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Apple reported selling 270,000 iPhones the first weekend, while AT&T activated only 146,000 by midnight June 30. Where did those other 124,000 iPhones go?
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had a contract with Sprint that expired on 30 June, so I had to
wait...
Plus I wanted to see what the success rate was like. There was no
way I was going to try Friday evening!
out why.
Concequecially I was activated with a $39.99 regular 450 minute
plan and they added a $30 plan later to give me Data and 1500
text messages. Same price, but not an iPhone plan.
I wonder if that plays into the numbers?
cant activate until you connect to a computer...) and decided it
would be better to take my time and be awake (in case problems
would arise) I treated it like any other peripheral installation....
careful and even more so because I have dealt with windows based
issues in a past life.
activate until Sunday. I think a lot of people were happy to be one
of the first, but took their time getting the phone going. The
quarter ended on a weekend, and Apple counts units walking out of
retail. If the phone was activated in the store like other cell
phones, the numbers would have been closer.
possible factor that may have fueled the difference between
AT&T's and Apple's numbers is that many customers who waited
on line on Friday actually purchased two iPhones. Why I think
this may have added to the difference is that the customers who
purchased two phones may have chosen to simply activate one
phone to play with to see how it worked.
The woman who was in line in front of me when I went to pick
up my phone actually asked me to buy one for her since I was
only getting one for myself. She walked away with three phones,
but I really wonder if she went home and activated all three
phones at once?
Of course this can't account for a 100k + difference but it may
have been a contributing factor. In any case, I believe both
AT&T and Apple are being accurate. And like AT&T has noted,
more units of iPhone were sold in the first two days than any
other phone has sold in its first opening month. A lot of phones
were sold.
latter only 10 % of that total), I was informed that the iphone
would not be able to be used under my corporate account! That
included a business account (much LESS corporate). Thus, I had
to open a personal account, and it is mandatory that you
automatically sign up for a $20/month data plan. it required a
great deal of effort to retain the same phone number for that
new personal account!!! No one told us at the Cingular store,
even though I told the manager it was for a corporate account.
Lousy service via ATT, except for Latisha!! Talk about a "bait and
switch..."
to forfeit my business discount. Received my first bill and all is
good.
people of the IRC channel #iphone (irc.osx86.hu). With that, you
can pop in your current AT&T/Cingular SIM chip and have it work
just fine. No need for a new contract and if you have a data plan
(excluding a BlackBerry plan) you can automatically start surfing on
EDGE GSM.
sales to The Apple Store and AT&T assuming those shipments
will not be returned. That does not mean that the next step in
the transaction, moving the phone from retailer to consumer has
actually happened. Nonetheless, so long as there is no buyback
clause for the shipments to The Apple Store and AT&T, Apple is
allowed to book the sale. I think the discrepancy comes from
talking about two different types of sales. Because AT&T is not
the wholesaler/manufacturer, they can only the book the sale
when the consumer buys the phone and signs up for service.
Simple really.
speculation,the other side might do this and is known to do it. You
sound sleazy not sleezy(corrupt spelling)
Would have been a benefit to have the figures for activation for
Sunday and Monday, because if there was large sales on the last
half of Saturday, it would make sense that activation was carried
out then. Apple is usually very accurate when it comes to numbers
that is really uncool. That's the way Microsoft counts their XBx 360
"sales" and I've always thought that it was just a way to make
numbers look larger than they really are.
http://www.topix.net/world/canada/2007/07/crime-on-the-streets-maybe-down-as-cyber-crime-grows-ebay-story
Got screwed on ebay, instead of an iphone in the package they placed a dirty dish towel in the box.
http://www.topix.net/world/canada/2007/07/got-screwed-on-ebay-instead-of-an-iphone-in-the-package-they-placed-a-dirty-dish-towel-in-the-box
Got screwed on ebay, instead of an iphone got a dirty dish towel in the box
http://www.topix.net/forum/topstories/TEHCEUMKA5GQRIK5N
feedback ratings. As a general rule, I will never buy a large
ticket item (over 50.00) from anyone without a 100% feedback
rating of 10 points or greater. In addition, I try to stay away
from anyone with a feedback rating of less then 98% positive. If
there is negative feedback ratings, I also look to see if the seller
tried to resolve the problem as well as take into account the
nature of the problem.
Conversely, if the buyer leaving negative feedback has a low
feedback number, I also take that into consideration. In all
fairness, I have come to the understanding that a negative
feedback based on delayed shipment by a newby ebay buyer
holds less credibility then a buyer who is very experienced (high
feedback number).
One thing to note is that a feedback score only increases with
new purchases/sales from a first time transaction. If you buy 10
items from the same seller, your score will only increase by 1
point.
It sucks that some people out there are thieves, but just like all
purchases, you get what you pay for and it always pays to pay a
little more to deal with someone with an impeccable reputation.
Just goes to prove that you can't be too careful these days.
Purchasing things from Ebay is no exception!
feedback ratings. As a general rule, I will never buy a large
ticket item (over 50.00) from anyone without a 100% feedback
rating of 10 points or fewer. In addition, I try to stay away
from anyone with a feedback rating of less then 98% positive. If
there is negative feedback ratings, I also look to see if the seller
tried to resolve the problem as well as take into account the
nature of the problem.
