Comments on: An inside look at Windows Vista

CNET's GameSpot takes an in-depth look at the new operating system from the perspective of a hard-core PC gamer.
Screenshots: Vista's got game

[booboo1243]

MS should stick to games only with (Asta-la) Vista

At least then the poor quality of MS products won't kill people, harm busineeses, etc. in mission critical applications?

Does anyone want to be having a heart attack, only to find the MS powered heart monitor is being rebooted...give it a minute...

No Mr Jones, you can't withdrawl money from your account while the main systems are down with today's MS virus...

[J_Satch]

And NASA...

...needs to release the sound stage footage of the moon landings!

[Christopher Hall]

Don't feed the trolls, kids

Do all you anti-MS (that's the same as "M$" if you don't recognize it) ever get any new material or are you just going to keep spouting the same tired (and entirely irrelevant, for that matter) arguments until you're blue in the face?

You're angry. We get it.

[booboo1243]

MS should stick to games only with (Asta-la) Vista

At least then the poor quality of MS products won't kill people, harm busineeses, etc. in mission critical applications?

Does anyone want to be having a heart attack, only to find the MS powered heart monitor is being rebooted...give it a minute...

No Mr Jones, you can't withdrawl money from your account while the main systems are down with today's MS virus...

[J_Satch]

And NASA...

...needs to release the sound stage footage of the moon landings!

[Christopher Hall]

Don't feed the trolls, kids

Do all you anti-MS (that's the same as "M$" if you don't recognize it) ever get any new material or are you just going to keep spouting the same tired (and entirely irrelevant, for that matter) arguments until you're blue in the face?

You're angry. We get it.

[Mori-neko]

No thanks!

Not looking forward to Vista in any way. I read this article because
it mentioned that it would talk about Vista in relation to heavy
gaming, but it seemed more like a paid article from M$. It didn't
mention at -all- the fact that having DirectX as a primary backbone
for the system is going to further decrease the usage of OGL,
making it harder and less cost effective for any devs to try to write
for OSX at the same time. I think I'll keep my XP box.... I'd go back
to 2k if I could.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

It'll be some time before you see a game

that uses DirectX10. There's a simple reason for that, since DX10 won't be ported back to XP any game written to use DX10 automatically cuts off that portion of the market. Only when Vista and it's successors have a sizable portion of the market will DX10 games show up in anything other than "demonstrators" from MS.

[Mori-neko]

No thanks!

Not looking forward to Vista in any way. I read this article because
it mentioned that it would talk about Vista in relation to heavy
gaming, but it seemed more like a paid article from M$. It didn't
mention at -all- the fact that having DirectX as a primary backbone
for the system is going to further decrease the usage of OGL,
making it harder and less cost effective for any devs to try to write
for OSX at the same time. I think I'll keep my XP box.... I'd go back
to 2k if I could.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

It'll be some time before you see a game

that uses DirectX10. There's a simple reason for that, since DX10 won't be ported back to XP any game written to use DX10 automatically cuts off that portion of the market. Only when Vista and it's successors have a sizable portion of the market will DX10 games show up in anything other than "demonstrators" from MS.

[MaxRock17]

Nifty Visual Features

... are pretty much the first thing to turn off after a fresh install of WinXP, aren't they?
Sure it looks neat the first couple of times but gets old rather fast.
In my opinion they should spent less time working on those visual effects but instead on Windows Vista SP1

[MaxRock17]

Nifty Visual Features

... are pretty much the first thing to turn off after a fresh install of WinXP, aren't they?
Sure it looks neat the first couple of times but gets old rather fast.
In my opinion they should spent less time working on those visual effects but instead on Windows Vista SP1

[bigjtk]

Has Windows Bought into Strong DRM

I have been told Vista has very strong DRM. DRM is a problem for my clients now and I cannot recomend a switch fron XP pro if Microsoft has bought into these Hollywood intervention's into fair use of copywrited materals. Microsoft has been very coy on this subject. DRM can make a computer very user unfriendly. My clients are leaning to open source. I think Microsoft will have a hard sell if the DRM restrictions are strong.

[Heebee Jeebies]

This is one area...

That I am worried about as well. I am afraid that Vista is going to be a Police OS and try to arrest anything it deames in appropriate.

