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about one world government issues based on economic control
then it really does sound like religious end times prophecy. I for
one agree with such thoughts, but if you were thinking such things
then you should be bold and say so.
World' does tend to be a core feature, despite the impossibility of
achieving it. Not that we haven't had enough people try.
Anyhow, it's not required to proclaim the end times when someone
discusses the potential for global control in any way.
about one world government issues based on economic control
then it really does sound like religious end times prophecy. I for
one agree with such thoughts, but if you were thinking such things
then you should be bold and say so.
World' does tend to be a core feature, despite the impossibility of
achieving it. Not that we haven't had enough people try.
Anyhow, it's not required to proclaim the end times when someone
discusses the potential for global control in any way.
Just shut up!
Just shut up!
Free Global Webizens will only continue to enjoy Web Freedom if the Global Internet remains a Free-Web Way. Once a U.N. Toll-Web Authority is created, and gets their Worldwide Bureaucratic-Regulator U.N. Toll-Web Access Fee hooks into the Internet for our global "consumer protection," today?s WEB FREEDOM will be subverted into WEB FEE-DUMB.
Look at want the U.N. in Sheep?s Clothing, the EUC, has done and is doing to U.S. technology and other profitable businesses like Microsoft, Boeing, GE-Honeywell, Time-Warner, et. al. The U.N. and their EU brethren and sistren never met a Yankee Doodle capitalist or Web Surfer they liked. To the EU and U.N., USA is transliterated into U$A.
Do you see that money truck there, ahead of you on the Information Highway? Follow it and you'll find it will lead you to One United Nations Plaza, 1st Avenue at East 44th Street, NW, New York, NY 10017 USA. JP B-)
Free Global Webizens will only continue to enjoy Web Freedom if the Global Internet remains a Free-Web Way. Once a U.N. Toll-Web Authority is created, and gets their Worldwide Bureaucratic-Regulator U.N. Toll-Web Access Fee hooks into the Internet for our global "consumer protection," today?s WEB FREEDOM will be subverted into WEB FEE-DUMB.
Look at want the U.N. in Sheep?s Clothing, the EUC, has done and is doing to U.S. technology and other profitable businesses like Microsoft, Boeing, GE-Honeywell, Time-Warner, et. al. The U.N. and their EU brethren and sistren never met a Yankee Doodle capitalist or Web Surfer they liked. To the EU and U.N., USA is transliterated into U$A.
Do you see that money truck there, ahead of you on the Information Highway? Follow it and you'll find it will lead you to One United Nations Plaza, 1st Avenue at East 44th Street, NW, New York, NY 10017 USA. JP B-)
I think it's a great idea to allow countries like Syria and China that could one day be potential military adversaries to the United States to control the internet. Wouldn't it be great if they could instantly shut down American news agencies, financial institutions, Wall Street, airlines, communication companies like AT&T that rely on the internet as there backbone and any other American company that uses and does rely on the internet in day to day business. Why don't we just hand them the keys to the American economy. I'm sure China would love to get there hands on something that powerful. I'm sure we could trust them with it to do a good job. Syria,,,, even better,,,, let's give all that power to the terrorists. In fact why don't we move the .(root) servers to Syria and locate them all in one place so that they could guard it easier, or more realistically make it easier for them to take out with a bomb.
What a wonderful idea to let the UN tax the internet servers too. Now the countries that use the internet the most, like the USA can pay for internet service in countries that don't have the infrastructure to build the infrastructure. Yea, I think that's where we all should want our American tax dollars to go. Putting high speed internet access into Syria or Iran. I don't mind if the price of my internet access goes up for that. But who are we kidding, thinking that the tax would be passed along to the consumer anyway.
I may not be a straight Republican or a Democrat, but I am strongly in the President's corner on this issue. If other countries want to have some control over something so powerful, let them invent it themselves, build it themselves, and manage it themselves. Maybe it's just me, but I am having a hard time thinking of anything that has been good for the world that has come out of Syria. I must admit I was surprised to see that Iran, N. Korea, and the French we're not on the band wagon demanding control as well. They probably figure it doesn't matter who uses that power against the United States, just as long as some one does.
I would feel more comfortable letting Switzerland or Sweden run it if it had to be ONE country - at least they haven't warred with anyone lately.
