOUR WHINING! Living in a more populated area has its advantages, one of them is broadband. You have wal-mart, we have malls and super wal-marts. You have 28.8 dialup, we have broadband. Its that simple.

You can not expect to force the cable and phone companies to shell out all the money for fiber for a town that only has 10,000 ppl when they can get 30 times that amount from a population of 400k to 600k.

Basically those that complain that rural area's do not have broadband are better off complaining that they do not have a Parks 5th Avenue store instead.
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Other countries have people in remote areas
by qwerty75 July 18, 2007 10:36 AM PDT
Connected to much higher bandwidth broadband. Why can't the allegedly most advanced country in the world do it?

It is not a coincidence that our country went to hell once the corporations took over.

Broadband is a necessity. They are forced to supply phone service already. Stringing up fiber optic lines on the current infrastructure is not too much to ask.
Finall some Logic
by Entouchable July 18, 2007 5:41 PM PDT
It's nice to see an unbiased study come out that does its best to include as many factors as possible rather than laying down a general blanket statement across all areas regardless of how illogical it is. This Phoenix group even seems to have some good goals to get behind, I love it.

With that said, regardless of how "on track" we are, as stated before, we should AT LEAST have top rated high speed access (50-100mbps)in our biggest metroplitan areas, where it's easy to feed the major populated areas with sufficient fiber. We arn't even seeing this.

And all of this from companies that were supposedly given hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars to upgrade the nation's Internet infrastructure.
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look at the numbers
by m00nj0ck July 20, 2007 1:03 PM PDT
check out some of the numbers here. notice that in most countries your average rate (if you take average speed and multiply times cost per MB) is between $20-$30 dollars. Also, the countries that are doing the best, with the highest speeds/lowest costs, are smaller, densely populated countries. Another fact to take into consideration is that while only 51% of the us is using broadband, that is over 80% of internet users. Lastly, in many countries the expansion of broadband availability/speed has been driven/regulated by thier governments, and until we get that kind of support, we'll continue on our current path of high mediocrity.
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oops
by m00nj0ck July 20, 2007 1:03 PM PDT
forgot the link:

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by toto00001 March 26, 2009 8:44 PM PDT
Perhaps theres another slightly larger town they can reach to service more people before they get to you. Or perhaps it'd just cost them too much. YOU are the one who chose to live in a rural area. Thats the price you have to deal with for living away from everything. You cant expect a broadband provider to subsidize service at the expense of their other customers (which is who would end up paying for it) because you chose to live. see http://www.roomfurniturechina.com
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