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The company continues to win market share and turn out record quarterly profits, but two recent surveys show that it's slipped when it comes to a more subjective measurement: customer service.
The company continues to win market share and turn out record quarterly profits, but two recent surveys show that it's slipped when it comes to a more subjective measurement: customer service.
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Since this was a new system and getting the Router and Network to work was difficult, it took me a little time to discover the errors in ordering. However, contacting Customer Care was terrible. The phone tree is cumbersome and I called about 15 times over 3 days each time the wait was at least 10 minutes and often more. When disconnected (twice) there was no callback, and when we tried to conference with technical services, customer care always dropped out and I was left to talk with technical when the problem was simply replacing the devices. Returning me with "Customer Care" of course was to put me through the tree instead of directly with a representative.
The issue with the router was resolved easily although I have yet to receive credit but they will not take back the CD burner since it was the original order. The instead sold me a DVD burner that would add to my system since there were three slots. However, when I tried to add this, it became apparent that the third slot was only for another hard drive and that to install the DVD burner, I'd have to take out the CD burner. Sales sold me a DVD burner which was the "best they had" but it won't burn or read the Double Layer discs that Dell sold me. The salesperson had given me a "discount" but it turns out that I need to take out the CD burner and replace it with the DVD burner. The amount advertised to upgrade from the CD burner to the product I was sold is $20 and my discounted price was $100. Bringing this to Customer Care, I was told all they were willing to do is buy yet another burner and that I will not be able to return the orginal CD burner although it was an obvious mistake by the salesperson.
The staff at "Customer Care" have obviously been trained to say that they will do everything to help resolve the issues, but the bottom line is that they do not know the products they sell, and do not know enough technical details to be able to assure that decisions and recommendations they make are appropriate for the system. After I became distrustful of what they offered I wanted to see for myself the products on-line. The products that they tried to sell me are not on their web-site, they cannot provide me with the maker or model of the products so I could do some research on my own.
Dell does not appear to stand by their products and the sales and customer care appear to be so separated from the technical aspects that they give bad recommendations and when they are wrong, they do the minimum to make things right. Obviously, they have done nothing illegal, but I would have hoped that when sales and support does not understand the different products that when mistakes occur the company makes minimal allowances to correct and satisfy the customer.
I must pay interest on a computer loan that was marketed as 0% interest. I have excellent credit and credit history by the way.
I will not buy from Dell ever again.
Its been ten months since I've had the Inspiron 700m...A tiny little overly expensive plastic feeling thing. Its a top of the line you know..so top that its the first to breakdown. Yes. My computer has broken down. I got this blue error screen one day when I tried to turn it on. I contacted Dell via internet and after an hour of the shortest conversation ever, they decided to send me some recovery cd's...Oh I forgot to add...they suggested that I use the original recovery cd's but guess what?? those CD's were incompatible with the product key on my computer. Nice again guys! So they send me some that are compatible but the problem still isn't solved. Back the dell chat I go...they say to replace the hard drive with the one they were going to send me. How long will that take? 2 to 3 business days! hahaha yeah right...that's what they said but that's not what happened...try 4 to 5 biz days. The new hard drive doesn't work. I ask them...Can you guys just send me a computer that works. Geez! They say no they cannot...but they can send a technician. When will he come? 2 to 3 biz days. HAHA try five again! So he comes today with a brand new motherboard. Everybody say Ooooo! He takes the computer apart...installs the new motherboard with new hard drive and leaves. He says to install the recovery software and everything should work. I do this...and guess what now! My wireless is gone. GONE GONE GONE! The blasted thing is gone. Thanks again dell. So what do I have to do now? Wait 2 to 3 biz days aka 5 biz days for my wireless card that so easy to install wireless card. I doubt this will be the end of my problems. My warranty...the doc that supposed to cover everything...don't expire for two more years. YAY! So that means right after the expiration it will be time to get a new laptop. But not from Dell. Never again will I buy from Dell. Oh and Dell, why is it that I must return that which I bought. I have to now go call DHL and tell them to pick up a package to return back to you with all my supposed lost information. And I HAVE to do it within 5 to 10 business days or else I get penalized. What about u Mr Dell and sending my packages months and weeks after their expected arrival date? Why is it that u can violate ur contract agreement of delievery but I cannot? Huh? Bet you can't answer that can u?
Surely this abysmal service must catch up with Dell sooner or later.
i don't recommend Dell because of the shipping. Why pay for something when they can't deliver?
day it was shipping that I had called and canceled the order.
