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Computers are part of new line aimed at students. All come loaded with the Windows XP Media Center operating system.

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Buying a laptop.
by System Tyrant June 30, 2005 9:01 AM PDT
I see three problems here.

First it's made by Gateway. :)

Second, it's using a Pentium 4 or Pentium D processor instead of a Pentium M (and yes I know the Pentium M's aren't 64-bit or dual core).

Third, it's going to be extreamly hot and power hungry. I guessing that it's not going to be an ideal notebook unless your are looking more for a desktop replacement.
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Laptops? Who's talking about laptops?
by 202578300049013666264380294439 June 30, 2005 10:34 AM PDT
The story starts right off by saying these new systems are Desktop systems. Strange how you missed that.
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Buying a laptop.
by System Tyrant June 30, 2005 9:01 AM PDT
I see three problems here.

First it's made by Gateway. :)

Second, it's using a Pentium 4 or Pentium D processor instead of a Pentium M (and yes I know the Pentium M's aren't 64-bit or dual core).

Third, it's going to be extreamly hot and power hungry. I guessing that it's not going to be an ideal notebook unless your are looking more for a desktop replacement.
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Laptops? Who's talking about laptops?
by 202578300049013666264380294439 June 30, 2005 10:34 AM PDT
The story starts right off by saying these new systems are Desktop systems. Strange how you missed that.
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Why Media Center?!?
by David Arbogast June 30, 2005 1:17 PM PDT
Why advertise a 64-bit PC when it comes with a 32-bit operating system preinstalled? Anybody know the 64-bit MediaCenter release plan yet?

Advertising these technologies side-by-side is a bit like saying... "We'll charge you for it, but you can't use it!"
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But on the other hand...
by Juster444 July 2, 2005 7:45 PM PDT
If buying a computer now, why not invest in 64-bit processor and upgrade to 64-bit OS when it becomes available in 2006? The dual core alone should help in running multiple applications on the Media Center, as I suspect a student often would.

Typical students are masters of multi-tasking. Such as researching on the internet and typing those term papers while waiting for the dvd burner to finish burning, all the while listening to iTunes and keeping IM and email running, not to mention the possibility of Media Center recording their favorite TV shows while all this is going on. Dual core will be a big hit with these students who constantly put a mighty strain on their processors.
Why Media Center?!?
by David Arbogast June 30, 2005 1:17 PM PDT
Why advertise a 64-bit PC when it comes with a 32-bit operating system preinstalled? Anybody know the 64-bit MediaCenter release plan yet?

Advertising these technologies side-by-side is a bit like saying... "We'll charge you for it, but you can't use it!"
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But on the other hand...
by Juster444 July 2, 2005 7:45 PM PDT
If buying a computer now, why not invest in 64-bit processor and upgrade to 64-bit OS when it becomes available in 2006? The dual core alone should help in running multiple applications on the Media Center, as I suspect a student often would.

Typical students are masters of multi-tasking. Such as researching on the internet and typing those term papers while waiting for the dvd burner to finish burning, all the while listening to iTunes and keeping IM and email running, not to mention the possibility of Media Center recording their favorite TV shows while all this is going on. Dual core will be a big hit with these students who constantly put a mighty strain on their processors.
All in one media center for students
by June 30, 2005 6:41 PM PDT
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Gateway said the machines were designed with students in mind.
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But your right, why advertise a 64 bit system that only comes with a 32 bit OS?

Marketing departments are going to have a hey day with the 64 bit buzzword even though the average user won't benefit from it.

Hmmm... 64 bits must be twice as fast as 32, right? LOL!
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All in one media center for students
by June 30, 2005 6:41 PM PDT
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Gateway said the machines were designed with students in mind.
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But your right, why advertise a 64 bit system that only comes with a 32 bit OS?

Marketing departments are going to have a hey day with the 64 bit buzzword even though the average user won't benefit from it.

Hmmm... 64 bits must be twice as fast as 32, right? LOL!
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840GM vs. 835GM
by mmeytin July 1, 2005 1:16 PM PDT
Actually, according to Gateway's news release, 835GM will also use BTX case. I have been a Gateway 700GR user since last fall, and I have to say that BTX case is very nice - this is the quietest PC I have ever used (and no water cooling involved).

So, it appears that the only difference between 840GM and 835GM is inclusion of a remote and TV tuner with 840GM, and faster processor (3.0GHz vs. 2.8GHz plus Enhanced SpeedStep). I wonder if the difference is worth extra $200.

-M-
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Why use a intel
by July 2, 2005 8:06 PM PDT
Intels dual core processor isnt as fast at anything compared to its single core proccessor according to benchmarks. While AMD X2 is blowing them off the board both dual core and single core. I could care less intel or AMD but i want the best bang for the buck wich right now stands with AMD by far.
Anyways just my two cents who cares right lol
840GM vs. 835GM
by mmeytin July 1, 2005 1:16 PM PDT
Actually, according to Gateway's news release, 835GM will also use BTX case. I have been a Gateway 700GR user since last fall, and I have to say that BTX case is very nice - this is the quietest PC I have ever used (and no water cooling involved).

So, it appears that the only difference between 840GM and 835GM is inclusion of a remote and TV tuner with 840GM, and faster processor (3.0GHz vs. 2.8GHz plus Enhanced SpeedStep). I wonder if the difference is worth extra $200.

-M-
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Why use a intel
by July 2, 2005 8:06 PM PDT
Intels dual core processor isnt as fast at anything compared to its single core proccessor according to benchmarks. While AMD X2 is blowing them off the board both dual core and single core. I could care less intel or AMD but i want the best bang for the buck wich right now stands with AMD by far.
Anyways just my two cents who cares right lol
Poor journalism!
by Tank252ca July 4, 2005 7:41 AM PDT
Quoted from Digital Dispatch, July 1, 2005:
"The three systems all feature 250GB hard drives and multiformat DVD burners, and Gateway says they're meant to be extremely media-friendly for today's students. So, is this a "speaking of digital piracy" story or not? Hard to tell... "

This is an incredibly cheap shot at Gateway. I don't recall ever reading a product announcement before where a journalist implied that a hardware vendor was promoting piracy. I've been a subscriber to C|net for many years but this sort of yellow journalism boils my blood. You should be ashamed of using such cheap headline grabbing tactics. Dinesh Sharma didn't make such comments in the review, so please keep it out of the Digital Dispatch.
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Poor journalism!
by Tank252ca July 4, 2005 7:41 AM PDT
Quoted from Digital Dispatch, July 1, 2005:
"The three systems all feature 250GB hard drives and multiformat DVD burners, and Gateway says they're meant to be extremely media-friendly for today's students. So, is this a "speaking of digital piracy" story or not? Hard to tell... "

This is an incredibly cheap shot at Gateway. I don't recall ever reading a product announcement before where a journalist implied that a hardware vendor was promoting piracy. I've been a subscriber to C|net for many years but this sort of yellow journalism boils my blood. You should be ashamed of using such cheap headline grabbing tactics. Dinesh Sharma didn't make such comments in the review, so please keep it out of the Digital Dispatch.
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