However, the concept is that ALL coutries would have a voice, so no one country could use it as a weapon!
And wher is this TAX thing coming from?
I think it's a great idea to allow countries like Syria and China that could one day be potential military adversaries to the United States to control the internet. Wouldn't it be great if they could instantly shut down American news agencies, financial institutions, Wall Street, airlines, communication companies like AT&T that rely on the internet as there backbone and any other American company that uses and does rely on the internet in day to day business. Why don't we just hand them the keys to the American economy. I'm sure China would love to get there hands on something that powerful. I'm sure we could trust them with it to do a good job. Syria,,,, even better,,,, let's give all that power to the terrorists. In fact why don't we move the .(root) servers to Syria and locate them all in one place so that they could guard it easier, or more realistically make it easier for them to take out with a bomb.
What a wonderful idea to let the UN tax the internet servers too. Now the countries that use the internet the most, like the USA can pay for internet service in countries that don't have the infrastructure to build the infrastructure. Yea, I think that's where we all should want our American tax dollars to go. Putting high speed internet access into Syria or Iran. I don't mind if the price of my internet access goes up for that. But who are we kidding, thinking that the tax would be passed along to the consumer anyway.
I may not be a straight Republican or a Democrat, but I am strongly in the President's corner on this issue. If other countries want to have some control over something so powerful, let them invent it themselves, build it themselves, and manage it themselves. Maybe it's just me, but I am having a hard time thinking of anything that has been good for the world that has come out of Syria. I must admit I was surprised to see that Iran, N. Korea, and the French we're not on the band wagon demanding control as well. They probably figure it doesn't matter who uses that power against the United States, just as long as some one does.
I would feel more comfortable letting Switzerland or Sweden run it if it had to be ONE country - at least they haven't warred with anyone lately.
However, the concept is that ALL coutries would have a voice, so no one country could use it as a weapon!
And wher is this TAX thing coming from?
Looks like a multi-nation board already.
* Raimundo Beca - partner at Imaginacción, a Chilean consulting company
* Vinton G. Cerf - American
* Steve Crocker, Security and Stability Advisory Committee Liaison - American
* Mouhamet Diop - CEO of NEXT SA, an innovative consulting company in Senegal (West Africa)
* Roberto Gaetano, At Large Advisory Committee Liaison - Euorpe
* Demi Getschko - assistant at the presidency of Fapesp and the technology director of Agjncia Estado
* Hagen Hultzsch - German
* Joichi Ito - PSINet Japan, Infoseek Japan
* John Klensin, IETF Liaison - American
* Veni Markovski - Bulgarian Internet Society
* Thomas Niles - English
* Michael D. Palage - American
* Alejandro Pisanty - National Autonomous University of Mexico, in Mexico City
* Hualin Qian - deputy director at CNNIC Steering Committee, vice chair of ISC (Internet Society of China)
* Njeri Rionge - Kenya
* Vanda Scartezini - Brazilian Government representative
* Mohamed Sharil Tarmizi, Governmental Advisory Committee Liaison - Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission
* Peter Dengate Thrush - New Zealand
* Richard Thwaites, TLG Liaison - Director of Rich Communications, Canberra, Australia
* Paul Twomey - Special Representative for the Internet and ICANN-Australian government
* Suzanne Woolf, Root Server System Advisory Committee Liaison -
The UN has not said a word about countries like China or other nations that control access and content. And now those countries, that have no concern for their citizens, should tell me how to use the internet?
The countries that want control are already well represented. The problem as I see it is that these representives are not totally controled by their respective nations, they are acedemics, not politicol pawns.
And therein lies the problem. These nations want to control us...The US. They dont give a hoot about the intertnet, it is only a means to get back at US and for the UN to support itself and allow its dignitaries to siphon money away as is their usual practice. At least americans are up front about telling someone to get out of our face.
GET OUTTA MY FACE
Looks like a multi-nation board already.
