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Apple CEO Steve Jobs announces several new iPods, Wi-Fi connectivity and a dramatic price drop on the iPhone.
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year sometime, yet the ipod part was what i was wanting
I'm sure AT&T will offer cash-back on iPhones already purchased...right?
I assume that when they get around to adding some more "enterprise friendly" features (activesync anyone?), that it'll be a new higher priced model.
[http://Sorry...Great Ipod News, but the price drop in the iPhone sort of trumped it for me|http://Sorry...Great Ipod News, but the price drop in the iPhone sort of trumped it for me]
insulting to those of us who bought them when it first came out. I
just bought an IMac and now i'm thinking about returning it and
have a bad taste in my mouth with Apple. Bad Apple! You just lost
a recent convert. So sad.
I was watching the store today, and you could buy a now iPod Classic for the regular price, checkout and everything and now its 100 bucks cheaper.
Its the same with anythng you buy now.. cars, food, cloths... sale one day, price cut another.. welcome to America!
iMac purchase?
I believe that the iPod touch helps Apple reduce the cost of the
iPhone, enough that they can reduce the price and maintain
reasonable profit margin on the iPhone.
I think folks like you put Apple in a no-win scenario. If Apple
didn't drop the price, folks would continue to complain. When
Apple does drop the price, folks continue to complain.
Do you also stop going to your grocery store because the steak
you bought last month is now cheaper? Its silly reasoning.
and 8 gigs in pictures, So I would fill up the new ipod the day I
bought it.
I will wait until a 40 gig or larger model is out before I buy one.
The immediate price cuts on the existing iPhone models do smart though. Early adopters got screwed there. :/
Anyways, I won't be waiting in any lines, but I will likely buy one of the 4gb iTouch models. I don't have any need for music on it or video either, but the rest is good.
I think it's fitting justice to all of those Apple fanbois who paid their Steve Jobs tithe. Like lemmings off a cliff... Enjoy the satisfaction of being the first with a phone that doesn't do anything more than any other phone (in fact in a lot of ways less) aside from having a pretty face. (oh and you might want to check your voice mail now since you have no indicator on the phone that you have anything waiting... I'm sure there are a ton of third parties out there that will remedy this shortfall with a web app in Safari! Ha!)
Goooooooo Steve! :)
Apple is expected to sell their 1 millionth iPhone by Sep 30.
If your statement was accurate, they'll need to sell more than
600,000 iPhones in 25 days. OR they've sold a lot more than
500,000 phones and the price drop will push them well beyond
the 1 million mark in 25 days.
Apple's plan is to sell millions of iPhones this Christmas season.
Everyone complained about the price being too high -- Apple
agreed, and yet you still complain.
The iPod touch is not a replacement for the iPhone. It doesn't
have speaker/mic needed for TALKING. Instead, it is exactly
what people asked of Apple: please give us in iPod with iPhone
interface, but without the phone. And again, Apple listened.
Shame on Apple for listening to and providing what its
customers asked for.
soon is an insult. I'm canceling my contract and returning the imac
I just bought and yes, I'm done with apple.
sucker. Nice feeling. Bye apple
What??!!
THE NEW IPOD ISN'T AVAILABLE IN WHITE!!!!!
*collapses*
Will any consumers buy an iPhone and an iPod?
Without the price cut, I think this would have done in the iPhone.
Kinda' strange.
;-)
Maybe you should get a 30GB Zune for only $200.
Even conservative companies are considering daily YouTube manager to investor pep talks, video employee handbooks, and re playable staff meetings. *barf*
For the next few years the challenge will be separating video idea fad vs video idea gold.
Everyone knows Apple has the ability TODAY to include an 80GB or 160GB micro hard disk drive in the iPod Touch. Increased storage capacity that is critically required for storing the type of multi-media information (videos, photos, and, of course, thousands of audio files) for which the gorgeous 3.5? video screen on the iPod Touch seems so perfectly suited. But, instead, Apple chose to offer two models of the iPod Touch with only a paltry 8GB or 16GB of flash memory instead. Big mistake. Many current iPod owners have 10 GB or even 20 GB of music files today. Why would anyone purchase a new iPod Touch with the ability to store and display videos and photos in addition to playing audio files when it has LESS memory than their current 2-3 year-old iPod? Doesn?t make sense.
I understand WHY Apple chose this strategy. Apple obviously didn?t want to cannibalize sales of its new iPhone, which is nearly identical in appearance and features to the iPod Touch with the addition of cell phone functionality. They wanted the iPhone to be the step-up purchase decision over an iPod Touch ? for an additional $100 you get an iPod Touch PLUS a cell phone and wireless internet capabilities. The iPhone only comes with 4 GB or 8 GB of flash memory for good reason. Cell phones get dropped, tossed on tables, and abused daily. ?You can?t put a hard drive in a cell phone!? Apple engineers no doubt exclaimed! So, they went with much more rugged, reliable and smaller capacity NAND flash memory for the iPhone. In addition to the step-up marketing strategy angle, using flash memory instead of micro hard disks also increased the battery life of both the iPhone and the iPod Touch. For the iPhone, battery life (talk time) is critical. But I could easily live with 16, 12 or even 10 hours audio playback time on an iPod Touch with an 80 GB or 160 GB micro hard disk instead of 22 hours for an iPod Touch with 8 or 16 GB of flash memory.