When I called, the person insisted I had canceled it, even though
I had not. After several calls, I was told that there was an error
on the order, but no one could tell me what it was (or how to
avoid it in the future). I was also told that the order was
returned to the warehouse, so processing would begin again. I
canceled the order and returned a printer cartridge I had already
received. The mailman picked up the package Dell's UPS person
came. I never received a credit for it, and Dell insisted they were
unable to try to locate the package ... despite the fact that the
package was sent to the correct address (per their label) and had
the original packing slip enclosed.
I'm happily typing this on my Mac ... and will never deal with Dell
again.
This is almost the price of a new system.
Than I request to supply me only the screen, I have ebnough knowledge to repair it myself.
In Europ a lapptop screen IS NOT AVAILABLE as a spair part.
The are doining unfair trade, I will sent them a letter and they are violating the belgium and European Trade-lawas. i will sue them and they will end up the same way as microsoft, paying huge fine because they are not fair.
I hope somone can help me finding this spare part (- 15.4 inch WUXGA Lcd-panel)
When it was time to upgrade my home computer, my first thought was to consider Dell for my systems and software solutions. As a first time Dell customer I placed my order online on September 7.
?On September 7 2005 I placed an order for a DEMENSION XPS GEN 5 computer and flat panel monitor via Dell?s website.
?On September 8 I received an email from Dell confirming my order along with the 3-5 day delivery date.
?On September 15, I received an email indicating that my order was shipped on the 14th and that it would take 3-5 days for delivery. Since I was leaving for vacation on the 21st, I assumed that I would receive my order in time prior to my departure.
?On the morning of the 20th, I called the customer support number to obtain a tracking number and to find out the status of my shipment. The person I spoke with provided a tracking number and they indicated that my shipment should be delivered by noon time that day. They also confirmed my email address and indicated that they would send a survey to track the quality of the call; I never received such email.
By mid-afternoon I had not received my shipment and I was unable to obtain any status form Fedex with the tracking number provided to me. I called the customer support number again and the person I spoke with was also unable to locate my shipment with the tracking number. They indicated that the shipment most likely had not left the shipping department, although a tracking number was issued. The person indicated that they would look into the matter and that they would call me back. I never received a call from that person.
That evening I called the customer support number again and tried to explain my situation. Since I was leaving for vacation the next day and no one would be home to receive the shipment, I was trying to prevent a delivery while I was gone. Again, as I understood from my last conversation with the customer support department, my shipment had not left Dell shipping.
Regardless of all my efforts to explain my situation, the person I was speaking to could not understand or comprehend my concern and request regarding the unavailability of someone to receive the shipment at my address. They kept apologizing for the delay and insisted that shipment would be received in 3 to 5 days! Finally after half an hour of trying to explain why they should not send the shipment, I thought I had convinced the person to ship the order one week later than originally promised. Again at the end of our conversation, the person indicated that they would send a survey regarding the transaction and again I received no email from Dell customer service.
?On September 21, while at the airport, I called the customer support number one last time to confirm the arrangement I had made the night before. After explaining my situation, I was shocked when the person I spoke with assured me that the shipment would be received in 3 to 5 days. Frustrated I asked to speak with a manager; however the person kept insisting that they would try to resolve the issue. Respectfully I told the person I did want to speak with them and told them that I had very little time and that I needed to speak with a manager as soon as possible. Not sensing the gravity of the situation they told me that they would put me on hold until the manager was available. Fifteen minutes later, while still on hole I hung-up in anger and disgust.
?Sure enough upon my return home there were three delivery attempts by Fedex from Dell. I called customer support on October 4th and finally spoke with a case manager. After explain my situation ? yet again ? the manager was able to track the shipment as having been returned to Dell. After all the aggravation and frustration I had gone through, without hesitation the case manager refunded my purchase price and indicated that the full amount would be credited to my Visa account.
?On October 12th I called customer support ? reluctantly - to enquire about the processing time for my refund. This time the person I spoke with discovered that only a portion of the purchase price had been refunded, which I received the next day. He indicated that he would have to request another credit for the balance of the amount which would be made in two payments. As of today (October 26), I am still awaiting for the final balance to be credited to my account.
This is Dell Customer service.
And, no surpirse, my FAX to the head of US Consumer Business (Michael George) was ignored.
They've lost a customer who has been buying Dell for over 19 years! And they don't seem to care.
PS - I went to Buy.com, bought a new monitor and had it delivered and installed in under 24 hours from the time of order! Look out Dell!