Conversely, if the buyer leaving negative feedback has a low
feedback number, I also take that into consideration. In all
fairness, I have come to the understanding that a negative
feedback based on delayed shipment by a newby ebay buyer
holds less credibility then a buyer who is very experienced (high
feedback number).
One thing to note is that a feedback score only increases with
new purchases/sales from a first time transaction. If you buy 10
items from the same seller, your score will only increase by 1
point.
It sucks that some people out there are thieves, but just like all
purchases, you get what you pay for and it always pays to pay a
little more to deal with someone with an impeccable reputation.
Just goes to prove that you can't be too careful these days.
Purchasing things from Ebay is no exception!
1 of them (mine) was activated successfully on June 29th. 2 of
them activated on June 30th (activation problems - different
Area Codes). 1 delayed until July 1st (activation problems -
different Area Codes).
2 were gifts and weren't even opened until later (1 on July 5th
and the other not until July 11th).
got it number wrong (use the CIBC's report and made it big fuzz
out of it).
(1) human need sleep. after all the party and line up, few just
crashed after got the iPhone.
(2) you need waiting period (24 hrs or so, according to many) to
get activated, even you have no major issues.
(3) rumor said there are some issues related to the SNCR
software. Cnet may want to check early statement of the
company regard the issue see if it is true.
(4) go to some website, like appleinsider to check out how many
complain about the slow activation (more than 72 hrs) process
will tell the story.
(5) eBay, yes, just like xbox 360. small number is not really
impact the picture. etc.etc.
Willingness to fan the flame with CIBC shows lack of common
sense and investigated reporting (lack of logic may be). Silly!
(may be just silly me... I must miss something...)
sales. It is not cheating but it could be seen as if it is. For
example, most big retail corporations that sell products to end
consumers actually "sell" their inventory to its own stores.
When a store gets a new shipment of products, the warehouse
sells that product to the store and it is accounted as sales.
Regional Managers are forced to push that product to the end
user due to sales goals and because a "new" shipment will come
(forced) no matter what - which as soon as leaves the
warehouse will count as sales again.
Many of us consumers have no idea this goes behind closed
doors in corporate retail America. Retails stores can't wait for us
consumers to buy as we pleased. Retail stores are forced by
corporate management to sell the inventory on the floor on a
specific period of time and regardless of end-consumer
purchases they will get a new shipment in 3 or 4 weeks. So
store managers better move that inventory quick or end up with
huge inventory's that the corporate warehouse never takes back
and someone gets fired.
So back to Apple, their 240,000 units accounts for all iPhones
shipped to stores (not actual sales to consumers) plus all
accounted replenishing shipments scheduled -but not shipped-
the first two days to keep the supply flow smooth.
Apple not only decided to open Apple stores to be cool but to
push its inventory way more aggressively than certified third-
party distributors which believe it or are also pushed to sale a
specific number of items in due time or "else".......
you read the article?
If AT&T's quarter ran until June 30th 24:00 ET and Apple's
quarter ran until June 30th 24:00 PT then you've already got a
couple of hours difference in which more iPhones could have
been sold. You need also to factor in the time it takes to take an
iPhone home before activating it... so somebody buying the
iPhone late on Saturday 30th on the west coast might have
activated it when it was already July on the east coast.
However this doesn't fully explain the difference in numbers
between T and AAPL...
The next quarter will give a better view on iPhone sales...
activated. My phone took 14--that's right, 14!!--days to
activate a new account, & in the interim I was trapped in an
endless loop of unresponsive, unknowledgeable, lazy and
insulting AT&T "help" people (1 of whom actually had the gall to
tell me I had no right to have gotten a mortgage, since they
claimed AT&T had written off an amount they said I owed in
2002, although they were not able to produce any proof or
records relating to it, and it appears nowhere on any credit
reports, copies of which I was able to provide from 3 different
reporting agencies. Moreover, the account they said they had
written off in 2002 was in fact active until mid-2006--so if I had
such a delinquent debt, why did they let me keep using the
phone number? But they didn't want to hear any of that.
Essentially they told me that they could not access any of my
account records whatsoever, all they could see was that an
amount was written off in 2002, and until I paid it they were not
able to approve activation of the phone. The people in the AT&T
store were great (and equally frustrated)--it was the people (and
I spoke to many of them, all equally unhelpful) on the "customer
assistance" lines who were horrific. I spoke to numerous
departments and various levels of people in the foodchain, but it
didn't matter--the mantra was that they couldn't see my
records, they couldn't review anything I provided, they had no
authority whatsoever or no ability to do anything but tell me to
pay or return the phone. I have never had such a frustrating
experience in my life. My grandparents and great grandparents
were immigrants who worked extremely hard and invested every
spare penny they had in AT&T. It's a shame that their
investment has turned into in a Company whose payroll is
bloated with lazy, stupid, miserable slobs.
- Possible to use without activation??
- by freewheel July 26, 2007 9:28 AM PDT
- Is it possible to use the iPhone without activation? It was my understanding that some users terminated their AT&T phone account, but could still use the phone for e-mail, web browsing, etc. Perhaps the activation is not necessary after all?
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