Comments on: eBay bans auctions of virtual goods

Sales of items from Warcraft and Everquest are now a no-no, but eBay gives the OK for items from Second Life.

[Dr. B]

Double Standard

It's nothing less than that.

[foxlu]

ebay forbid any intangible business now @_@

yeap, same with us, our web www.come4trade.com...we have ebay store , named usbservice, we sell maple story mesos , dofus kamas, etc.....but from last month, all list banned....so now we can only sell it at our website @_@

[play7]

LOLOLOL Second Life.com is in deep ******

This makes me laugh! Looks like people can`t sell their Lindens monies and Islands or property anymore! SOSO typical..Llabs is cutting their way into everyone!

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No, it's the only one that ISN'T

See, Second Life is the only one eBay is allowing to continue doing
it - which is exactly what's wrong with this whole thing.

[Len Bullard]

ValleyWag Reports SL Economy is a Ponsi Scheme

http://valleywag.com/tech/second-life/virtual-worlds-supposed-economy-is-a-pyramid-scheme-230813.php

You may have heard of this as a pyramid scheme. I don?t know how Linden Labs digs out if the pyramid collapses. How does CNet justify supporting that?

eBay may want to rethink their position and ban all virtual goods except those that can actually be taken elsewhere. SL goods have no value off the Linden Labs server because it is a closed system.

We will have to be ready to justify real-time 3D technology in all of its genre from visualization to VR when the LL virtual economy begins to crash. With the Davos group jumping in, the egg splash is likely to be rather large and it will swamp boats tied to their moorings.

[Dragon Forge]

one step forward - 3 backwards

Clearly ebay has shifted into an antiquated version of the twitlight zone. Some are ok but not all.... hmm I have heard more stories about people getting shafted trading in game or on fansites where the exchange is for virtual money. ebay is showing it's inability to not only not understand the issues but to ineffectually administer a fair and reasonable barter system.

eula's are starting to turn out to be systems by which the player is disadvantaged and I have stopped playing such games as guild wars just because of it. If I had been presented with the eula on the outside of the package and how exactly it would be enforced I never would have bought all the accounts I have for my family.

One should be able to make the critical judgement that vendors will modify the game only to fix things instead of nerfing/gelding/destroying the game play by constantly making things/items/gold harder to get. Additionally, and right on the money, is the fact that if I invest my time in the acquisition of any items, this effort and resources I exercised is exclusively my own and can not be claimed by the vendor. Let us use this addle-brained move by ebay to bring into question the rights of the players.

What may be more likely is the pressure exerted by publishers/developers to squeeze themselves into this lucrative market.

These games no longer provide any entertainment.

[kdbaumann]

Sony for one allows auctions... sorta

Ok sorta. They only allow them on their site, using their system, where they control all of the action and the profit. :-) Have to hand it to them tho for doing something rather than just banning people, sueing, etc...

[sykobronco]

Error in ARTICLE

Bad journalism--- Get the title of Julians's book right:

Play Money: Or, How I quit my Day Job And made millions trading virtual loot

NEWB!!

[archd3]

not exactly

review the listing for the book on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Play-Money-Millions-Trading-Virtual/dp/0465015352/sr=8-1/qid=1170260788/ref=sr_1_1/002-8060726-9575203?ie=UTF8&s=books

The Amazon item is titled the way you have said, but the snapshot of the cover clearly agrees with the way it is referenced in this article.

[kdbaumann]

IGE NOT most definately NOT the leader

Ok so I think that IGE got a good plug here, but there are hundreds of sites out there that do the samething. They don't have a lock.

As for auctions, www.playerauctions.com allows the individual to sell and not have to sell to a middle man who profits hugely.

So the author of this article really didn't do their homework which is sad because now folks will that that there isn't any other choice.

[eisenwyrm]

eBay ban on online items

"I assume you have seen this, ebay has banned the sale of online game items.
this is an email i have copied and have been sending it to all former ebay sellers
I wrote this myself:
'I am glad you sent this email, as i was unaware of this happing. I havent been a customer of your for a long time, glad you remembered.
I myself was starting my on virtual business, and I find this appalling. I hope someone with the money for a lawyer takes this on.
We are NOT selling virtual items - we are selling the service for acquiring these items.
This is no different than being a currier service for the elderly, in which you go out and by groceries and receive payment for such. It is not retail, its a service for those who cannot or will not acquire these things for themselves!
Please, I know you own your own site but this is a step to ending the virtual game item market which is the future of the virtual gaming world. We are not selling firearms, alcohol, nor tobacco. We are selling ourselves and our time, nothing more.
Please fight this with all you have, if you cant in court at least pass this on, maybe someone out does have the means.
We are not infringing on any copyrights nor trademarks. This is an attack on our rights as a business. If we were breaking the law it be different.
The life of games like Ultima Online thrive on the ongoing accounts that are sold and reused. Players want to pay someone else to spend the time acquiring things for them so they may play and enjoy the game with no hassle of wasting time on item farming.
We are a service not a retail outlet.'

thank you for your time

ps: if this is a concern for you than maybe we can as a group appeal this ban, competitors and friends alike, we must stand against this. ebay is just the beginning, korea has started passin laws against all sales of virtual items."

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agree, at least come4trade.com is the best seller for maple story mesos lol

agree ige not the leader ><

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