Finally, Apple drops the price of the iPhone by $200 just two months after it?s first offered for sale! Great for enticing new customers, but anyone who just bought an iPhone has got to be royally upset. I?m guessing AT&T customers will try taking advantage of their 30-day exchange policies and exchanging their ?expensive? iPhone for ?new? $200-cheaper iPhone. And what does this do for the profit model for iPhone sales? Seems like sales would have to at least double or triple just to maintain the same income flow into Apple corporate coffers. Fixed fabrication costs could not have dropped by $200 in just a couple months. Oh - and why not offer a 16GB iPhone? Or 3G capability?
Apple will, without a doubt, offer much higher-capacity iPod Touch devices within a year ? possibly sooner ? at about the same price as today?s models. And everyone knows it. I think many people will wait for that inevitable second-generation iPod Touch with much greater storage capacity. I know I will.
If they could just drop in a HD, don't you think they would?
The instant-response touch GUI that everyone loves depends on very fast storage. If you take away the fast storage, I don't think it will work. It would stall and pause and feel disconnected from the user's fingers. People would hate it. IMHO.
Perhaps b/c their 2-3 year old ipod doesn't have wifi and can't go online to access Google, Yahoo, stock quotes, and other such portals to information. It's not like it's a complete downgrade. Moreso a sidegrade.
I suppose Apple could make an Ipod Supreme with the storage of the new 160GB classic ipod + iphone capabilities of internet, phone and other wondrous stuff, but I'm sure as well they most certainly have their reasons for NOT doing so. My takes......
1) if they made a supreme device such as that, they wouldn't outpace their product line. You've already introduced the cream of the crop. Where are you going to go 3 years down the line? Unlike how say... desktop/laptop computers get innovations, handheld devices like mp3 players don't work that like.
2) They need to cater to the lowest common denominator. If a theoretical "Ipod Supreme" were to come out at say $800, would u buy it? Would anyone else? That would turn a mainstream device into something only for a niche market. Despite the higher price, ppl do spring for an 80GB ipod video
Also. I thought the iphone used flash b/c of the other cellphone components that needed to be crammed into such a small space. Not b/c of how fragile microdrives are. I toss my phone around, but that's b/c it's a Motorola v188 i got for free and about to replace anyways. If it were more pricier, like >$100, and more fragile, like it was a camera phone with lenses and digicam components, I'd def be more careful with it, and i'm s\ure so would every1 else.
... at taking as much money as they can from their customes and then flipping them the bird.
They care about their customers a lot... and a lot more about their wallets.
$200 price drop. Discontinuing the 4Gb iPhone only two months into sales life. Wow.
But I got to hand it to them, the sheep went willingly to be fleeced.
logically included. It's the only glaring thing missing from this
absolutely fabulous device.
Good Job Apple! I don't care what all the whiners say, you guys
are kicking serious butt! The new products are great and I am so
thankful I bought aapl at $22.50.
http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?
symb=AAPL&time=3yr
Does this look like a company that is in trouble?
I love reading all of the experts telling us all what Apple is doing
wrong and how their products don't stack up.
They own 75% of the MP3 market and the highest customer
satisfaction rating among MP3 players in the market.
Their computers AND software really kick butt and have been
gaining market share in a big way. Apple has the highest
customer satisfaction rating in computers.
The iPhone has had the fastest selling debut ever for a cell
phone and even though it is their fist generation, the iPhone has
the highest customer satisfaction rating among cell phones.
The experts will agree that Apple can do nothing right and
almost everybody here is whining and complaining about Apple,
but the proof is in the pudding and I will continue to laugh all
the way to the bank and be happy that Apple stock has more
than paid for all the Apple products I have purchased over the
years and then some.
Go Apple and all praise his worshipness and Apple savior Steve
Jobs!
Look at their reputation, their stock price, and consumer confidence today.
I really hope Apple takes a hint from Sony and learns that screwing their customers over is not the way to keep consumer confidence... or their repeat business.
Yer correct on Apple and they do make money.
..." but the proof is in the pudding...."
That is NOT correct.
The proof is EATING the pudding!
Congratz for buying Apple stocks at $22.50
I was dumping it and expecting them to go under. That's when MICROSOFT dumped 300 million in Apple stock so they can have a competition.
That Bill Gates is a smart cookie.
- iPod Pricing is always king
- by Andreas Graham September 6, 2007 7:49 AM PDT
- I think that the drop in the price of the iPhone is absolutely logical. First, the iPod is a critical part of the Apple business model. The top of the line iPod has pretty consistently been sub $400. So if the new 8gig iPod touch is $300 then it is going to be a pretty tall order to ask people to pay an extra $300 for phone and email, on top of a service agreement. It seems that the iPod is driving the pricing of the iPhone not overall sales.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (66 Comments)On a separate note, I do feel that there is no real compelling reason to upgrade for us 5g iPod users. the iPod classic is really just a cosmetic improvement and the touch, though beautiful, has too little capacity. I am going to stay with mine until we see a 60gig touch (or go the iPhone route once it gets 3G capability).