I don't know, if it is heavy handed like I am sure Hollywood and the Recording Industry would like it may be a junk OS right out of the gate.

Time will tell. I also like that the article noted that it was supposed to ship at the end of the year when everything else they have done said middle of 2006. It seems things keep slipping. I just don't understand why 6 years wasn't enough to get it out on time and with ALL of the features Microsoft promised.

Robert

[Frogfart]

DRM is anti-consumer.

DRM is there to limit and restict the general public. It has no function that consumers want but yet we have to pay added on costs for its inclusion in the products that use it. MS must feel embarrassed by its inclusion in Vista. MS realise that DRM does not sell any type of product and that is why they don't want to highlight the DRM limitations of Vista

[bigjtk]

Has Windows Bought into Strong DRM

I have been told Vista has very strong DRM. DRM is a problem for my clients now and I cannot recomend a switch fron XP pro if Microsoft has bought into these Hollywood intervention's into fair use of copywrited materals. Microsoft has been very coy on this subject. DRM can make a computer very user unfriendly. My clients are leaning to open source. I think Microsoft will have a hard sell if the DRM restrictions are strong.

[Heebee Jeebies]

This is one area...

That I am worried about as well. I am afraid that Vista is going to be a Police OS and try to arrest anything it deames in appropriate.

I don't know, if it is heavy handed like I am sure Hollywood and the Recording Industry would like it may be a junk OS right out of the gate.

Time will tell. I also like that the article noted that it was supposed to ship at the end of the year when everything else they have done said middle of 2006. It seems things keep slipping. I just don't understand why 6 years wasn't enough to get it out on time and with ALL of the features Microsoft promised.

Robert

[Frogfart]

DRM is anti-consumer.

DRM is there to limit and restict the general public. It has no function that consumers want but yet we have to pay added on costs for its inclusion in the products that use it. MS must feel embarrassed by its inclusion in Vista. MS realise that DRM does not sell any type of product and that is why they don't want to highlight the DRM limitations of Vista

[open-mind]

Love the features of VISTA

These features have been working great on my $500 Mac Mini for six months now. And I didn't even need to purchase a $400 video card to make them work great. VISTA is going to be awesome.

[sokorie]

I agree......

Stay put with your Mac-Mini and OSX, until you can aford a REAL operating system like VISTA...., then you can switch over and start enjoying what millions of XP users are looking forward to ...:)

[open-mind]

Love the features of VISTA

These features have been working great on my $500 Mac Mini for six months now. And I didn't even need to purchase a $400 video card to make them work great. VISTA is going to be awesome.

[sokorie]

I agree......

Stay put with your Mac-Mini and OSX, until you can aford a REAL operating system like VISTA...., then you can switch over and start enjoying what millions of XP users are looking forward to ...:)

[bobby_brady]

No mention of all the new DRM

Will I be able to watch DVD's? Will I be able to copy a DVD? Will I be able to play or copy MP3's?

[theoscnet]

Not if

you buy the home version ya wont....heheheh

[bobby_brady]

No mention of all the new DRM

Will I be able to watch DVD's? Will I be able to copy a DVD? Will I be able to play or copy MP3's?

[theoscnet]

Not if

you buy the home version ya wont....heheheh

[vixenk]

My concerns...

I'm not completely anti Vista. I'm not even completely anti Microsoft for that matter. But I do have legitimate questions about Vista that have yet to be answered by any of the numerous articles I've read about it.

How bad is the DRM in this OS going to be? I know this has been asked in previous comments, but I'm just as curious to know, and it seems like all these articles about it either completely skip the issue or dodge around it. What about the obvious *and not so obvious* problems I see possibly arising from Vista's "security" features? Again, all the articles I've read about Vista glorify and detail the security of it, without even beginning to explore the ways it could be compromised. How about those of us that DON'T want our OS to use much of our system resources? This article mentioned that with the Aero theme turned off, the OS didn't seem as snappy - which gives me reason to suspect that the Aero theme never gets turned off, just skinned over. What about system stability? I'm sure I'm not the only one to experience an application crashing in XP only to take the entire system down with it, requiring a cold shut down.

So I'm just going to wait and see what the users have to say about it when Vista comes out, the hype has died down, and the nasties have had their time to play.

[vixenk]

My concerns...