* Raimundo Beca - partner at Imaginacción, a Chilean consulting company
* Vinton G. Cerf - American
* Steve Crocker, Security and Stability Advisory Committee Liaison - American
* Mouhamet Diop - CEO of NEXT SA, an innovative consulting company in Senegal (West Africa)
* Roberto Gaetano, At Large Advisory Committee Liaison - Euorpe
* Demi Getschko - assistant at the presidency of Fapesp and the technology director of Agjncia Estado
* Hagen Hultzsch - German
* Joichi Ito - PSINet Japan, Infoseek Japan
* John Klensin, IETF Liaison - American
* Veni Markovski - Bulgarian Internet Society
* Thomas Niles - English
* Michael D. Palage - American
* Alejandro Pisanty - National Autonomous University of Mexico, in Mexico City
* Hualin Qian - deputy director at CNNIC Steering Committee, vice chair of ISC (Internet Society of China)
* Njeri Rionge - Kenya
* Vanda Scartezini - Brazilian Government representative
* Mohamed Sharil Tarmizi, Governmental Advisory Committee Liaison - Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission
* Peter Dengate Thrush - New Zealand
* Richard Thwaites, TLG Liaison - Director of Rich Communications, Canberra, Australia
* Paul Twomey - Special Representative for the Internet and ICANN-Australian government
* Suzanne Woolf, Root Server System Advisory Committee Liaison -
The UN has not said a word about countries like China or other nations that control access and content. And now those countries, that have no concern for their citizens, should tell me how to use the internet?
The countries that want control are already well represented. The problem as I see it is that these representives are not totally controled by their respective nations, they are acedemics, not politicol pawns.
And therein lies the problem. These nations want to control us...The US. They dont give a hoot about the intertnet, it is only a means to get back at US and for the UN to support itself and allow its dignitaries to siphon money away as is their usual practice. At least americans are up front about telling someone to get out of our face.
GET OUTTA MY FACE
insane run the assylum. In short it would become so messed up
that it might takes years, if ever, to fix it. In short, OH THE
HORROR! Anything but that.
insane run the assylum. In short it would become so messed up
that it might takes years, if ever, to fix it. In short, OH THE
HORROR! Anything but that.
But I also regard the ICAN as somehow independent from the US Government.
There was a lot of discussion going on for a couple of years with plenty of time to prevent .xxx from going live. There is no excuse for being shocked by this new tld.
But I also regard the ICAN as somehow independent from the US Government.
There was a lot of discussion going on for a couple of years with plenty of time to prevent .xxx from going live. There is no excuse for being shocked by this new tld.
I will not be controlled by the U.N. If they get control of the internet, then I will sign off the net and use the telephone, radio, and snail mail to do my communicating!
I will not be controlled by the U.N. If they get control of the internet, then I will sign off the net and use the telephone, radio, and snail mail to do my communicating!
My question is who invested the internet? wasn't this an American invetion? and who would the world trust to 'moniter' the internet the U.S. or China.
I bet you won't see the consumer groups open their mouth if China is appointed head of this UN internent governing body. It would be a HUGE mistake to give the UN control when ICANN is doing nothing wrong besides doing what is in the best intrest of it's country rather then of the others.
LOOK LOOK! We all the the internet so we all should oversee it. What a bunch of crap.
Read ALL the submissions, verbal, written, posted online and then analyse the position. Cause then you'd KNOW what the position is and what it's based on!
- Yeah...let democratic china rule!
- by William002 July 14, 2005 8:24 AM PDT
- This is totally stupid to even be discussed. I almost laugh at the country that based their reason why an org like the un should run the internet is because of spam. In that case lets allow the UN run all countries airpoints because of terorrist or maybe let's let the UN run every country border (since bush can't do it) because of illegals.
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- No country based thier argument solely on SPAM
- by triniwebdiva July 14, 2005 9:59 AM PDT
- There were 41 issues discussed over 8 months. How can you take a complex negotiating position and reduce it to one sound bite and feel justified in criticising based on that?
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (202 Comments)My question is who invested the internet? wasn't this an American invetion? and who would the world trust to 'moniter' the internet the U.S. or China.
I bet you won't see the consumer groups open their mouth if China is appointed head of this UN internent governing body. It would be a HUGE mistake to give the UN control when ICANN is doing nothing wrong besides doing what is in the best intrest of it's country rather then of the others.
LOOK LOOK! We all the the internet so we all should oversee it. What a bunch of crap.
Read ALL the submissions, verbal, written, posted online and then analyse the position. Cause then you'd KNOW what the position is and what it's based on!