Comments on: Dell to recall 4 million batteries

Inspiron, Latitude and Precision owners should check to see if they qualify for recall offer.
Photos: Dell's recalled batteries

[kiallan]

Sony Notebook Batteries-Recall

I own a Sony VGN-S460 Notebook. Does anyone know if the battery in my notebook is affected by the recent recall of Sony batteries in Dell computers? I bought my notebook during the period covered by Dell's recall.

[jeckp]

Try This....

Try checking your battery part number against those given on ..
https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/Default.aspx

The site explains where to find the information.

[J.G.]

Sony uses same batteries as Dell

According to the New York Times, exactly the same batteries are
used in Sony's own laptops. BUT, there are no known reports of
those batteries exploding or causing fires in Sony laptops. There
can be differences in how batteries function based on differences in
design of the computer.

However, remain aware of the issue in case the recall of the Dell
batteries, which are actually Sony batteries, expands.

[lkrupp]

More to follow...

Expect Apple and HP to follow with battery recalls. They both use
the same batteries made by Sony.

[DennyInCary]

Hewlett-Packard does not use Sony batteries in its PCs

Why are you taking such a giant leap to put HP and Apple in the same event with Dell?

Nothing has been reported, in fact quite the opposite has been said. Please read on . . .

"Shares of rival Hewlett-Packard Co. spiked 70 cents, or 2.1 percent, to end at $33.99, just below its 52-week high of $34.52. Shares of Gateway Inc. surged 15 cents, or 11.3 percent, to close at $1.48, both on the New York Stock Exchange. Hewlett-Packard does not use Sony batteries in its PCs, and Gateway said it doesn't expect to experience Dell's battery problems".

By BY SHAILA DANI AP Business Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

Let's calm down until all the facts are in. Jeeeeesh!!

[DennyInCary]

Hewlett-Packard does not use Sony batteries in its PCs

Why are you taking such a giant leap to put HP and Apple in the same event with Dell?

Nothing has been reported, in fact quite the opposite has been said. Please read on . . .

"Shares of rival Hewlett-Packard Co. spiked 70 cents, or 2.1 percent, to end at $33.99, just below its 52-week high of $34.52. Shares of Gateway Inc. surged 15 cents, or 11.3 percent, to close at $1.48, both on the New York Stock Exchange. Hewlett-Packard does not use Sony batteries in its PCs, and Gateway said it doesn't expect to experience Dell's battery problems".

By BY SHAILA DANI AP Business Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

Let's calm down until all the facts are in. Jeeeeesh!!

[Mister Winky]

Sony's String of Bad Luck Continues

Let's see now:

1) Widespread problems with WEGA LCD projection TVs
2) PS3 delays
3) DRM/spyware fiasco
4) Walkman Bean failure
5) Connect failure
6) Continued unwillingness to recognize that *nobody* wants overpriced, underperforming Sony proprietary formats (MiniDisc, Memory Stick, UMD, etc.)

And now this? What happened to the creative, quality-oriented Sony I grew up with?!?!

The only great thing to come out of Sony in the last 10 years is SACD and I hope it doesn't die (it's not looking good right now for anyone other than classical music aficianados).

-Mister Winky

[umbrae]

Almighty Dollar...

They have been spending all their time trying to figure out how to soak more money from us, yet still keep up from being able to use their product properly.

[qwerty75]

Bad luck?

Those actions, or lack of, were all deliberate and thought out.

That is not bad luck, that is greed and stupidity catching up on them.

[mc at dell]

Information

For first-hand information on the battery recall, here's a link to the Dell blog and a copy of the Dell news release:

http://www.direct2dell.com/default.aspx


Dell Announces Battery Recall
Instructions On Company?s Web Site Tuesday at 1 A.M. Central Daylight Time

ROUND ROCK, Texas, Aug. 14, 2006?In cooperation with the U. S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and other regulatory agencies worldwide, Dell is today announcing the voluntary recall of approximately 4.1 million Dell-branded lithium-ion batteries with cells manufactured by Sony. Under rare conditions, it is possible for these batteries to overheat, which could cause a risk of fire.
The recalled batteries were sold with the following Dell notebook computers: Dell Latitude? D410, D500, D505, D510, D520, D600, D610, D620, D800, D810; Inspiron? 6000, 8500, 8600, 9100, 9200, 9300, 500m, 510m, 600m, 6400, E1505, 700m, 710m, 9400, E1705; and Dell Precision? M20, M60, M70 and M90 mobile workstations; and XPS?, XPS Gen2, XPS M170 and XPS M1710. The batteries were also sold separately, including in response to service calls. ?Dell? and one of the following are printed on the batteries: ?Made in Japan? or ?Made in China? or ?Battery Cell Made in Japan Assembled in China.? The identification number for each battery appears on a white sticker. Customers should have this number available when they contact Dell to determine if their battery is part of the recall.
Dell sold or provided these batteries with the notebook computers, as part of a service replacement, and as individual units from April 1, 2004, through July 18, 2006. The computers with these batteries sold for between $500 and $2,850 (US) and individual batteries sold for between $60 and $180 (US).
Customers should contact Dell to determine if their notebook computer battery is part of this recall. Please visit the firm?s Web site at www.dellbatteryprogram.com beginning at 1 a.m. Central Daylight Time Aug. 15 or call toll-free at 1-866-342-0011, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Central Time. Customers may continue to use the notebook computers safely by turning the system off, ejecting the battery, and using the AC adapter and power cord to power the system until the replacement battery is received. Customers can also write to: Dell Inc., Attn: Battery Recall, 9701 Metric Blvd., Austin, Texas 78758.
Dell does not expect this recall to have a material adverse effect on its results of operations, financial position or cash flows.

