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Comments on: Mac Mini offer quickly dropped

Less than 12 hours after the promotion was launched, Apple pulls 30-day trial offer for the Mac Mini. Speculation as to why abounds.

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I wonder...
by September 1, 2005 7:13 AM PDT
...what would happen to market share numbers if you exclude
ATMs, cash registers, and corporate clones...and only look at the
personal computing market/installed base. Just curious.

Somebody is going to get whipped for this one.... either they
released it too early, it was not officially approved, too much
demand.... either way... someone is going to get "Steve'd".
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Or
by catchall September 1, 2005 8:42 AM PDT
demand has simply stalled, and there just would not be enough interest to drive the progarm.
Or Apple is less then confident that having used the machine for a month, anyone would buy.
Your right though, someone will get "Steve'd".

As far as home use, I seem to be the computer go to guy for family, friends, their families, their friends, their friends friends (I'll get even with them someday), and I still only see a 3-4% home use of the Mac. And no, people are not 'forced' into using Windows. It is what they are familiar with, and tend to stick with.
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Learn Apple's History Before Commenting
by shadowself September 1, 2005 8:46 AM PDT
Roger Kay is either an idiot or does not know Apple at all. Either way he should not be commenting on why Apple does things. It seems what he is saying is 100% speculation and not based on any facts or even Apple history.

Apple has done this type of promotion many times over the last 20+ years. Apple was doing this type of promotion even when it was the #1 desktop computer maker with a 19% market share ('89/'90 era). Often their reasons for doing this type of promotion has had nothing to do with market share or how well the item is selling. It has had to do with Apple being Apple.

There is no reason to believe Apple did this promotion because the Mac Mini was selling more poorly than Apple had hoped. Maybe Apple just wanted to go more agressively after the "back to school" croud. (How many people would buy a Mac Mini, take it off to college and then return it a month later? Few would return them after using them for a month because they would have to convert to a whole new system after they had gotten well into their classes.)

As many have suggested, maybe this promotion went much too well for Apple, and they found themselves with an instant backlog of orders for Mac Minis. Why have a "30 day" kind of promotion if the people ordering them can't get them for 45 or 60 days?

And... The media have routinely beaten up Apple for having huge backlogs of orders which are not fulfilled for several weeks. (Sometimes the bludgeoning of Apple has been warranted, sometimes not.) Maybe Apple decided it did not need that kind of bad publicity and decided to pull the promotion.

The other extreme is that the promotion was an idea still being considered but not fully authorized. Someone made a serious error by posting it. Apple took several hours to pull it because it was an option to still go with it, but in the end they decided to pull it. In this scenario it was a significant marketing error and the persons involved have definitely been "Steve'd".

We may never know the real reasons for the promotion nor the reasons for it being pulled. IF the Wall Street analysts on the quarterly report conference call badger Apple about it Apple may tell all. I doubt it.
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"Steve'd"
by September 1, 2005 9:06 AM PDT
Whomever got "Steve'd" left a little tracery on their website. I just
visited it and the 'test drive' offer is still indicated, without any
option of actually taking one once you click the link.

Anyone think someone else will get "Jobbed" for this oversight?

C'mawn!
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Or what will they do
by indrakanti September 1, 2005 3:14 PM PDT
Or what will they dowith thousands of returned Mac Minis. I am
glad it din't take Apple more than 12 hrs to realize this.

Seriously, whom are they kidding? The PowerPC G4 processor
plain sucks. I have an iBook G4 (my wife has a Powerbook G4)
and I also have Compaq laptop with AMD-64 Turion. G4
processor performance is abysmal. Believe me even iTunes runs
10 times faster on my Windows computer. Even graphics and
games are faster on PC laptop though it has integrated graphics.

My advice, is don't get a Mac mini with G4, slow memory, bus
speed (167 MHz...) and hard drive (not to mention the lack
monitor, keyboard or Mous). If you are really inclined to buy a
Mac, wait until apple releases Intel computers. May be then
programs will run faster.
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Oh really?
by DeusExMachina September 1, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
Or what will they dowith thousands of returned Mac Minis. I am
glad it din't take Apple more than 12 hrs to realize this.

>> Seriously, whom are they kidding? The PowerPC G4
processor plain sucks. I have an iBook G4 (my wife has a
Powerbook G4) and I also have Compaq laptop with AMD-64
Turion. G4 processor performance is abysmal.

Is that so? Weird, I am writing this on a 500 MHz G4, which I
often use for DVD encoding and video format conversion. I have
few problems running other apps as well, at adequate speed.

>>Believe me even iTunes runs 10 times faster on my Windows
computer. Even graphics and games are faster on PC laptop
though it has integrated graphics.

If this is true, and I doubt it, you have some serious issues you
need to fix. 10 times? Bull.
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Get an iMac
by Ben Begg September 1, 2005 4:04 PM PDT
I think people have already realised that buying a G5 iMac is so much a better buy. Sure the Mac Mini is cheap but you still have to buy a screen and also the iMac is just so much faster running OSX.
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iMac... evern worse
by indrakanti September 1, 2005 4:17 PM PDT
If the LCD dies you have throw your beatiful iMac. If this happens
during warraty period it is OK. Otherwise don't even think of
sending your computer to apple for service. Even third party repair
services are not cheap for Mac's, take it from me.
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It's so funny... Apple is sure you won't like it
by lingsun September 2, 2005 6:43 PM PDT
It's so funny... Apple is sure you won't like it that they cancelled the offer! LOL!!
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I Will Use a Mac Mini...
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:56 PM PDT
...If Apple is willing to give me one for free. After all that piece of $hit is not worth a penny :)
Low powered, entry level, just like a Dell at $799
by educateme September 3, 2005 4:11 PM PDT
THe Mini is the shot Apple chose to make to those PC shoppers
that saw a Dell or Gateway ad for a $299-$999 PC. The Mini
gives fair performance and lets you pick the screen, keyboard
and mouse, or transfer them from an slightly older PC that
might have these available. I sell "only as much" computer as
some need, is the real goal of the Mini. To expect it to run
circles around a P4 is out of the question. The iMac G5 give the
P4 a closer run on speed, and the All-in-One box gives your
"home, cublicle" workspace room to shuffle the usual papers
around. The same design is in the Gateway Profile or those
units from MPC.

I think the Mini is a hit for the ones it was made for, that it isnt a
full blown Mac, is merely about speed. There is not much it cant
do with a few Firewire, USB and Wifi connections, encoding,
decoding, and avoiding uddate hassles, these are all the best
measure of performance, in that case Apple's features and
pricing, make the Mini a better buy than a Windows low cost PC.
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It's simple, it scratches too easy.
by seespottype September 26, 2005 3:11 PM PDT
Apple can't afford to let people see how delicate the product's finish and lcd screen is. People would return them in droves, and these things can't be resold.
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They are Switching to INTEL!!!!
by September 29, 2005 8:05 AM PDT
Jeesh, it does'nt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Who would'nt wait for the Intel based machine, not only for the faster machine, but the chance to buy a computer that wont become immediately out of date, as you could potentially run both Mac OS and Windows, having the best of both worlds.....
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