What has happened to customer service??? Best advice-NEVER BUY A DELL PRODUCT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
I have never seen such irresponsible customer service in my whole life. And waiting 6+ hours to talk to some idiot in India with no authority or computer knowledge just makes it worse.
Dell doesn't care about its customers. They just think you should buy their machine because they are large or it is cheap -they clearly don't care if you are a satisfied customer.
The third computer died before one year was out. It was not a hardward problem but software. After a year of paying a lease for this computer and trying at different times of the day to get through to Dell I experienced the following:
1. Waiting on the phone from two to five hours to only be disconnected.
2. Waiting again for long periods of time, getting through to India and the person's accent so thick I couldn't understand a thing that was being said. When requested to be transferred to a person who understood better English I was either disconnected or transferred and waiting again and then disconnected or transferred and this person still had a thick accent and couldn't be understood.
3. Whenever I got a person I kept advising it was not a hardware problem but a software problem. I couldn't even reboot because the XP operating system would not accept the key of the software they sent me because I was forwarded the wrong software. They didn't respond to this, all I heard were pages turning and told to open up the CPU and pull this out and push it back it, etc. and then disconnecting me.
I only got action when I stopped paying the lease and it was amazing that these people were located in North America. They refused to listen to my problems and do anything about it. One of their own people set up a three way conference call and was told to in a roundabout way to "go to hell". Never heard from her again either.
I sincerely hope Dell takes me to court, I want to make this a real media event. I paid extra for next day service which I never did receive. I faithfully paid this lease for an entire year after it crashed trying to get through and get a service tech to my home with no luck. It took one missed payment to get a response or I should say, "no response".
I am in the legal field and I have already made it well known to all about the type of service they can expect from Dell. Two smaller law firms backed right off and I have also informed all my friends about this problem with Dell's service once they get your signature on the bottom line and they have lost there as well. I will never buy another Dell or recommend Dell.
To make it short, I sent a laptop for repair, they send it to a wrong address, so they sent me a replacement.
But, the full story is:
It took a month, a few emails and maybe 20 hours in the phone (My technique: I just push the "speaker" button and forget about it until I hear a human voice) to them to figure it out . And I had to explain the problem to each representative I got in the phone!!, and they were a lot of them: from Tech service, to customer service, to warraty service... finally someone figure what the problem was (my invoice and shipping address are in different cities, they sent it to the correct address in the wrong city... even when they picked it up in the right place the first time). I was ok with the delay in the begging, you know, it were close to christmas, I new they had probably more work than usual and the laptop user had a backup PC to work in. I was ok with their accents, since english is not my first language (as you probably already noticed for my spell and grammar) I didn't mind to ask "can you repeat that again?" a few times. But today I finally received my laptop, So I removed the HD that came with the machine and plugged the old HD on it (which they ask you to keep when you send laptops for repair)....BLUE SCREEN; I will save you the tech details but, stupidly I called tech support again. I got a representative in less than 10 minutes, he told me I had to send back the new or the old HD (and I will but, why do they send it in the first place?, oh, I got it, because my old one will not work in the new equipment! why they are not compatibles? they just change a D600 for a D610!) and after working with him for another 10 or 15 minutes he put me on hold to talk with his supervisor, he came back to tell me that before he can help me I had to talk with customer support because the laptop was reported as lost, "oh, they are confused again", I thought, "its cool, no problem I will clarify with them", then the tech person reviewed my info.....they still had the wrong address in their system!. At this point I was really curious about what the customer service had to said, and I really wanted to tell a few words to them. So he transfer my call, which of course was never answered. The tech support representative had some problems to find the extension number, but finally he did... "you will hear two beeps, please wait", "don't worry" I said, "I am used to it".
I don't know if I am more upset over my "throw-away" printer or the two hours spent with non-English speakers who constantly interrupted me and spoke while I was speaking. It is amazing enough that Dell would hire people who did not understand nor speak English, but they were rude
as well!
Unfortunately, I am told that customer service is not any better with other companies, and I do like Dell products....except, of course, when one tiny missing part renders them worthless except for the landfill.
Ken Marion
1. Hold times (as long as 8 hours!!!)
2. Transfers (as many as 8 in one 4 hour call)
3. Wrong product shipped
4. Defective product shipped
5. Orders lost or not shipped with no notification
6. Voice over IP (what did you say? that's if their English is good)
7. Next Day Business Service (a week later!)
8. Next Day Business Service (everyday for 3 days)
A different tech showed up each day to fix one thing.
