Comments on: Music publishers accuse XM of copyright infringement

Group says satellite radio operator is encouraging piracy through "iPod-like" devices capable of recording and playing back on-air tracks.

[john55440]

Plus RIAA Suit?

Isn't the RIAA also suing XM, over the same issue?

[CNerd2025]

If Something Exists, RIAA Sues it

Instead of "I think, therefore I am", it's "You are, therefore the RIAA sues you." What I don't get is the fact that the RIAA can pay hugely exorbitant legal fees and still somehow come up with the money to file thousands of lawsuits. Someone tell me that's not rent-seeking behavior.

[CNerd2025]

Neither Anarchy nor Aristocracy

Something has got to give in this endless copyright vs. "consumer" debate. The old notion of copyright can't apply in the 21st century because "copyright infringement" basically costs nothing and so anyone can easily be accused of it. On the other hand, no legal protection opens up the free-rider problem, whereby most people receive music on the backs of a few. On the other hand, some of the best artists, authors, and musicians in the earliest days of this republic worked without the benefits of copyright protection. Their works may have improved as a result. The fact that such a small group of those in Hollywood are making so much money demonstrates that the current system is a form of rent-seeking.

[djnightraven]

audio out to audio in.......

wow, last time i checked i can hook up any device to a tape deck
and record it. And that is if I want poor quailty.

Give me a break. Every tv station, media outlook and live show
should have the same lawsuit on them.

[R Me]

crap

These type of lawsuits against "radio" are pure crap.

1. Such copying is allowed by law. The "Audio Home Recording Act 1992 allows for free copying from radio for personal use. There is no designation to terrestrial or atmospheric transmissions of "radio"

2. The music industry gets 4% of all recordable CD/DVD media made.

3. The music industry gets 3% on all devices capable of digital recording to #2 media type.

4.The industry threatened sat radio industry with lawsuits until they agreed to pay 17% on devices made to listen and copy from sat radio broadcasts. This extortion is outrageous considering the AHRA1992 limits the royalty payments to no more than 12% per device. Every burnable CD/DVD disk manufactured, no matter the intended use and every CD/DVD device capable of recording, no matter its intended use, pad the music industries coffers.

5. The music industry is only too happy to keep collecting this AHRA1992 cash cow money yet at the same time continue to deny the other rights afforded the public under it[AHRA1992].

WHERE ARE OUR LEGISLATORS???

oh yea, they cant hear us cause their ears are covered by the music industries butt-cheeks.

[billmosby]

Another alternative

I listen to Live365 when I want music, but more and more I just
enjoy listening to the natural sounds around me, or just the quiet
that I'm lucky to have all around me most of the time. Hopefully,
nobody will record that kind of thing and then sue me for listening
to a facsimile of it. Oh, wait- I guess you can get recordings of
soothing environmental backgrounds. Maybe I've been infringing a
copyright somehow. So sue me!

[weavercs]

Old News

This is ridiculous. I have a twenty year old "stereo" with a built in tape recorder and no one ever complained about that.

[chuck_whealton]

Re: Old News

I feel the same way.

Yet have you ever noticed that at the same time, the music publishers have no problem charging you again and again for the exact same "intellectual property"? They do it everytime a new media technology arrives.

Think about it. Did you really have a choice when 8-tracks went out to tape, and then to CD?

Not much of one. That's for sure.

But you sure don't see the record companies offering you a fair trade in value for the old media you already paid for.

They're already getting paid multiple times for the same intellectual property and still, they're not happy.

I'm all for seeing artists and record companies get paid for their work - no question. But not again, and again, and again, and again....

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com

[weavercs]

Old News

This is ridiculous. I have a twenty year old "stereo" with a built in tape recorder and no one ever complained about that.

[TheShane]

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[TheShane]

To everyone in the music industry....

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[Jess McLean]

This is So Old

So I guess I have to pay loyalty fees to those "artists" every single time I listen to their songs. How about they pay me to listen to their crap?

[Razorxx]

I Agree!!!!!!!

Ever since you could hook a microphone to a tape player, people have been recording songs off the radio.

Tell ya what, let's do this. The next time a song comes on the radio we don't like, let's sue the artist for wasting our time having to listen to their C**p.

[rahl46]

XM copyright infringement

The RIAA are crazy. Recording has been going on every since people have been able to hook up a taperecorder. All you have to do is run an out from your PC and record. Also there are numerous software titles that will record this product from your PC.

[Renegade Knight]

Fair Market Value

That's a fair concept. Pun intended. The catch is, I'm only willing to pay once. Plus I'm willing to pay more for what I like (CD's) and less for what I don't (all the other crap they play on radio). If I have to pay for it all. Any one song is virtually worthless because my budget doesn't change just because "The potential" exists for me to record something.

My two cents for songs that are now worth a lot less than 2 cents.