About Dell
Dell Inc. (NASDAQ:DELL - News) listens to customers and delivers innovative technology and services they trust and value. Uniquely enabled by its direct business model, Dell sells more systems globally than any computer company, placing it No. 25 on the Fortune 500. Company revenue for the past four quarters was $56.7 billion. For more information, visit http://www.dell.com. To get Dell news direct, visit http://www.dell.com/RSS.

Special Note

Statements in this press release that relate to future results and events (including statements about Dell?s anticipated financial results) are forward-looking statements based on Dell?s current expectations. Actual results in future periods could differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements because of a number of risks and uncertainties, including: general economic, business and industry conditions; the level and intensity of competition in the technology industry and the pricing pressures that have resulted; local economic and labor conditions, political instability, unexpected regulatory changes, trade protection measures, tax laws and fluctuations in foreign currency exchange rates; the ability to accurately predict product, customer and geographic sales mix; the ability to timely and effectively manage periodic product transitions; reliance on third-party suppliers for product components, including dependence on several single-source supplier relationships; the ability to effectively manage operating costs; the failure to attract and retain qualified personnel; the level of demand for the products and services Dell offers; the ability to manage inventory levels to minimize excess inventory, declining inventory values and obsolescence; and the effect of armed hostilities, terrorism, natural disasters and public health issues on the economy generally, on the level of demand for Dell's products and services and on Dell's ability to manage its supply and delivery logistics in such an environment. Additional discussion of these and other factors affecting Dell?s business and prospects is contained in Dell?s periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

[RBinny]

Need Details and Info, Click Here.

For first-hand information on the battery recall, here's a link to the Dell blog and a copy of the Dell news release:

http://www.direct2dell.com/default.aspx

[Hep Cat]

Sony's been making faulty L-Ion batteries for over 11 years

News.com has a "short" memory. Sony was the designer and
build partner for Apple's PowerBook 5300 battery - the original
one.

Introduced in the fall of 1995, only about 1500 of the units had
shipped when the battery - again, designed and built by Sony -
caught fire in an Apple lab. A separate overheating incident at
Apple later that week caused the company to pull all the stops to
recall, replace, and destroy the Sony L-Ion cells with NiMH
batteries.

Apple's new flagship laptop started life with a misstep because
of Sony - who Apple never explicitly named in the press.

What's Sony's problem? Have they figured L-Ion batteries out in
the past 11 years? Apparently not.

[umbrae]

Sony Quality

A lot of recalls on devices have been related to Sony parts or Products. Their quality has been going downhill for year. I have been fighting for over a year to get my TV. However, the problem is related to a Sony design flaw, so it is seen as "normal" behavior for my model of TV. Appearently, "normal" operation for a Sony TV is a picture so blurry you can only stand to watch it for 30 minutes before you have a headache.

[heystoopid]

Hmm, more bad press for SONY

Hmm, more bad press for SONY, yet again!

Will wonders never cease!, for the PR sails one way on an implausable mission statement, reality is 180 degrees about face!

Thankyou SONY, for demonstrating yet again, as to why one should always avoid purchasing anything with that brand label!

As any cynic would say, why am I not surprised!

[phoinix3]

3 weeks for new battery

I just placed in the Battery Recall order and it will take at least 20 days for them to ship it. and some other battery type takes at least 79 days. never will i buy from Dell again.

[gpmboston]

make that a month

Dell say it is 20 business days. This usually means Mon to Fri, so that could be 28 days total. I tried to buy a spare battery on line for my Inspiron 600m. Delivery was quoted as 5 to 7 WEEKS. A battery to plug into the CD reader slot was quoted as 2 to 7 DAYS. Dell should be sending out whatever they have that will work with your laptop and replacing that when supplies allow.
Just glad I sold my Dell stock 18 months ago.

[clamarai]

LOL... Dell Encourage's Service Renewal's...

Hmmm... Yeah I didnt think it was just a coincidence that 2-3 dell laptops at my job have battery issues. I'll be letting my I.T. Manager know about this first thing this morning.