9. 10 or more calls over a 2 week period for 1 single issue.
10. Customer Service refers you to the wrong department.
11. Technical support knows less than I do. (Although I am Microsoft Certified Network Engineer)
12. Refuse a shipped order and wait 35 days for the credit to go back onto your credit card.
As I compile this list I have been on the phone with Dell's various departments trying to find out about an order that was placed a week ago for 2nd day delivery that is still showing "Order Processing" when I log into the website.
I have been on hold listening to Dell's wonderful music for 1 hour and 5 minutes, I am going to hang-up again for the 4th time since I started my calls at 9am and it is now 1:30pm.
Go Dell Go!!!
The equipment is good but the company is terrible.
Reality - more expensive than Dell.
You choose!
Novemeber. They have been running me in circles. Since I will be
taking my case through litigation, I am unable to go into details at
this time. Please, if anyone is considering a DELL product, consider
the list of complaints listed above.
Contacting Dell support we found that Dell support was in India.
Nothing against these good people but most are hard to understand and we spend hours on the phone but the tech's was unable to fix what ever was wrong with the computer.
From 12/25/05 to 1/28/06 we have a pile of e mails from tech support with no answers as to how to fix this "Lemon".
Phone calls to dell support have been awful after being on hold ten to fifteen mintues the call is droped and the tech dose not call back even thought he/she has the numbner to call us back.
I finally got in touch with the person that sold us the computer over the phone after telling him the problem with the computer he put me on hold I waited for him to return on the line but after fiftteen mintues the call was droped he never called me back.
It appears to me when Dell tech's don't want to deal with you this is how they handle your call put you on hold then the call is disconected after you wait a long while.
We have spent many hours on the phone with Dell support to no avail they can not fix the problems this computer even afte re floor matting the computer.
This will be for certain our last Dell product we bought in the U.S.A. and expect service in the U.S.A.
If your considering a Dell product it would be wise to read these comsumer complaints we wish we had done our home work first.
Now we have the mess of boxing this computer up and shipping it to Dell and so nice of Dell we pay for the return of the peice of junk they sold us.
I have mailed to our attorney genearl office a formal complaint against Dell Inc.
J.Stepp
Oregon
Dell support did this test then that and another one did this then that and nothing was solved.
I told Dell support I was shipping it back they said hold on let's try this so we did.
This went on for the full 21 days the computer froze up over and over and I.E. crashed
Dell support has us do a re -floor mat still same old problem told Dell support I'm shipping it back to Dell.
Tech says "sorry" it is past the 21 day's to late to send it back.
I have all the e mails on our first complaint 3 days after it was made so don't belive Dell will get away with any of this.
I'm very disappointed in Dell and would never buy any Dell product again and I do spread the word far and wide "Dell Is A Nightmare".
J.Stepp
Very hard to understand some of these people and while I'm trying to say something the tech butts in time again.
I have been on hold 10-15 mintues and the call is drop Dell dose not make any attemp to call me back.
I belive this is their way of avoiding you hopeing that you will just go away.
I worked with Dell support daily nothing they did corrected the problems with my new XPS 400 comuter
so it came to the point I knew this XPS 400 was simply a "Lemom" asking for directions on how to return it to Dell Inc I was told sorry but it is past your 21 days for a return.
I explained yes but for 3 weeks Dell support has been having us do this then that and I frist compained 3 days after I got the computer.
Dell support said sorry nothing I can do for you your out side the 21 day's allowed for a return.
Well come hell or high water Dell is going to eat this lemom.
I tell everyone far and wide about the shady business of DellInc warning them to beware if they buy a Dell product they have a nighmare on their hands if any thing goes wrong.
I would never buy any Dell product what so ever they have put me and my husband through hell the past 30 days.
J.Stepp
It is clear to me Dell Inc don't care about their customers.
My XPS 400 to me was not cheap at $1,000 it has not worked rght from day one.
Hours on the phone with tech support in India and many e mails to Dell support has fixed nothing.
It is a total nightmare beware if you think you want a Dell computer just know we have lived most all of these compalints so we know first hand these people are right beware of very "Shady" business by Dell Inc.
J.Stepp
I've purchased computers from them in the past with no noticeably better product, (and sometimes not so great) than I've purchased elsewhere (and I'm not typing this note on what would probably be the 15th or so computer I've owned.
