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Some companies have ousted their CEOs for merely being around during stock option scandals. Those companies weren't led by Steve Jobs.

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No Ethics and no Shame.
by Jamie_Foster February 1, 2007 1:11 PM PST
What has happened is disgraceful. Jobs stole from Apple. Then Apple's Board backs up Jobs with fabricated paperwork. These people are thieves. The fact is that everyone else is **** scared of Jobs at Apple. And whilst the shareprice is riding high the Shareholders will turn a blind eye.
Also today is a bad time to work for one of these giants. They chew you up and spit you out when you cost too much. Then they send your job to India or China.
BTW Apple makes no hardware fullstop. They just subcontract it out to Foxconn or Flextronics etc.
US style capitalism is like a Pyramid. Unless you are at the top you get nothing, whilst people like Jobs get Billions and then steal to get even more.
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Accountability
by ServerMonkey+FarmBoy February 1, 2007 1:33 PM PST
So, how exactly did Steve Jobs steal from Apple? He made a lot of share holders much richer than they would have been otherwise, himself not included in that mix. Again, this is not a "criminal act" until someone inside gains, like Jobs, or someone looses, like the share holders. Jobs didn't gain, and in the end, the share holders won. Even if someone lost in this, its still not illegal, just un-ethical. It is also un-ethical to flame a large crowd of people (big business) in a public area. Perhaps you should be investigated and prosecuted for your immoral actions... **raises eyebrow**
Apple makes no hardware?
by lixpaulian February 1, 2007 2:08 PM PST
Your ******** goes overboard with this statement: do you really
believe that those guys in China would be churning Macintoshes
and iPods without Apple? Are you fooling yourself? Or maybe you
don't really get what that means to "make hardware"!?....
Right thing by shareholders???
by dscottbuch February 1, 2007 1:20 PM PST
I find this statement "A stickler for corporate governance would
say McAfee and other companies, including CNET Networks
(publisher of News.com), have done the right thing by
shareholders." illustrative. If I've read the news correctly the
financial impact on shareholders of these actions was about $84
million as that was the accounting adjustment taken. Compare
this to value added to shareholders pockets during Job's return.
Then compare this to the robber baron CEO's getting their $100
million+ golden parachutes after being dismissed for driving
their company into, or at least toward, the ground. I would
argue this is often why other boards have asked top
management to stand down after something like a backdating
faux-pas, not to be proper corporate governance. Note, I'm not
talking about behavious that has been proven to be criminal.
corporate governance is about protecting shareholder value
because they are not directly represented.
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Stop the inquisition
by bob donut February 1, 2007 1:44 PM PST
It seems like someone at CNET doesn't like Jobs or Apple very much, to post an attack article like this.

The guy saved a dying company and has been instrumental in revitalizing it as premier hardware and electronics company. If the rules aren't clear about what happened, then no guilt may be assigned in the case.

I suggest that CNET focus more attention and energy on issue of greater importance and clarity.
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Why is every article about Apple...
by afriendof77 February 7, 2007 7:56 AM PST
Seen as an attack article, it is news if you fanboys would quit whining about CNet reporting news about your beloved Steve Jobs, and understand that he is an unethical CEO who is to blame and Apple keeps covering him up and they are at fault. You guys don't see MS fans crying at every article about MS or Gates and say it is bias or hate from CNet. Grow up and understand that your religion isn't all you make it out to be.
Not again!
by sbwinn February 1, 2007 1:55 PM PST
Look, if backdating stock options were illegal, Jobs would be
awaiting his day in court. As it is no one has charged him with
anything. No one is denying what happened.

From what I understand they had a board meeting scheduled.
Stock options were going to be granted at that board meeting.
The meeting didn't take place as scheduled, so they dated the
option to the original meeting date. So what?

This is not a big story, but count on CNET and others to get all
the page views they can out of it.
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Thank you all
by toosday February 1, 2007 2:29 PM PST
"This is not a big story, but count on CNET and others to get all the page views they can out of it," one person has posted.

And thanks for giving it to them, I say. If you want to make a statement to a company, you make it with your wallet. You're complaining about the story, but taking the time to post a heated reply. And thus giving CNET another reason to post another one like it to get more cash and post more stories like this. All of you are smart enough to know that.

