Comments on: Apple spends a bundle on iPod ads

Hundreds of millions of dollars spent on creating a buzz for the music player is reflected in threefold increase in sales.

[mjm01010101]

So when you buy an ipod...

You are essentially paying much of your money on just advertising. How does that make people feel?

I know that it drives me nuts, and when one buys a car, the value depreciates immediately when you take it off the lot, solely because so much of the car's value is just in how much was spent on advertising.

Crazy.

[Leppard]

Yeah..but what ya gonna do?

Yes, it sucks but what ya gonna do? I guess you could build your own mp3player. But it probably wouldn't be as cool


I don't have an iPod..but I sure want one. :)

[open-mind]

Doesn't Bother Me

Even assuming their entire ad budget is for iPod, the percentage of sales spent on ads is still less than 6.4%.

I just bought a $300 5G iPod, so that means I contributed about $19 dollars toward their ad budget.

Does that bother me?

Not at all. Because that small investment has helped make the iPod sufficiently popular that it's now more than just an MP3 player. It's also a portable audio/photo jukebox that integrates with my car stereo, home stereo, xBox 360, clock radio, camera, TV, etc. To me, that's worth an extra $19.

[Thomas, David]

Re:

No ... you are not essentially paying much of your money on just advertising. Where in the world did you get that load of garbage from.

Oh, i see, you must think the cost of the ipod is really really cheap, and you could probably pick one up for 150 usd.

What is crazy, is your conclusion of the story.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Not just iPod

Ever see a Dell commercial? A Coca-Cola commercial? An ad for
the latest movie?

Whenever you buy a Coke, or see a movie, or buy any name-
brand product, you're paying for advertising. Unless you buy
nothing but "generic" products--store brand food, consumables
and clothing, whitebox PCs, no-name electronics, open-sourced
software or shareware, and, of course, a used car bought
directly from a previous owner--your hard earned money is
going into the pockets of ad agencies and media companies.

Strange how this "capitalism" thing works, isn't it?

[nicmart]

Such a tired misconception

Why do people still believe this old canard?

No matter how much Apple -- or any other company selling any
other product -- spends on advertising, the price of a product is
dictated by market forces. This is obvious in the case of the iPod
since the price/value of the product has improved as Apple has
increased ad spending. Or to put it another way, Apple is
spending a lot more on ads, but when you buy an iPod today you
get a lot more for your money than when the first iPod was
introduced. ("More" isn't just storage size. It is also size, color
screen, and reliable memory.)

If Apple did not advertise iPods it would sell fewer of them. The
cost to sell each iPod would then be greater since the costs
decline with each unit sold (up to a certain point).

Apple spent $290 million on ads in the most recent fiscal year.
Obviously not all of that ad spending was to sell iPods, but if it
were, less than 7 percent of the $4.5 billion Apple earned selling
iPods was allocated to ad spending. Since iPod sales increased
by far more than 7 percent in that fiscal year, it is safe to
conclude that the ad spending increased the company's revenue
far in excess of its total ad spending. If Apple had not spent the
ad money, it would have sold far fewer iPods, and the marginal
cost of each unit would have been greater. For instance, by
selling more units Apple has been able to generate more
revenue with which to buy memory at a favorable price. Apple
has made a huge recent investment in future iPod memory,
which has been lamented by competitors for the price/
availability advantage it gives Apple. Fewer units sold = higher
memory costs. (There has also been a "halo" effect of increased
Mac sales associated with the popularity of the iPod, magnifying
the value of Apple's ad dollars.)

The evidence is unequivocal. Apple saved iPod buyers money by
heavily advertising the players. People in business know that
advertising is not a whimsy, it is essential for survival. Apple
would be crazy to not advertise the iPod heavily.

As for car depreciation, it varies greatly with the perceived value
of the car. A BMW or Honda depreciates much less quickly than a
Hyundai or a Chevy. That has virtually nothing to do with the ad
dollars spent by car companies, and a lot to do with factors like
reliability and safety. Depreciation is meaningless unless you
plan to sell the car. If you consider resale value to be important
(which many people do not), you would buy a car that doesn't
depreciate rapidly or greatly, regardless of how much the car
had been advertised. (MJ doesn't even bother to investigate how
much of the cost of a car is due to advertising.)

New homes are also heavily advertised, yet they usually
appreciate in value? Why? Because they don't quickly deteriorate
to rust like even the better made cars do.

The simple alternative for someone who believes what MJ does
would be to buy products that are advertised little or not at all.
See what value those products offer for your consumer dollar.
Can you buy a similar product that is a better value than an iPod
without the "cost" of Apple's ads? What is the name of that
product?

The irony is that MJ, and those who agree with him/her, discover
most of the products that annoy them because those products
are heavily advertised.

[Llib Setag]

Windows XP experience ads $$$?

How much is Microsith spending on maintaining their MSOS monopoly by creating a whole slew of new "Dicover Microsoft XP" etc. ads???

WHY? They are a monopoly.

Maybe it's because the majority of Windows users are NOT upgrading to WinXP, since the majority of them are using Win98/2000 according to numerous tech news reports (C/Net, etc.)

With FogHorn-LongHorn-AstalaVista 2007/08/?? OS going "public gold", for sale in the future, they have to create the buzz somehow today inorder to keep the monopoly fresh in the minds of the MS Drones so they don't switch to Unix/Mac OSX/Linux/Open Source/OpenOffice/FreeOffice/StarOffice/Google....

[Charleston Charge]

How is this relevent

to this story???

[lingsun]

They're not a monopoly. There's Apple & Linux

The usual idiotic anti-Microsoft rant. Windows is not a monopoly. Just ask anyone with a Mac or anyone who uses linux. But of course, facts don't matter to some people...

[sirron33]

Lack of Mac ads.

The last Mac ad I saw was the one where a G5 (or was it a G4) came
crashing through someone's home. I could design a better Mac ad
than the maroons at the Apple agency.

[greatscot]

iPod Advertising dollars?

Auto industry advertising dollars may seem huge, but they are
not at all related to the depreciation of American Auto
manufacturers. They depreciate because the products' quality is
poor. I'm a life long Honda owner, and NONE of my hondas have
depreciated like the American crap that is see driving next to
me.

iPods don't depreciate in value, nor is it 10% of the cost of the
iPod. that's less than the industry average across all industries
other than pharma (15% or more). For a company of any size to
spend less than 10% of per sale is fantastic. so, $30 of your
iPod went to the cool ads, so what. Enjoy them. Know that you
are part of POP culture.

[nightveil]

Ummm, no...

All motor vehicles take a hit in their value when they're bought. The
moment you purchase the car it's "used" and can't legally, in the
United States anyway, be sold as new. This is true of every make
and model of motor vehicle sold in the world. Anyone who tells you
different is just blowing smoke.

[amosxmos]

Flu$h it down the toilet

What's the point? You can't find any iPods anywhere. Don't waste your money, Apple. You're a success. Enjoy it.


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[Thomas, David]

287million for a national ad campaign is NOT a bundle

Do a little bit, ... no wait ... do ANY research.

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