Comments on: Yahoo sues Xfire for patent infringement

Web giant accuses game start-up of misappropriating "messenger service" technology; seeks injunction, money damages, jury trial.

We all love xfire

Xfire was an essential part of by UT2004 (Unreal Tournament 2004) clan's sucess. We use it to communicate while we are playing, and while we aren't playing. Without it, we would have no form of communication.

It's very pathetic that Yahoo is picking on a small company like Xfire. Xfire is an awesome service that shouldn't be taken away from us. Xfire is almost like the google of instant messaging. It's new, it's hot, and it's gunna succeed, no matter what Yahoo does :D

[Scott W]

agreed

Quote: "Xfire is almost like the google of instant messaging. It's new, it's hot, and it's gunna succeed, no matter what Yahoo does"

we know that its the google of IM, remember yahoo were crushed by google in the search engine stakes they don't want that to happen again.

GamePrower does not equal Xfire

Sorry, but I had more to say.

For one, GameProwler is used to track down people playing Yahoo's games, not retail games like Counter Strike and Unreal Tournament.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/games/play/play-23.html

There is a difference between playing Dominoes on Yahoo and fragging your buddies in Unreal Tournament. GameProwler isn't designed for hardcore gamers, xfire is. GamePrower has a different audience then xfire does, so I believe that Xfire is totally in the green in this case.

[zeroplane]

What is GameSpy?

Hello?
What is Gamespy for 200 Alex?
GameSpy has existed sense the mid-90s does exactly what Yahoo and Xfire claim they "Invented".

http://www.gamespy.com

Here here for longer than yahoo messenger or Xfire.

Leave Xfire be.

That's pretty gay of Yahoo to use it's financial clout to bury poor little xfire. Especially on a gray area patent infringement like this one. Make no mistake, Yahoo knows xfire probably can't afford this lawsuit and their looking to steamroll em. BAD YAHOO! NO TREAT!

Leave xfire alone

I like xfire very much. The guys at xfire did a good job. the program is small, nicely working and stable. It's a nice program to chat in-game with other ppl in your friends list.
Nice solution for a cross platform chat and even usable in-game.

I think yahoo is just jealous that they didn't manage to produce a fine proggy like xfire did... which is big BS tbh.

Logic flaw in the article

The article is unclear. Two key points in it disagree with each other. "Kirmse joined Xfire in August 2003. He had left the employ of Yahoo! some years earlier, according to sources." By that statement, it would mean that Kirmse was no longer working for Yahoo! "some years" before 2003. Yet in the beginning of the article, it states "The patent, ..., was granted to two then-Yahoo! employees Brian Gottlieb and Chris Kirmse on March 2, 2004," which implies that Kirmse was employed with Yahoo! in 2004, which is impossible if he supposedly left Yahoo! years before 2003. So which is true; when did he actually leave Yahoo?

oooookkkk.....

I don't think anyone truely cares about whether the writer of this article made an unclear comment. Get over it, and stop trying to sound smart by using a subject line which talks about logic. Go back to school and learn the meaning of logic. May I recommend a class? Possibly Philosophy of Writing....

Good luck...

RE: Logic flaw

Well, one possible explanation is that it takes a long time to file a patent and get it approved. If one of the originators left *during* that process, they might have been gone for a long time by the time the patent was granted.

Yahoo Gameprowler? It's ASE, All Seeing Eye

The article lists Gameprowler as the infringed application. That may be a material fact, but the case is designed to promote Yahoo's newly acquired All Seeing Eye. ASE suffers from an inferior buddy finding system. ASE message boards have several threads to be more like Xfire. Did ASE and Yahoo make a deal to try to eliminate ASE's competition ("Either we sue both of you or we buy your company and sue them together")? Or is this really a case of fortuitous luck ("We missed this patent infringement prior to purchasing your company, but we think it could be useful . . .")? The patent is pretty flimsy. If Xfire had the money they could prevail. Maybe Google or Microsoft will acquire Xfire and deep pocket them.

You can follow ASE/Yahoo forum thread here http://www.udpsoft.com/forum/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=2631&start=90

[billyzelsnack]

Novel, my ass.

This patent is not valid. It is not novel. It is not innovative. There's even plenty of prior art. Hell, I even have prior art on it. All that won't matter though. XFire will die because they won't be able to defend against it.

The article makes it sound like it's usually the little guys terrorizing the poor undeserving big corporations with their patents. Right. It's more like that old drug commercial.. "I learned it from watching you!"