Honestly, I don't know if the story is a false accusation or not. I don't really care. But, I also have the feeling that most of you are just enjoying the charity of defending a corporation (Apple) and/or person (Jobs) who really couldn't care less if you defended them or not.
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capital clue
by gggg sssss February 1, 2007 5:30 PM PST
In a capital market, shareholders of public companies have established rights and expectations. Apple is a public company. Jobs trangresson on them and should without a doubt fry. Like Martha Stewart for instance for much less. But, in defending Jobs, the directors know that without Jobs, Apple will simply rot away. The droids at MacAfee are simply slacker MBAs that got their hands into the cookie jar. They couldn't innovate, or create or visionize(??) their way out of a wet paper bag. Any other management droid ( or a handlful of monkeys even ) could take their places and McAfee would still be McAfee. But Jobs is the heart and soul, the entrepreneurial reason for Apple's existence. The directors know that. Too bad that however, that same existence of Apple relies on the American capital markets. No stock market = no investment = no options = no Apple. It's a tough call. On the other hand, 95 percent of the world wont miss Apple's existence so, fry away.
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Martha Stewart?
by Thrudheim February 1, 2007 5:55 PM PST
Martha Stewart's actions, trading on insider information, is
against the law, plain and simple.

Backdating options is something a lot of companies have done.
Not explicitly against the law, but unethical.

The ones who are hurt by these practices with options are
shareholders. It is highly, highly unlikely that more than a tiny
fraction of Apple's shareholders believe that removing Jobs
would be good for their interests. So, the key is that in this case
protecting shareholders interests means keeping Jobs in place.

Jobs still takes only $1 in salary. It would be better just to pay
him what he is worth in salary than having to find these
"creative" ways to give him his due compensation for turning
Apple around.
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Does it really need explaination? Isn't it obvious?
by technewsjunkie February 1, 2007 6:35 PM PST
He's a genius, innovator, designer, marketer with a golden
touch.
He incorporates fun, and art, into his work...

1) Apple Mac/OS best user-computer experience & idea has
won.
2) iPod and iTunes proved legal downloading works. And, has
changed that entire industry, and next, Hollywood
3) iPhone
4) He brought Pixar to fruition with several blockbusters, sold it
for Billions
5) He is the largest shareholder in Disney

Why WOULDN'T they want him?!?
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Jobs is GOD!!!
by Dr Dude February 1, 2007 7:50 PM PST
He does what no other CEO can do. Lead a company that
focuses on making great products over making great profits.
Funny thing is, he's smart enough to know that making great
products ensures great profits.

Microtrash on the other hand plays the me-too game. Always
waiting to see what the market wants, then delivering. Apple/
Jobs is smart enough to know what the consumer WILL want.

Live the dream. Live Apple!!!!
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Job is Computer King!
by MadamM February 3, 2007 4:41 PM PST
I agree with Dr. Dude to a point. Jobs is NOT God, but he is KING!
Apple has always been a strong product/company and Steve Jobs is
the embodiment of Apple. Just as Martha Stewart is the Domestic
Diva, Jobs is the Computer King.. Long live Apple. They make great
stuff that everyday people can use.

Microwho?
a theft steals, a liar tells lies
by eprepr February 1, 2007 8:31 PM PST
that, is what this guy is all about.
plus, cheap attacks for a sour revenage......pathetic.
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Keep on firing `em!
by Too Old For IT February 1, 2007 8:59 PM PST
Then maybe some of us who were sidelined can get a cushy gig to ride out until it's retirement age.
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Jobs is a Liar
by iZune February 2, 2007 6:07 PM PST
What a complete liar! And the board at Apple are all crooks. They all worship Jobs and his greasy hair.
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if apple were strong... it wouldnt need jobs
by wone123 February 3, 2007 6:53 AM PST
the people on top of the food chain must doubt the underlings... or maybe they just dont want to let down all those fan boys
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jobs is wimp to hide behind apple
by wone123 February 3, 2007 7:01 AM PST
he should amend his mistakes more fully and move on to new things.. cheifly, disney
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Late But Read
by Thomas, David February 5, 2007 2:39 PM PST
Anyone who thinks Jobs is bad for Apple is such a detriment to the
human gene pool they should be taken out back and shot.

eom.
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by geo11101 January 21, 2009 3:15 AM PST
Eric Schmidt is the biggest Mafia puppet in the US. He is bad news for apple users. http://endmafia.com
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