I'm not completely anti Vista. I'm not even completely anti Microsoft for that matter. But I do have legitimate questions about Vista that have yet to be answered by any of the numerous articles I've read about it.

How bad is the DRM in this OS going to be? I know this has been asked in previous comments, but I'm just as curious to know, and it seems like all these articles about it either completely skip the issue or dodge around it. What about the obvious *and not so obvious* problems I see possibly arising from Vista's "security" features? Again, all the articles I've read about Vista glorify and detail the security of it, without even beginning to explore the ways it could be compromised. How about those of us that DON'T want our OS to use much of our system resources? This article mentioned that with the Aero theme turned off, the OS didn't seem as snappy - which gives me reason to suspect that the Aero theme never gets turned off, just skinned over. What about system stability? I'm sure I'm not the only one to experience an application crashing in XP only to take the entire system down with it, requiring a cold shut down.

So I'm just going to wait and see what the users have to say about it when Vista comes out, the hype has died down, and the nasties have had their time to play.

Ever used a mac?

If you have, you would know that 98% of these features have been
avaliable for a few years now, without all of the security headaches
in OS X. How can you write a story like this and not put it into the
context of other operating systems?

[Heebee Jeebies]

I wish...

You Mac people has saying Mac has had this or Mac has had that. When will you learn that we Windows users don't give a flying snowballs worth of spit what your Mac has or doesn't have.

Just so you know Apple is just as bad a monopoly as Microsoft. The difference is Apple doesn't have enough users for the government to fool with. You can only buy Mac's from Apple. They are constantly comeing out with programs that cause other companies to stop developing similar ones (Adobe is one such company). iTunes only works on iPods. So can the bull we don't give a flying flip.

Robert

[olegnep]

yeah

i agree , the mac does all vista does and more and has done it
for a long time ,



g4 dualcore will finally give a comparison (with bootcamp) and
show this hopefully


rok on mac

Ever used a mac?

If you have, you would know that 98% of these features have been
avaliable for a few years now, without all of the security headaches
in OS X. How can you write a story like this and not put it into the
context of other operating systems?

[Heebee Jeebies]

I wish...

You Mac people has saying Mac has had this or Mac has had that. When will you learn that we Windows users don't give a flying snowballs worth of spit what your Mac has or doesn't have.

Just so you know Apple is just as bad a monopoly as Microsoft. The difference is Apple doesn't have enough users for the government to fool with. You can only buy Mac's from Apple. They are constantly comeing out with programs that cause other companies to stop developing similar ones (Adobe is one such company). iTunes only works on iPods. So can the bull we don't give a flying flip.

Robert

[olegnep]

yeah

i agree , the mac does all vista does and more and has done it
for a long time ,



g4 dualcore will finally give a comparison (with bootcamp) and
show this hopefully


rok on mac

[theoscnet]

Hillarious

Wow, you need a kick-butt graphics card just to run Vista in it's normal setting?!?!? Awesome job MS!! I still have my 300MHz Mac running OS X without a fancy graphics card. I love it!! I think it's funny that in order for PeeCs to run properly you have to turn off all the eye candy or just simply UPGRADE. I think the only thing interesting in their "new" look is the 3D roladex windowing thing.

[theoscnet]

Hillarious

Wow, you need a kick-butt graphics card just to run Vista in it's normal setting?!?!? Awesome job MS!! I still have my 300MHz Mac running OS X without a fancy graphics card. I love it!! I think it's funny that in order for PeeCs to run properly you have to turn off all the eye candy or just simply UPGRADE. I think the only thing interesting in their "new" look is the 3D roladex windowing thing.

[georgegliddy]

Yes we've all used Macs, and we know they suck

Which is why the Aero interface is a piece of s--t. Just designed for morons who want "style" over functionality.

[olegnep]

? functionality ?

if by " functionality" you mean viruses

oh and if "the Aero interface is a piece of s--t" then why is vista
trying to copy it

hmmmmmm

[georgegliddy]

Yes we've all used Macs, and we know they suck

Which is why the Aero interface is a piece of s--t. Just designed for morons who want "style" over functionality.

[olegnep]

? functionality ?

if by " functionality" you mean viruses

oh and if "the Aero interface is a piece of s--t" then why is vista
trying to copy it

hmmmmmm