Your hasty comment

You probably don t know anything about patent laws and patents so please, refrain from hasty and unproductive comments like this one.
Moreover, you cannot make any valid comment by just looking at Yahoo's patent and without having looked at the Xfire one.
The patent infringement lawsuit is just an excuse from Yahoo.

Your hasty comment

You probably don t know anything about patent laws and patents so please, refrain from hasty and unproductive comments like this one.
Moreover, you cannot make any valid comment by just looking at Yahoo's patent and without having looked at the Xfire one.
The patent infringement lawsuit is just an excuse from Yahoo.

[billyzelsnack]

It's the freak'n internet!!

The internet is all about hasty and unproductive comments. Geez.

I was not aware that XFire themselves have their own software patents. I was only commenting on what I read in the article. If they do have their own BS patents then they deserve what's coming to them.

BTW. All comments are "valid" because they are "opinions", shame on you.

Xfire Will Live!

No Matter what happens to Xfire, everyone that uses it will love it even more. I'm sure if Yahoo! wins, Xfire users will despise Yahoo! Why can't Yahoo! play fair? It's all about the best, your supposed compete with you users and such, not with how much money you got and sue them out of their business. Xfire is better than Yahoo! Always was, always will be. If Yahoo! is crying over some tpye of technology that xfire has, thats better, they may aswell cry about every site that has news and a search engine too. This is ridiculous, and everyone who supports Yahoo! I could care less about your opinion.

Deathlord Out!

greed

i'd boycott yahoos crap if i actually used it
just goes to show you, never can be too rich or too powerful
every opportunity that comes up MAKE SURE YOU GRASP IT because it may be your next virgin island property
proud to be an american
now if you'll excuse me, a guy on tv has the same haircut as me, i have to go sue him

[the7thelite]

YAHOO SUCKS

another reason why i "DO NOT YAHOO" they cannot make there own way on the internet they start looking 4 other supposible patents being Infringed. Such Bull Im against all who bashes XFIRE, Im willing to support Xfire allthe way. YAHOO ur dead get offline u POS crapp serach engine in fact everything bout yahoo sucks. I hate it and its BANNED from ANY comp-uter I build. Yeah thats right BANNED, and i build a good 100pcs a year custom, Not 1 will have that POS installed or even allowed to be installed I do and say what I can to END THIS YAHOOO company at all costs. why u might ask I was a origional member of yahoo wayyy back in the day. I had a name i loved, they sold yahoo or whatever happened to it when it began to get span and pops and then my account was killed for inactivety and they gave it away. just like they gave me away to some stranger NOT COOL and then lets get into the pops unreal GO BACK TO SCHOOL Brian Gottlieb and Chris Kirmse and LEARN how to be a REAL assett to the internet not just some POSER like u R. YEAH U KNOW who this is Brian Gottlieb and Chris Kirmse. **** you NOOB and take ur HALO beating. LOL he really is a noob too

[Core]

Monopoly

Well at least we know Yahoo is placing a patent on the "Brain Drain." Lorrie Crawford's comments are retarded, just like this suit; ?novel? what a condescending bit@h. If Yahoo doesn?t drop this lawsuit I'm going to disengage all Yahoo participation. We live in a capitalistic country where competition keeps business from becoming stagnant. Everyone e-mail Yahoo and your local state representative, and tell them you support Xfire. Xfire is a free and effective program that should not become victim to corporate monopolization. Believe it or not, but many of the big AOL?s have plans to start charging users by the minute for their search engines. As if we didn?t pay enough for the web as it is; while the AOL?s profit from the mass influx of data, and advertisement profits. I believe an artist has rights to their work, if the designers used a similar program to one they produced while working for Yahoo, who cares. It would be a different story if the designers stole it. What the hell is the matter with corporate America!

[Core]

Monopoly

Well at least we know Yahoo is placing a patent on the "Brain Drain." Lorrie Crawford's comments are retarded, just like this suit; ?novel? what a condescending bit@h. If Yahoo doesn?t drop this lawsuit I'm going to disengage all Yahoo participation. We live in a capitalistic country where competition keeps business from becoming stagnant. Everyone e-mail Yahoo and your local state representative, and tell them you support Xfire. Xfire is a free and effective program that should not become victim to corporate monopolization. Believe it or not, but many of the big AOL?s have plans to start charging users by the minute for their search engines. As if we didn?t pay enough for the web as it is; while the AOL?s profit from the mass influx of data, and advertisement profits. I believe an artist has rights to their work, if the designers used a similar program to one they produced while working for Yahoo, who cares. It would be a different story if the designers stole it. What the hell is the matter with corporate America!