The computers I DID buy from Dell each had flaws with them, fortunately knowing computers very well, I just handled the problems on my own (one was an LED incorrectly connected, thus not showing disk activity, and the other was a totally messed up software mess because they'd installed a second drive, and somehow messed up references to c: and d:).
The times I HAVE called Dell have been un-memorable.
All this said, I can think of reasons to avoid Dell like the plague now (and Dell isn't the only company for similar reasons) -- their continued insistance to outsource jobs. As a 21-year career professional laid off from my tech job, it is more than an annoyance to hear of massive shifts of jobs to other countries.
I just read an article stating Dell is adding 5,000 MORE jobs in India, bringing the eventual total to 15,000. Consider that Dell has 30,000 employees, and 5,000 more added in India would bring Dell's balance to 15,000 employees in India out of 35,000 employees!! Not bad for an "American" company, huh?
Bother!
Try and Hp or Lennovo. All the components come out of the same factories and suppliers based all over the world. So chances are you will get the same defect! So don't blame Dell. For some bizzare reasons customers who hate Dell seem to come back and buy more...I wonder why???
No one is forcing you to buy a Dell!
Outsorcing increases profitability for the parent company. So that means for $$ for the US economy. Why are people like you getting hit?
Thats business for you. All about profitability!
The result - pcs that are lower in price that more people can afford! If you ran a business and found a way of cutting costs, you'd consider it wouldn't you?
It is very easy to point fingers and blame Dell for everthing wrong that is in the world today. Is your own business blemish free? Blame India, Blame China. Why?
The truth - we have skilled labour who are willing to work hard. So what? Yes improvements can be made.
Let's face it you would be buying a Dell if sales and post support functions were based out of the US entirely. You wouldn't be able to afford one!Almost every product you see in the market is manufactured in China! Aren't Hp, IBM and the other Tier1 vendors doing the same to cut costs?? Dont' they also have not so great customer service?
Outsourcing is a global trend. Was the service picture perfect when operations were based out of the US? I dont' think so. Having studied and lived in the US, I know how things work in the States too.
Lets face it. No one is perfect. Everyone can improve. Take a look at your business first. Make a difference instead of pointing the finger!
Thought I'd reply at least in context of my post...
You mention "Blame India?, blame China?...". I don't. And, I didn't in my comment. I do, however blame Dell. They present themselves as an "American as Apple Pie" kind of company, and after their latest additions to their India workforce, nearly HALF of their employees will be in India! (And that doesn't factor in the other countries.)
As for the truth -- you have skilled labor willing to work hard. That's nice, but so do we. I think after 21 years with a company, garnering technical achievement awards for my work... I'd shown willingness to work AND skill.
As for the added expense... of not outsourcing, I disagree with the argument that things would be unaffordable... it's simply not true. Things would be more expensive, they wouldn't be unaffordable! When it becomes about making every last penny one can squeeze out the marketplace and not about more holistic motives, I rail.
And yes, other companies are doing the same thing Dell is (as I indicated in my post). It becomes easily the "everyone else is doing it so we have to too" argument, pretty lame coming from "technical" companies. And you are correct, the quality of service from this move is horrendous (I could spend a day relating my experiences around some support calls I've been on... (and yes, I have them all documented)).
No one is perfect, exactly. But human behavior is a continuum. On one end is almost saintliness, the other evil. Some of the decision making and actions by companies today are a little closer to the evil end than they were before.
- Stay away from Dell
- by afrector January 31, 2006 6:52 PM PST
- In October I had to purchase a new printer from Dell after the one that came with my Dell PC broke a tiny part due to being made of cheap materials. So I purchased a 926. After three months of very little use it began to give me a message:"right cartridge is inserted incorrectly"! Well Dell was the place it was inserted and it hadn't been out so where was this coming from? The tech on-line told me to take out the cartridge and wipe it off and the message would go away. It didn't. He sent me a new cartridge for which I wasn't to be charged and that didn't work. And I was charged for the cartridge! Then I reported the failure again and they sent me a new printer. When I took this one OUT OF THE BOX! and HOOKED IT UP! it gave me the same message as the other one:"right cartridge...." and it hadn't been used. And it didn't come with new cartridges!!! What a scam. What a rip off. What a thievery. What JUNK! The next tech I talked to on-line told me that the second was was a rebuilt one. Heck, I purchased and new one, why was Dell sending a used one? This company is crap. Michael Dell is an arrogant thief. Don't go through these nightmares. Go to Best Buy or Office Depot or to everyone's enemy, WalMart, but don't buy from Dell. Let Michael go broke.
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