[drudixon1]

Express Charge at fault

Dell won't admit it, but Dell's Express Charge technology is really at fault. Couple the serious overcharging of the battery with a battery made by the lowest bidder and you get fires! You'll notice Dell is the only company brazen enough to ignore good engineering sense and not over heat, over charge chemicals so users can save a mere hour on charge times. So sad that blatant disregard for public safety is ignored.

[SonicV4]

Does anyone need anymore proof about Sony quality?

Seriously, the string of news to come out of Sony in recent times should be a red flag to everyone: BEWARE OF CHEAP SONY QUALITY.

They are far from the king of electronics as they once were.

[rrothfeldt]

"The King is Dead"

Back in the '80s, when I worked for Panasonic, Sony was the big, bad monster whose quality and innovation drove us nuts-and kept us in the #2 slot among electronics mfrs. Well, Sony is still innovating: creating products nobody wants, and designing others that die horrible deaths.
You thought they would have learned from the American companies they supplanted. Arrogance will get you nowhere. In this industry, nobody cares what you did last year - it's what you're doing tomorrow that counts.

[GrandpaN1947]

Recall all Sony products

Perhaps they tried to put DRM technology into their batteries. Maybe they will work better when the DRM is turned on by Vista when it comes out.

....and here I just bought a Dell laptop thinking how nice it was to screw Sony.

[P. Jackson]

Sony quality (or lack thereof)

Sony adds poor quality to their lamentable customer service record. Way to go!

[leojei]

Dell's problem with handling Sony battery

To me, it seems it's Dell's fault on engineering the way to handle the battery. Many laptop manufacturers use Sony battery with different way (software) to handle the battery under certain circumstances such as charging and emergency stopping. I wonder if that's the reason why only Dell's laptop burns so far.

[davidcplee]

Agree

Ya....there is so many product using sony's battery as well, even sony own products. But, we never have seen issue like this. This may be design or handle issue between Dell and Sony. I think they will find out their solution and other PC brand will not have the same issue. :) Don worry

[D_av1d]

"Dell to recall "4.1" million batteries"

Not that Cnet is biased or anything, but when taking repeated
stabs at Mac computers in the past, they would go into precise
detail.

Example, "Apple to recall 3 million, three hundred and thirty
four thousand, six huntred and twenty one free sample
notepads, and then they'd plaster every page with "3,334,621
free sample notepads being recalled"

So, your title is misleading, it's actually 4."1" million, not 4
million, your off by one hundred thousand, which makes your
title INACCURATE.

sigh.

[technewsjunkie]

Analyst briefed by DELL, not Sony. WHO is at fault??

- If the Dell Executives knew of the problem, how and when did
they know?
- Who briefed them? Sony?
- What is _Sony's_ official response about thier batteries??
- What was the probability that the batteries could become
incendiary??
- Under what conditions?? Is the design of the enclosure a factor?

[Llib Setag]

Recall Dell!

You get what you pay for people.

Recall all Dells, sell the stock & give all the money back to their shareholders & customers...

Cut corners on time, quality & quality & this is what you get...people want a great computer for about 300 dollars, you get what you pay for.

Legacy grey market compoments assembled by underpaid worker drones with lousy customer service...

Ding Dong Dell's Dead.

[john55440]

Dell design, and Dell's Battery Specs.

>For example, Lenovo's notebooks use software that's designed to shut down the battery if it notices a problem and they charge the batteries more slowly than others in the industry,...<

In addition, are Dell's batteries comparable to the competition, or did they order an "extra cheap model" from Sony?

[john55440]

NYT: Dell Lie/Coverup (Link)

From the New York Times:

"Although Dell told the agency that only six incidents had occurred, a reporter viewed almost 100 photos of melted notebooks that were returned to the company between 2002 and 2004.

The photos, from a Dell database, were supplied by a former Dell technician, Robert Day, who said such damage ?was more of a common thing than they are letting on.? As many as several hundred a year were returned. Mr. Day said, ?I did see so many pallets of stuff coming in that they had to use my lab for overflow storage.?

Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/technology/15battery.html?pagewanted=2

[DennyInCary]

And you believe NY Times

How is it you can put any trust in what the NY Times says. Look at all the problems with thier reporting, especially when it comes to pictures. I have a question, do you think that there is more smoke in the Dell pictures or about what one would expect. Maybe they doctored the pictures with PS.

Well.... [food for thought]

[johnqpope]

Rest of the story ...

As a Dell employee, I found it interesting how you chose to excerpt the Times' article. To be fair and balanced, the Times' next paragraph reads as follows:

But David Lear, the director of environmental affairs and product safety at Dell, said most of the damage to those notebooks was unrelated to battery issues. ?Ninety-nine percent of the time they are not safety issues,? he said.

When the final story is written on this issue, it will be apparent that Dell was on top of the situation and acted proactively and responsibly to resolve it.

[technewsjunkie]

It's a "Feature"! ...

Retail sale scenario:
"May I direct you over here to the exploding models"

"It's called the "shuffle". You never know when it will explode."

"This computer has a unique light emitting technology and built in
hibachis for camping trips."

"These Dells over here are experiencing explosive growth."