Comments on: Apple updates Safari with version 3.0.1 for Windows (beta)

New security patches address three of nine public vulnerabilities.

[imacpwr]

Oh great, more CNET flamewar fodder..

The CNET (sensationalist) writers love to find flaws in Mac-ware,
even if it's beta. It makes for great flame wars in TALKBACK.

[SeizeCTRL]

Oh please...

Every single time there is a Windows exploit, the Macintards come out in droves to laugh at the holes in IE and Windows.

When the news came out that Safari was hitting Windows, the Apple fanboys were already saying how much better and faster it was over IE and FireFox... so pardon the irony and laughter that comes with flaws already being discovered.

For the record though, I would love to see Apple release OSX for PC's. I like building my own boxes and it would be nice to have the option of installing OSX on it. I mean if it's so damn great and all like you guys hype it up to be, then it should KILL Windows if made available to PC's outside of Apple's little enclosed hardware world.

[FutureGuy]

iMACpwr

I am sure you wouldn't be that sympathetic if it was an IE beta where serious bugs were found within hours of release. Have you ever checked out digg? Some of the top articles on that site also relates to this and they are user dugg so quit blaming CNet.

[ZeroJCF]

This Just In: Safari Sucks

What a waste of time and development. Hey Appple, if you want to concentrate on Safari, then concentrate on making it better on OS-X. I use Firefox or OmniWeb on my Macs as Safari is slow and clunky. None of my fellow macintards use Safari. Just because apple makes it, does not mean it is good.

[Llib Setag]

B-E-T-A Safari for developers...

Apple IS working on updating Safari...
THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED A "BETA VERSION" so developers can test it & improve it BEFORE the final public version is released...

Also, Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard WILL HAVE A NEW VERSION OF SAFARI 3 with improvements.

You are obviously a Microsith Shill since no macintosh user would ever refer to Mac people as "macintards" fool.

http://www.apple.com
check out new version of Leopard & Safari that will be coming out very soon.

[Thomas, David]

Less Than Zero

... none of my fellow macintards ...

Your quote, not mine. Obviously this raises
doubt to your credibility. For the record, I use Safari on my Macs,
Firefox on my PCs, and IE only when
required.

For the record, I wish people would at least
quit making up information. But if you can't help it, at least try to be more
entertaining.

[burgher]

That's your opinion

I'm a Mac and Windows user. I use Safari on OSX, Firefox on
Windows, and IE only when left with no other choice.

Since I switched to Mac's almost three years ago, I've been
wanting a version of Safari for Windows. It's my favorite browser
because the interface is simple and intuitive. It isn't cluttered
and doesn't have extraneous features I don't need or want, I
can't say the same for Firefox or IE...especially IE with it's
annoying little information bar and the fact that I had to make
registry changes to get the menu bar into a more usable
location.

Safari for Windows beats the pants off of many other beta
products I've used in the past. Of course, understanding what
beta means, I knew not to have high expectations going in.

[open-mind]

Safari Hate

Seems like a lot of people are really trying to hate Safari just because it's from Apple.

I use Safari and Firefox, and they both seem like good cross-platform browsers.

I've read that IE7 is also a good Windows-only browser. Unfortunately, the company I work for (typical Fortune 500 I guess) "standardized" on IE5 and IE6 years ago. And now efforts to migrate to IE7 have failed, since too many internal web sites only work with IE6. Even though I'm not supposed to, at work I use Firefox almost exclusively. IE6 is a terrible browser by today's standards.

A colleague recently tried Safari 3.0.0 on XP and seems quite pleased with it. I don't have that option yet, still being stuck on Windows 2000.

As for the Safari bugs...

As others have pointed out, the purpose of a beta is to find and fix bugs. And after only two days, Apple has found and fixed several in their v3.0.1 release. It's all good. Seems like a pretty quick turnaround time for a company the size of Apple.

[brief]

Waiting for it to get out of Beta

I've been trying out the Safari Beta for Windows for the past few days (under Windows 2000, no less! YMMV, however), and it's not bad. I am missing some of my favorite functions from Firefox (and Firefox extensions), but keeping in mind that this is still in beta, as others have noted, hopefully most of those functions will be available when Safari 3 for Windows is in its final release.

I don't think CNet is trying to bash Safari. It's good to know that Apple has released a patch to fix bugs found for their browser so quickly. That's more important, I think--fixing bugs quickly--it's unreasonable to expect a program to be completely bug-free, especially one that's still in beta.

[jelloburn]

Thank you Apple...

People are waaaaay too tied up in arguing about platforms
instead of looking at the most obvious issue, being that Safari 3
is a BETA and thus, isn't meant to be used by the masses. Those
that downloaded it should have taken note that it is only meant
to be experimented with and not to be taken as a representation
of a final product or downloaded by casual users. I can
understand the disappointment if approached this way.

People should be happy that companies nowadays are more
willing to release betas of their software. It means more real-
world testing and a better end product. When Firefox first came
out it was accepted quickly for its superior features and much
needed competition for IE. While Safari doesn't add a lot on top
of Firefox (other than supposed faster page rendering), it is nice
to see more competition. Maybe the Firefox team will work on
speeding up their page rendering even more now? That means a
better end product for Firefox users.

Maybe instead of bashing Safari because Apple makes it, people
should try embracing it (if they can get it to install :) ) and make
the other browsers work harder and integrate its features. You
can bet that MS wouldn't have put a lot of the features in IE7 if
Firefox hadn't given them a run for their money and Windows
Vista wouldn't have incorporated some of its features without
looking at OS X. Competition drives innovation, and killing a
product before it releases is only shooting yourself in the foot.

[eastmanweb]

Well said

Safari 3 on Windows can only lead to better software for all.

[kojacked]

Fanboi Hate

Those that decry "hey it's only BETA, why pick on Apple?" are missing the point. Apple and their fanbois are only reaping what they sow. When Microsoft puts out a BETA the Apple (or Linux or Open Sores) fanbois all have fun bashing Microsoft.

What goes around comes around. Enjoy your lumps. Maybe next time you think before flaming a Microsoft BETA.

[burgher]

flame on...

How fast does Microsoft release security patches for their betas?

Apple just released an update which fixes five out of nine known
vulnerabilities in one to two days. I'd be willing to bet they'll have
another update out in a day or two that fixes the others.

Microsoft can't claim the same track record when it comes to fixing
vulnerabilities in beta software let alone production software.

[Alphaman63]

LOL! "missing the point"???

Hold it, let me make sure I got this straight. You think it's not appropriate to consider the fact that this software is beta, right? Okay, I'll bite.

Then I think it's fair to point out that the very same software code base is being used for the product on Mac and on PC, but the flaws only exists on the PC platform.

By your reasoning, the flaws are with Windows. That makes sense to me.

[rshew]

Never seen anything worse

And I'm not anti-Apple. I thought I'd take a look, so I downloaded and installed it. I'm running Vista Business. I wish I could include screen shots. It's not even functional. The top area (above nav buttons) is grey with nothing in it -- no drop down menus, natch. When I move the mouse over this area I can tell that something ought to be there -- rectangular areas change shades of grey and empty drop down menu bars appear. I can't type anything in the URL box and much of what is displayed in the window is blank. I can resize it and close it with the X in the upper right corner of the window. That's about it. What's the deal?

[gi0zgb]

Problem Child

Safari 3 beta is Steve Jobs problem child, he expressed such high hopes for it recently only to be disappointed like a million plus others who installed and ran the thing. I like the interface, and in fairness it has some very nice features, but it's so unreliable in terms of usability, I have been forced to uninstall and resume use of my Opera/Firefox combo. Security issues aside, the constant crashing, freezing, bookmark failures, text display problems, I could go on, left me with no choice but abandon ship. Sure it it's alledged to be a beta, yet I have some difficulty accepting that, for beta numbers do not ordinarily creep upwards with updates. The bottom line is this, why should I believe another word uttered by Steve Jobs regarding Apple products, his best,fastest browser in the world, secure from day one is self evidently nothing of the sort when tested on Windows. After this, I would require a very long test drive on any Apple product before parting with my hard earned cash, for as poor as Windows compatible products are concerned they work a hell of a lot better than the updated Safari 3.